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say they didn't understand who they take orders from, during a worst-case scenario. obviously, 33 years in the u.s. armed forces as a general, you do a lot of planning. a lot of worst-case scenario planning. it's sort of the job. it strikes me that that's kind of what you're talking about here, but with worst-case scenario planning for, something catastrophic internal. >> indeed, few months before the last election. we had something called the transition integrity. we had four scenarios. this was developed by brooks and her team, when we did not consider, was the military, having a problem within each of those scenarios. what we are asking for, is to read team this. what we are asking for, is to have that burst of imagination. what can happen, and what do we do about it? that's the war game component that i think we need to see the nations do.