if donald rumsfeld wants to get in the game, that might be as bad. so they're all going to have to react to their last failed presidency, which i think is appropriate. but often doesn't happen. if you have eight years in between, you're not going all the way back. >> let's talk for a minute about what an intellectually honest conservative position might be. we made a mistake, but we think obama made a mistake, too. i don't happen to think this. there is a conservative argument that would be credible which doesn't have this b.s. on either side. >> while you react to that the idea that this is about admitting mistakes and refocusing the spotlight on what this administration has done or not done in terms of the middle east. >> here's the problem. the original mistake is a mistake they keep making. dick cheney and his crowd misread that region.