to leverage big projects. >>neil: is the requirement those who want to tap this could get resources, do they have to have union workers? >>guest: the issue is this is a bank. it is an independent entity. >>neil: is the requirement there? that your workforce be unionized? >>guest: i will answer that question in a second but this is about institutional investors which are, pension funds, and, yes, that includes union pension funds. beauty of this concept and the for structure bank, we have the support of unions and the support of the u.s. chamber. >>neil: some of the funds and others, i could not imagine they would enjoy or welcome a stipulation that says anyone you