relations and that's the difference. >> that takes away our government spending. >> but listen, there are consequences to every decision that we make and legislators and governors and law makers make. at what point do you law the land in the sand. it will not change in the future. >> you are asking me. you have a budget that is falling in the fastest rate. you have a sequester and the republicans have cut and cut and cut. you can't say that obama hasn't met them partially in the issue. and look at countries that followed the complete madness and look at europe for example. you are seeing double deep recession. i am a believer in economics and look at the history of the united states government and finances, you know that you can't cut our way to prosperity. >> i will bring brad in here for