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physical force to subdue neely. it will resolve around that and reminds me of a case i did back in 1985, the subway vigilante person bernard getz. he shot black young men. he was acquitted of all those assault charges and convicted only of the illegal gun. so i think that were i to bet right now, i would say this will be considered self-defense. that will be a justifiable homicide and there won't be a reckless homicide case. >> bill: getz went to jail for eight months because of the gun charge. >> not on the assault but on the gun. >> let's scan the gamut from the left to the right. "new york times" on the right support and donations pour in for daniel penny. it could go to 3 million or more. conservatives hail daniel perry