about african-american women at rutgers. >> why did fox news fire glenn beck but not bill o'reilly? >> first of all, fox news didn't fire glenn beck. glenn beck left when his contract expired. i don't think either side necessarily wanted to continue just to be clear on that. but the reason we're bringing up martin bashir again, not that i like to talk about him every week. msnbc made clear they're not going to do anything, but because alec baldwin said hey, how come i'm getting the boot and not this guy? >> we don't know what phil dwrif fin is thinking, why that happened, maybe other things behind the scenes that i don't know about. what i do want to raise that may be controversial is he at least apologized. i think in our society and culture, people are very willing to throw bombs at other people, and no one is willing to say, hey, you know what, i went too far, i'm sorry. i'm not condoning what he's saying pip just think lar l.a. ra logan said she was soroye. in a personal relationship, when