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keep to 18. that is his problem. so he will misrepresent my record, he will misrepresent eric swalwell or elon omar, whatever he needs to do to get the votes of the qanon caucus within this conference. >> whatever he needs to do. joining me now to discuss, senior editor for insider, katie tubman. an msnbc contributor david rogue. he's the executive editor for news at the new yorker. it's good to see you both. katie, you just heard adam schiff criticize mccarthy for not having his own ideology. no set of core beliefs. i wonder, and as much as if that's a critique from -- if republicans are likewise skeptical about mccarthy for the same reasons? >> absolutely, alicia. i think we are thinking about two years of mccarthy basically throwing himself behind trump and a lot of the questions being, well, what does he stand for? we heard criticisms from other folks in his party saying that he would sell out his own mother for his own ambitions. so this can only not be coming

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