>> it is wrong to say in my opinion that these are fake bombs. there is a question as to whether or not the bombs were designed to detonate. or to intimidate. the question is the motivation. >> laura: danny? >> that's laughable. i commanded the oklahoma city bombing investigation. i was the victim of an ied. this guy had no intention of these things going off. this looks like a movie prop. then what is the purpose? i tend to believe that the purpose is not to hurt anybody. these things are not capable of injurying people. that's verified the technician that examined them.