city. that's what peter has done. he would never say study the radicalization, for example of italian americans and tell us italian americans turn into mafia. it's a terrible stereotype. >> mark: just bring michael up to speed on the difference between being the italian and being muslim, judith. >> i think the problem is, michael when they start blowing us up in our cars, in our houses, in our planes, we will begin to worry about them, too. >> and christians haven't done. >> that peter king's hearings are probably long overdue. we have been aware of this homegrown problem. it's much more severe, it's true mark in london and in england it appears to be here. the reason we don't know about this plot is the british haven't said anything. the reason they haven't said anything is that if you recall, in 2009, the top british cop walked into a meeting but not before someone from the daily mail or a british newspaper