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and they put her out just filling in. why not put her out actually doing the job? i have some thoughts on that because we don't really have a resume that showed that she had done the job. perhaps it would be too if he. >> kara: that would be better i you. mala is filling in for joe. gavin newsom committed to a debate last night with ron desantis hearing some feelings on 2024 speculation. watch this. >> i want to start a series of debates and get some of the b best, brightest leading conservative minds and some of the best, brightest left-wing bias or liberal minded. i put you in that category hunger and want to call it like the great debate. in the first one i want to do i with you and governor desantis. >> great bug i offered each bug i have been trying to debate hi for years. i'm all in. >> you would do it to our debat