outlitigate someone. to run the clock out, to find that new angle. absolutely. 100%, you're right. >> flipside of that, given this has been a very long running financial fraud investigation in terms of why it's taking so long, do you at all worry, jennifer, that evidence they have uncovered has yet to produce a clear-cut smoking gun? we know they've got to be given the magnitude of this particular case dotting every i and crossing every t. but have they found what they needed? >> i don't really know the answer to that. but i do have faith that they're running a just investigation. if they're talking about charges to come this summer, i do believe that the d.a. is in a good position and that i think that allen should maybe start to consider what he wants his legacy to be.