MINISTRY, PANTERA — all these bands were heavy, a lot of 'em were industrial, and they were just trying to figure out how to be relevant again. Which kind of led to a little bit of my demise, because I was just, like, 'This is fucking bullshit. Just do what you do. You're MÖTLEY.' And I've done the same thing. Even after I got out of MÖTLEY and I was in RATT, then I decided I was gonna do a solo record, I would record a few songs and I would do 'em and I'd go, 'Man, I've gotta be relevant. I've gotta be relevant.' So everybody gets caught up in it. But the bottom line of it is it took a manager, or a friend mine, to just sit there and go, 'You know,