unchanging, underlying relations, which means it's a code for if the u.s. does not make real advances in missile defense now, we reject that interpretation, at least ostensibly and in public. so the question is has the state department been negotiating understandings with the russians that would asswage their questions about our advances in missile defense? ie, are we conceding through the state department and these other negotiations stuff which we say we are not conceding in our interpretation of that treaty? that's why kyl and other republicans want to look at what's been negotiated by the state department. >> bret: yeah and five other senators are asking in a letter sent couple weeks ago for all of the negotiations and documents sent back and forth because they want to know if there was this duel track start treaty and defense going on. >> it seems to put more meat on the republican argument for delaying this and having the