>> well, it's very clear russia supplied the type of missiles that were responsible for bringing down this civilian airline. it's also true that russia's providing technical support and russia has violated ukraine's territorial integrity, not just in crimea but in ukraine. they need to be responsible for that and the sanctions need to be stronger. if there's evidence they were directly involved in bringing down a civilian airline, then they're a state that supports terrorism and then a much stronger international response will be needed. >> the repercussions against russia, does that mean stronger from the united states standpoint or stronger from the international, specifically european community, to go hand-in-hand with the stepped-up sanctioned that the president announced? >> think the united states is certainly prepared to step up the sanctions but they're more effective when we have, particularly europe, with us. the president is working hard to make sure there's unity in