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it was 77 minutes, zack, and the fact is not only there was no effective scene commander, there was no apparent commander at all taking charge. and had these conversations happened five minutes in but these conversations went throughout those 77 minutes. >> what we learned from again these dispatches between police and their dispatchers is evidence builds and builds throughout these 77 minute response, accurate information is coming in that police could have acted on that they could have learned and should have known that there were students in the classroom with the gunman. there are several key pieces of information that's miscommunicated. early on a dispatcher said the school police chief arredondo