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world? >> i think it cooperate when i said, from august 31 tweet. look at what happened to, what is her name? christina wrap. he threw her under the bus. they turned around, this had people signed an affidavit, they lied to her, she relied upon their statement, she is in trouble, they are not, maybe they will be. at the end of the day, you cannot trust a word that comes out of donald trump's mouth. it's like what everybody always said. how do you know he is lying? his lips are moving. he will not tell you the truth. then he will ask you to attest to it under the penalties of perjury. that is what congress should do. they should make him sign a document attesting under the penalties of perjury that he is no longer in possession of any documents. that belonged janeiro. >> i have one more question, every time we speak, this always comes to mind. you said he would not run again in 2024. is there a distinction in your mind between announcing and actually running, and how do