adult entertainment star, there was a certain, oh, my god, i can't believe they do that. but now it seems as if it's a lot more mainstream and it's a lot more acceptable. the demystification of porn, has that in any way, shape or form distribute kricontributed to th industry's demise? i don't know that -- no. i would say it has not. a talent agent i interviewed once liked to say that women used to fall into porn. now they aspire to be porn stars. and that's certainly responsible for the huge number of women who have no problem making movies or celebrities, for example, that are willing to sell a sex tape. that certainly wouldn't have been true 30 years ago. that reduces the amount of money each woman. but i don't think it's responsible for the industry's decline as a whole. if anything, that helps the industry. >> aurora, 10, 15 years from