way, hire them directly, whether it is a chicken processing plant or a construction company. >> so what do you call the people who hire the illegal employers? what do you call the people who hire the illegal imployers? . >> the hiring of illegal em employers? >> yes, if i hire a contractor and that contractor is an illegal contractor. >> you tell me. >> what they're calling you is a hypocrite. >> you tell me. >> what they're calling you is a hypocrite if yaw do that. what i'm agreeing to is you absolutely didn't commit a crime if you did that. i'm agreeing to that. but when you take to the pulpit and preach what you've preached, you've got to understand why people think this is a hypocrite call outcome, that isabel would be able to find -- >> a hypocrite call outcome.