it also creates other things called pahs which are compounds known to change or mutate dna which can theoretically increase your risk of cancer. >> does this mean we have to stop eating red meat all together? that 71 pounds figure is red meat, not processed red meat. is this a moderation tip? >> yeah. there's two different proclamations coming out. one is for processed. they gave that the worst designation and the other was red meat which they softened and said probably cause. probably cause doesn't mean it definitely does cause. it means that we know there might be some things in red meat that when cooked, for example, here we will talk about preparing the food, preparing the red meat, a lot of the risk is associated with how it is prepared. that is, do you grill at very high temperatures for too long of a period of time, do you eat the charred portions of the meat. this is not new stuff. >> yes. of course. it's good. >> but the association there for