know until they can excavate the pipeline that broke on land and there are rules about that. it has to be done under the soup vision of federal authorities for obvious reasons so it will take time. we know they were having issues with their pumps on tuesday morn g morning but they don't know and we can't tell whether that's cause or effect or unrelated. so indeed it could be weeks if not months before we know what caused the break. >> and just the devastating affect this is having on the wildlife. i'm thinking about the bird, i'm thinking about fish, the whales pass through, octopus. tell me about the effect on that. >> well you won't know for some time and that's what they're trying to get around. they have some 300 volunteer, more than that a lot are working on the wildlife issue. that's one of the things they