dirty linen of that police department and the public will be brought out. they have a debtors' prison in ferguson because if you can't pay those unfair fines for being stopped, you end up going to jail when they stop you and you have warrants out for your arrest. that's debtors' prison. >> we all know the actions of the governor of missouri throughout this entire ordeal. do you think, congressman, he'll be cooperative at this point and be progressive and move forward for change? >> i think the governor will. i think he may have made some missteps early on but i believe that this report -- he's a former attorney general for the state. when this report crosses his desk, i think he's going to realize he's going to have to use the power of his office. i think jay nixon will do that. >> dr. dyson, what do the people do with these numbers? with this report? >> i think jay nixon displays