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But we start off with Donald Trumps latest campaign firestorm, shaking up the 2016 race, his new comments about vietnam veteran john mccains war record sparking a bipartisan backlash. Donald trump will join us live momentarily. First, Abcs Cecilia Vega on the new uproar. Reporter donald trump is at it again, unleashing his latest political firestorm on a new target, this time, john mccain. Hes not a war hero. Reporter trump in iowa going directly after the arizona senator and former Navy Fighter Pilot who spent 5 1 2 years as a p. O. W. During the vietnam war. Hes a war hero because he was captured. I like people who werent captured. I hate to tell you that. Reporter and the reaction from fellow republicans fast and fierce, nearly every gop challenger running for the white house firing back. When it comes to attacking an american hero, im going to call it out. I denounce donald trump for that. I was highly offended what donald trump said about john mccain and his years of sacrifice. Reporter democrats pouncing, too. There is nothing funny about the hate he is spewing. The insults hes directed a genuine war hero. Reporter senator mccain so far staying silent. But his daughter meghan took to twitter, saying shes horrified, disgusted. There are no words. This is just the latest controversy for the brash billionaire. Theyre bringing drugs, theyre bringing crime, theyre rapists, and some i assume are good people. Reporter mccain saying recently fired up the crazies that statement igniting this now very public feud. The controversy doesnt seem to be hurting the donald. The latest fox news poll showing trump surging to the front of the pack, and overnight, trump doubling down, saying once again, he will not apologize, saying im not a fan of john mccain because he has done so little for our veterans. And even the Republican National committee lashed out at trump saying, there is no place in our party or country for comments who disparage those who have served honorbly. Thanks very much, cecilia, and lets get straight to donald trump, who joins us right now on the phone for his first interview since those controversial comments. Thanks for joining us, mr. Trump. Good morning. Do you owe john mccain an apology . No, not at all. Actually, if you look at Cheryl Atkinsons report last night, it was absolutely fair. She thought that the press was covering me very, very unfairly and she stated that strongly and i respect her as a reporter. Very importantly, i got a standing ovation, the biggest ovation they had all weekend, by far. When i left the room it was a total standing ovation. It was wonderful to see. Nobody was insulted. What happened is, later on, the republican candidates, some of whom are registering 1 , and zero, and theyre extremely upset im leading the polls, and theyre extremely upset when the nevada numbers came out, too. Theyre threw the roof. Mr. Trump, lets go back to this issue of john mccain and youre talking about the Cheryl Atkinson piece, you said, hes a war hero because he was captured. You said, perhaps he was a war hero. I want to read you a short bio of john mccain, he was shot down in 1967 on his 23rd Bombing Mission over north vietnam, he fractured both arms and a leg when he ejected and nearly drowned when he parachuted into a lake. He was pulled out by north vietnamese who crushed his shoulder, he was beaten, tortured and interrogated. He spent 5 of 1 2 years as a p. O. W. The north vietnamese offered him Early Release for propaganda purposes, he refused until every man taken before him was released. You do not think that this is a war hero, captured or not . I didnt say anything differently, and if you read and if you watch and take a look at what you have, i said nothing differently. Im very disappointed in john mccain, because the vets are horribly treated in this country. Im fighting for the vets. I have done a lot for the vets. I have been going around the campaign trail, theyre treated like third class citizens. Hes done nothing to help the vets. And let me tell you, they are living in hell. Let me tell you this, what the commander, the veterans of foreign war said about your comments, for someone who never served a day in uniform to criticize the service and sacrifice of a combat wounded veteran is despicable. An insult to anyone who has worn the uniform. To all americans, an attack on one veteran service is an attack on us all. They apparently think you were criticizing mr. Mccain in saying that he was not a war hero. Maybe they dont speak to the same vets that i do speak. I go all over the country. I speak to vets, theyre having absolutely miserable times. It takes them six, seven days, just to get in a reception room, just trying to get in to see a doctor. Theyre treating horribly. And Everybody Knows it lets go back to your comments about john mccain its a scandal and john mccain has done nothing to help the veterans. Mr. Trump, i have covered the veteran issues for many many years. Indeed there are big troubles in the Veterans Administration. And by the way, this all started, martha, when we had thousands and thousands of people in phoenix, arizona, and john who, by the way, devastated by illegal immigration, something that im very proud to have brought to the forefront. We have thousands of people, and he said theyre all crazies. He called them crazies. Frankly, i think he owes them an apology. Let me talk about your language about him being captured. You say you prefer those who arent captured. What could john mccain have done not to be captured . Well i did say this. People who fought hard and werent captured and went through a lot, they get no credit, theyre forgotten. People that were not captured, that went in and fought, nobody talks about them. Those are heroes also. I think people do talk about those people, as well. But what i dont think so. But what did you mean, you prefer those who arent captured . I want to give them credit, they dont get the credit. John mccain gets credit, he was elected a senator, et cetera. Well give him all the credit. In the report it said from cheryl, four times, i said, he is a hero, but, you know, People Choose little selective like you try do. People choose little selective pieces. If you read what i say, or if you watch what i say, youll say that there was nothing wrong. But people who werent captured are also heroes, martha. I want to talk about you and your deferments, how many deferments did you actually get and what were they for . I believe you had student deferments and medical deferment. Like many other people during the war, student deferments. During the war and after the war. I had a minor medical deferment for feet, for a bone spur of the foot, which was minor, i was then entered into the draft, because if i got a different number, i would have been drafted. I was fortunate in a sense because i was not a believer in the vietnam war, that was another war that was a disaster for this country lives and money, its disgraceful with what happened with the vietnam war. I was not a fan of the vietnam war. But i was entered into the draft and i got a very, very high draft number. That wasnt until 1969. Excuse me the lottery wasnt until 1969. You had many deferments before. Excuse me, i was entered into the draft lottery, if i would have gotten a low number. I got a number, i think it was 356, right at the very end. And they didnt get i dont believe pass even 300. I was not chosen because of the fact that i had a very high lottery number. You there seems to be a pattern, mr. Trump, when youre criticized or attacked, you often respond with namecalling with dummy, loser, total closer on twitter and elsewhere. You even demean some peoples physical appearance. Is that something you would continue doing as president . Is that language beneath the office of president . When people attack me, i let them have it back. You say physical appearance, its my hair, but people are constantly attacking my hair. I dont see you coming to my defense. You know, my hair is just fine. But i dont see you coming to my defense. If i Say Something about somebody else, yesterday, i mentioned somebody was saying mccain is a smart man. I said really . He graduated last in his class in annapolis. People laughed when i said it. Im very disappointed. I understand john mccain. I backed his raise. I think a Million Dollars for mccain. He ran for president and lost to obama and let us down. I wasnt thrilled with that. But i will say what i want to say. Maybe thats why im leading in the polls, because people are tired of politicians and pollsters telling the politician exactly what to say. And believe me, this whole thing was brought up by a lot of the people that are competing against me currently that arent even registering in the polls. Because people are tired of them. Have you ever said anything that you regret . Yes, i have, on many occasions. Can you tell us the few of those . No, i wouldnt do that. I wouldnt do that, martha. Its not the appropriate time. Certainly i have said things that i could have held back, but not that often. Surprisingly not that often. Certainly there have been some occasions. Let me get this clear. Youre not apologizing and youre certainly not pulling out of the race as some of your opponents have suggested . Of course, they would love have me to do that because im leading the pack. Im certainly not pulling out. Im leading in many states. North carolina just came in. Im way in the lead there. Nevada, im way in the lead there. Interestingly, in nevada, i lead in hispanics by a tremendous the hispanics im way into the 30s with hispanics. Which i said if i get the nomination if i run for president , i will win the hispanic vote because i will be able to take jobs back from china, jobs back from japan and mexico and everybody else thats ripping us off in trade and Everybody Knows that. I will win the hispanic vote. So, you think this will actually help you this is involving veterans and you heard what i said about those veteran groups, you still think this will help you in the polls . I believe i will do far more for veterans than john mccain has done for veterans. All talk, no action. You look at whats happening in our veterans, theyre being decimated. Okay, so, i will do far more for veterans than anybody. I will be able to build new hospitals, i will be able to build them care centers. I will be able to help the veterans. John mccain has failed. Because all you have to do is take a look at the scandal at the Veterans Administration and the disastrous conditions under which our veterans have to live. And believe me, i built a small group a veteran memorial. In downtown manhattan. I know what it is to help people and i know what it is to help veterans. Thank you very much for joining us, mr. Trump. Lets bring in democratic president ial contender, former senator and vietnam veteran jim webb who like john mccain attended the u. S. Naval academy. Senator webb, what is your reaction . Well you know thats a lot to react to in a quick minute or two. First of all, i believe if donald trump had taken the opportunity to serve our country, he could have volunteered like a lot of people did, he would have had a different feeling the kind of things hes saying. Its one thing to talk about issues, but when youre talking about military service, youre talking about duty, honor and dignity. The comments he made a few weeks ago about america e mexican americans insulted a lot of our veterans. I have some mexican americans that were in my unit and they. Reporter inflamed with these comments. One of them wrote a letter to mr. Trump and said, any time you want, come back and talk to us to military service. Oh, you didnt go. I have known john mccain for a very long time. I have a Great Respect for him. I dont agree with him. You dont have to agree with him to understand the daily courage that it takes and took, when people are prisoners of war, undergoing the uncertainties of whether theyre ever going to come home or not and as you mentioned, how badly injured he was. Just quickly on that, you heard what mr. Trump said, i said he was a war hero because he was captured, was he backing off a little bit . Will that help at all or just make it worse . Well, what he said, theres no excuse for it, and you know he can talk about veteran issues, we all care about veteran issues. And i said, this goes to all veterans when they hear those sort of things, because youre talking about the dignity of service when you say things like that. Theres no way to take away the courage, the daily courage people like john mccain faced in those years of incarceration. Thank you for joining us, senator webb. Well have more with you later. Plus the round table weighs in on trumps future. Now that developing story out of tennessee, new details on that suspect in that terror attack that left five Service Members dead. Investigators are working 24 7 to find out everything they can about mohammad abdulazeez. How did he plan his rampage . Who did he meet on his recent trip to jordan . I recently men those on the thethreat. I talked to numerous young men who supported the jihadist group. Now, officials want to know if the tennessee shooter had any links to isis. Heres senior justice correspondent pierre thomas. Reporter right now, the phones and the computers of abdulazeez are at the fbi lab in quantico, virginia, in an effort to find clues to his motive. He was not under fbi investigation, not under surveillance. The fbi want to know how he was able to operate under the radar. Theyre looking at his travel. Including a sevenmonth travel to jordan last year. Did he secretly go to other countries during that visit . They want to find out if he was using online aliases to view violent propaganda or using incrypted data to contact overseas radicals. Law enforcement is asking, is there more we could have done . Is there more that we should have done . Were people aware that he was traveling to that region . Were there signs that he was exhibiting in the community that were missed . Reporter the fbi is under tremendous pressure with terrorism investigations in all 50 states. Involves hundreds of suspected radicals. Many thought to be isis sympathizers. Just one week before the chattanooga terror attack, the fbi director was sounding the alarm before congress. I cannot see me stopping these indefinitely. Reporter we dont know if abdulazeez has ties to isis, thats the group he fears is an imminent threat specifically because of its unprecedented social Media Campaign targeting smartphones, tablets and computers. It buzzes in their pocket, there is a device, almost a devil on their shoulder all day long saying kill, kill, kill. Reporter a daily sophisticated multiMedia Campaign using all of the advertising tricks. Primary isis focus, directives to kill u. S. Military and its working. In recent months, at least half dozen suspected sympathizers plotting to kill u. S. Soldiers here at home. In march, in illinois, a man was accused of conspiring with his cousin to murder his american soldiers. In april, an ohio man charged after he traveled to syria and was allegedly directed by isis to kill military personnel. Men like abdulazeez in their 20s, the difference is, abdulazeez got through. For this week, pierre thomas, abc news, washington. And joining us now congressman michael mccaul, chair of the Homeland Security committee whos calling the shooting an isisinspired attack. Chairman mccaul, can you tell us the latest they found out about abdulazeez . Well, the fbi is currently doing a forensics examination on his computer, his cell phone and his travels to jordan, which is right across the border from syria, so we have the threat of foreign fighters, but also we have the threat over the internet, which is a new threat thats out there, a new generation of terrorists, you heard the director talked about, these internet directives from a cyber command, if you will out of syria to activate people in the United States to attack. And what they are saying is attack military installations and attack police officers. And what we saw was one of the most deadliest attacks on american soil against our u. S. Marines and an american sailor. This is the case were most worried. We have followed quite a few cases. We have over 60 cases that we have rolled over isis followers over the last year. Thats more than one per week. We have investigations into all 50 states, what keeps us up at night are the ones that we dont know about, and im afraid that this case falls into that category. And to that point, you had a naturalized citizen, numerous trips to jordan which borders syria, as you said. A father who was on the terrorist watch list at one time. Reports of abuse, online writing. Shouldnt alarm bells have sounded . Well, its 20 20 hindsight. I command the fbi and homeland fur stopping so many terror plots in the United States. But we will be examining this case, i know the fbi is investigating, again, his travel, the father was on a watch list, was under an investigation that was closed, and well be looking at all those details, but, you know, this is, again, the new sort of threat thats out there over the internet thats very hard to stop. We have 200,000 isis tweets per day that hit the United States and this is one of those threats that the director talks about, getting so the chatter is so loud and the volume is so high that its a problem thats very hard to stop and disrupt in this country. Its something that we have been warning about over the last year. Unfortunately, we saw it take place in chattanooga. Martha, if it can happen in chattanooga, it can happen anywhere, any time, any place. Thats our biggest fear. Mr. Chairman, you say 20 20 is hindsight. 20 20 hindsight. But, Tamerlan Tsarnaev had a background that should have raised as larms as well. And havent we taken more measures since the boston bombing to stop or track someone like this . Of course. One of the biggest critics of the way that was handled, that particular case, we saw it fall through the cracks. You know, this is one well be conducting oversight and examining what happened, but, again, when were stopping like we did the fourth of july plot that was imminent to blow up military at fourth of july parades, when we stopped at garland. We arrested over 60 isis over the last year, again thats more than one per week, this is a very difficult counterterrorism challenge in the Donald Trumps<\/a> latest campaign firestorm, shaking up the 2016 race, his new comments about vietnam veteran john mccains war record sparking a bipartisan backlash. Donald trump will join us live momentarily. First, Abcs Cecilia Vega<\/a> on the new uproar. Reporter donald trump is at it again, unleashing his latest political firestorm on a new target, this time, john mccain. Hes not a war hero. Reporter trump in iowa going directly after the arizona senator and former Navy Fighter Pilot<\/a> who spent 5 1 2 years as a p. O. W. During the vietnam war. Hes a war hero because he was captured. I like people who werent captured. I hate to tell you that. Reporter and the reaction from fellow republicans fast and fierce, nearly every gop challenger running for the white house firing back. When it comes to attacking an american hero, im going to call it out. I denounce donald trump for that. I was highly offended what donald trump said about john mccain and his years of sacrifice. Reporter democrats pouncing, too. There is nothing funny about the hate he is spewing. The insults hes directed a genuine war hero. Reporter senator mccain so far staying silent. But his daughter meghan took to twitter, saying shes horrified, disgusted. There are no words. This is just the latest controversy for the brash billionaire. Theyre bringing drugs, theyre bringing crime, theyre rapists, and some i assume are good people. Reporter mccain saying recently fired up the crazies that statement igniting this now very public feud. The controversy doesnt seem to be hurting the donald. The latest fox news poll showing trump surging to the front of the pack, and overnight, trump doubling down, saying once again, he will not apologize, saying im not a fan of john mccain because he has done so little for our veterans. And even the Republican National<\/a> committee lashed out at trump saying, there is no place in our party or country for comments who disparage those who have served honorbly. Thanks very much, cecilia, and lets get straight to donald trump, who joins us right now on the phone for his first interview since those controversial comments. Thanks for joining us, mr. Trump. Good morning. Do you owe john mccain an apology . No, not at all. Actually, if you look at Cheryl Atkinsons<\/a> report last night, it was absolutely fair. She thought that the press was covering me very, very unfairly and she stated that strongly and i respect her as a reporter. Very importantly, i got a standing ovation, the biggest ovation they had all weekend, by far. When i left the room it was a total standing ovation. It was wonderful to see. Nobody was insulted. What happened is, later on, the republican candidates, some of whom are registering 1 , and zero, and theyre extremely upset im leading the polls, and theyre extremely upset when the nevada numbers came out, too. Theyre threw the roof. Mr. Trump, lets go back to this issue of john mccain and youre talking about the Cheryl Atkinson<\/a> piece, you said, hes a war hero because he was captured. You said, perhaps he was a war hero. I want to read you a short bio of john mccain, he was shot down in 1967 on his 23rd Bombing Mission<\/a> over north vietnam, he fractured both arms and a leg when he ejected and nearly drowned when he parachuted into a lake. He was pulled out by north vietnamese who crushed his shoulder, he was beaten, tortured and interrogated. He spent 5 of 1 2 years as a p. O. W. The north vietnamese offered him Early Release<\/a> for propaganda purposes, he refused until every man taken before him was released. You do not think that this is a war hero, captured or not . I didnt say anything differently, and if you read and if you watch and take a look at what you have, i said nothing differently. Im very disappointed in john mccain, because the vets are horribly treated in this country. Im fighting for the vets. I have done a lot for the vets. I have been going around the campaign trail, theyre treated like third class citizens. Hes done nothing to help the vets. And let me tell you, they are living in hell. Let me tell you this, what the commander, the veterans of foreign war said about your comments, for someone who never served a day in uniform to criticize the service and sacrifice of a combat wounded veteran is despicable. An insult to anyone who has worn the uniform. To all americans, an attack on one veteran service is an attack on us all. They apparently think you were criticizing mr. Mccain in saying that he was not a war hero. Maybe they dont speak to the same vets that i do speak. I go all over the country. I speak to vets, theyre having absolutely miserable times. It takes them six, seven days, just to get in a reception room, just trying to get in to see a doctor. Theyre treating horribly. And Everybody Knows<\/a> it lets go back to your comments about john mccain its a scandal and john mccain has done nothing to help the veterans. Mr. Trump, i have covered the veteran issues for many many years. Indeed there are big troubles in the Veterans Administration<\/a>. And by the way, this all started, martha, when we had thousands and thousands of people in phoenix, arizona, and john who, by the way, devastated by illegal immigration, something that im very proud to have brought to the forefront. We have thousands of people, and he said theyre all crazies. He called them crazies. Frankly, i think he owes them an apology. Let me talk about your language about him being captured. You say you prefer those who arent captured. What could john mccain have done not to be captured . Well i did say this. People who fought hard and werent captured and went through a lot, they get no credit, theyre forgotten. People that were not captured, that went in and fought, nobody talks about them. Those are heroes also. I think people do talk about those people, as well. But what i dont think so. But what did you mean, you prefer those who arent captured . I want to give them credit, they dont get the credit. John mccain gets credit, he was elected a senator, et cetera. Well give him all the credit. In the report it said from cheryl, four times, i said, he is a hero, but, you know, People Choose<\/a> little selective like you try do. People choose little selective pieces. If you read what i say, or if you watch what i say, youll say that there was nothing wrong. But people who werent captured are also heroes, martha. I want to talk about you and your deferments, how many deferments did you actually get and what were they for . I believe you had student deferments and medical deferment. Like many other people during the war, student deferments. During the war and after the war. I had a minor medical deferment for feet, for a bone spur of the foot, which was minor, i was then entered into the draft, because if i got a different number, i would have been drafted. I was fortunate in a sense because i was not a believer in the vietnam war, that was another war that was a disaster for this country lives and money, its disgraceful with what happened with the vietnam war. I was not a fan of the vietnam war. But i was entered into the draft and i got a very, very high draft number. That wasnt until 1969. Excuse me the lottery wasnt until 1969. You had many deferments before. Excuse me, i was entered into the draft lottery, if i would have gotten a low number. I got a number, i think it was 356, right at the very end. And they didnt get i dont believe pass even 300. I was not chosen because of the fact that i had a very high lottery number. You there seems to be a pattern, mr. Trump, when youre criticized or attacked, you often respond with namecalling with dummy, loser, total closer on twitter and elsewhere. You even demean some peoples physical appearance. Is that something you would continue doing as president . Is that language beneath the office of president . When people attack me, i let them have it back. You say physical appearance, its my hair, but people are constantly attacking my hair. I dont see you coming to my defense. You know, my hair is just fine. But i dont see you coming to my defense. If i Say Something<\/a> about somebody else, yesterday, i mentioned somebody was saying mccain is a smart man. I said really . He graduated last in his class in annapolis. People laughed when i said it. Im very disappointed. I understand john mccain. I backed his raise. I think a Million Dollars<\/a> for mccain. He ran for president and lost to obama and let us down. I wasnt thrilled with that. But i will say what i want to say. Maybe thats why im leading in the polls, because people are tired of politicians and pollsters telling the politician exactly what to say. And believe me, this whole thing was brought up by a lot of the people that are competing against me currently that arent even registering in the polls. Because people are tired of them. Have you ever said anything that you regret . Yes, i have, on many occasions. Can you tell us the few of those . No, i wouldnt do that. I wouldnt do that, martha. Its not the appropriate time. Certainly i have said things that i could have held back, but not that often. Surprisingly not that often. Certainly there have been some occasions. Let me get this clear. Youre not apologizing and youre certainly not pulling out of the race as some of your opponents have suggested . Of course, they would love have me to do that because im leading the pack. Im certainly not pulling out. Im leading in many states. North carolina just came in. Im way in the lead there. Nevada, im way in the lead there. Interestingly, in nevada, i lead in hispanics by a tremendous the hispanics im way into the 30s with hispanics. Which i said if i get the nomination if i run for president , i will win the hispanic vote because i will be able to take jobs back from china, jobs back from japan and mexico and everybody else thats ripping us off in trade and Everybody Knows<\/a> that. I will win the hispanic vote. So, you think this will actually help you this is involving veterans and you heard what i said about those veteran groups, you still think this will help you in the polls . I believe i will do far more for veterans than john mccain has done for veterans. All talk, no action. You look at whats happening in our veterans, theyre being decimated. Okay, so, i will do far more for veterans than anybody. I will be able to build new hospitals, i will be able to build them care centers. I will be able to help the veterans. John mccain has failed. Because all you have to do is take a look at the scandal at the Veterans Administration<\/a> and the disastrous conditions under which our veterans have to live. And believe me, i built a small group a veteran memorial. In downtown manhattan. I know what it is to help people and i know what it is to help veterans. Thank you very much for joining us, mr. Trump. Lets bring in democratic president ial contender, former senator and vietnam veteran jim webb who like john mccain attended the u. S. Naval academy. Senator webb, what is your reaction . Well you know thats a lot to react to in a quick minute or two. First of all, i believe if donald trump had taken the opportunity to serve our country, he could have volunteered like a lot of people did, he would have had a different feeling the kind of things hes saying. Its one thing to talk about issues, but when youre talking about military service, youre talking about duty, honor and dignity. The comments he made a few weeks ago about america e mexican americans insulted a lot of our veterans. I have some mexican americans that were in my unit and they. Reporter inflamed with these comments. One of them wrote a letter to mr. Trump and said, any time you want, come back and talk to us to military service. Oh, you didnt go. I have known john mccain for a very long time. I have a Great Respect<\/a> for him. I dont agree with him. You dont have to agree with him to understand the daily courage that it takes and took, when people are prisoners of war, undergoing the uncertainties of whether theyre ever going to come home or not and as you mentioned, how badly injured he was. Just quickly on that, you heard what mr. Trump said, i said he was a war hero because he was captured, was he backing off a little bit . Will that help at all or just make it worse . Well, what he said, theres no excuse for it, and you know he can talk about veteran issues, we all care about veteran issues. And i said, this goes to all veterans when they hear those sort of things, because youre talking about the dignity of service when you say things like that. Theres no way to take away the courage, the daily courage people like john mccain faced in those years of incarceration. Thank you for joining us, senator webb. Well have more with you later. Plus the round table weighs in on trumps future. Now that developing story out of tennessee, new details on that suspect in that terror attack that left five Service Members<\/a> dead. Investigators are working 24 7 to find out everything they can about mohammad abdulazeez. How did he plan his rampage . Who did he meet on his recent trip to jordan . I recently men those on the thethreat. I talked to numerous young men who supported the jihadist group. Now, officials want to know if the tennessee shooter had any links to isis. Heres senior justice correspondent pierre thomas. Reporter right now, the phones and the computers of abdulazeez are at the fbi lab in quantico, virginia, in an effort to find clues to his motive. He was not under fbi investigation, not under surveillance. The fbi want to know how he was able to operate under the radar. Theyre looking at his travel. Including a sevenmonth travel to jordan last year. Did he secretly go to other countries during that visit . They want to find out if he was using online aliases to view violent propaganda or using incrypted data to contact overseas radicals. Law enforcement is asking, is there more we could have done . Is there more that we should have done . Were people aware that he was traveling to that region . Were there signs that he was exhibiting in the community that were missed . Reporter the fbi is under tremendous pressure with terrorism investigations in all 50 states. Involves hundreds of suspected radicals. Many thought to be isis sympathizers. Just one week before the chattanooga terror attack, the fbi director was sounding the alarm before congress. I cannot see me stopping these indefinitely. Reporter we dont know if abdulazeez has ties to isis, thats the group he fears is an imminent threat specifically because of its unprecedented social Media Campaign<\/a> targeting smartphones, tablets and computers. It buzzes in their pocket, there is a device, almost a devil on their shoulder all day long saying kill, kill, kill. Reporter a daily sophisticated multiMedia Campaign<\/a> using all of the advertising tricks. Primary isis focus, directives to kill u. S. Military and its working. In recent months, at least half dozen suspected sympathizers plotting to kill u. S. Soldiers here at home. In march, in illinois, a man was accused of conspiring with his cousin to murder his american soldiers. In april, an ohio man charged after he traveled to syria and was allegedly directed by isis to kill military personnel. Men like abdulazeez in their 20s, the difference is, abdulazeez got through. For this week, pierre thomas, abc news, washington. And joining us now congressman michael mccaul, chair of the Homeland Security<\/a> committee whos calling the shooting an isisinspired attack. Chairman mccaul, can you tell us the latest they found out about abdulazeez . Well, the fbi is currently doing a forensics examination on his computer, his cell phone and his travels to jordan, which is right across the border from syria, so we have the threat of foreign fighters, but also we have the threat over the internet, which is a new threat thats out there, a new generation of terrorists, you heard the director talked about, these internet directives from a cyber command, if you will out of syria to activate people in the United States<\/a> to attack. And what they are saying is attack military installations and attack police officers. And what we saw was one of the most deadliest attacks on american soil against our u. S. Marines and an american sailor. This is the case were most worried. We have followed quite a few cases. We have over 60 cases that we have rolled over isis followers over the last year. Thats more than one per week. We have investigations into all 50 states, what keeps us up at night are the ones that we dont know about, and im afraid that this case falls into that category. And to that point, you had a naturalized citizen, numerous trips to jordan which borders syria, as you said. A father who was on the terrorist watch list at one time. Reports of abuse, online writing. Shouldnt alarm bells have sounded . Well, its 20 20 hindsight. I command the fbi and homeland fur stopping so many terror plots in the United States<\/a>. But we will be examining this case, i know the fbi is investigating, again, his travel, the father was on a watch list, was under an investigation that was closed, and well be looking at all those details, but, you know, this is, again, the new sort of threat thats out there over the internet thats very hard to stop. We have 200,000 isis tweets per day that hit the United States<\/a> and this is one of those threats that the director talks about, getting so the chatter is so loud and the volume is so high that its a problem thats very hard to stop and disrupt in this country. Its something that we have been warning about over the last year. Unfortunately, we saw it take place in chattanooga. Martha, if it can happen in chattanooga, it can happen anywhere, any time, any place. Thats our biggest fear. Mr. Chairman, you say 20 20 is hindsight. 20 20 hindsight. But, Tamerlan Tsarnaev<\/a> had a background that should have raised as larms as well. And havent we taken more measures since the boston bombing to stop or track someone like this . Of course. One of the biggest critics of the way that was handled, that particular case, we saw it fall through the cracks. You know, this is one well be conducting oversight and examining what happened, but, again, when were stopping like we did the fourth of july plot that was imminent to blow up military at fourth of july parades, when we stopped at garland. We arrested over 60 isis over the last year, again thats more than one per week, this is a very difficult counterterrorism challenge in the United States<\/a>. And i met with the generals that conduct the war on terror and you know what, i think we need to take the fight over there a little stronger and we need to hit these guys, these cyber commanders that are sending these internet directives out to attack, attack, attack in the United States<\/a>. I have to let you wrap up there. Chairman mccaul, thank you very much for joining us. Well be right back to look at these soft targets, military recruiting centers, even cruise ships and shopping malls, are we doing enough to protect them . This week with George Stephanopoulos<\/a> brought to you by hp. 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I think the right thing to do now is to do a comprehensive approach, there are, as you mentioned, martha, thousands of u. S. Military facilities that are embedded in the fabric of our society around the country, and its also noteworthy, that very sadly the four marines and the Navy Petty Officer<\/a> who were killed were on a federal installation, not in the civilian sector. How the shooter was able to gain access into that facility i think certainly merits further study. One of the suggestions is to arm them. I think people dont realize sometimes that on these bases people arent really armed, except for some security people, do you think they should be armed . Do you think they should be armed, brad . I think its premature. It should be looked at. I know some state governors within their Proper Authority<\/a> have directed that some of the National Guard<\/a> members who are in facilities be armed. Thats not the case for federal recruiting stations and there are matters of law in history that have to get involved. But i think there are also other measures that should be taken, such as hardening the facilities, bulletproof glass and doors. And i should also mention that the federal, state and local Law Enforcement<\/a> relationship with these military entities is very, very sound, and if theres an indication of an increased threat, theyre very quick to make sure that these sites are aware of that threat. And brad garrett, they can harden those facilities. They can look at it closely but it seems like almost Everything Else<\/a> is a soft target. Basically the world is a soft target, except for these little pockets. You cant really take a recruiting station and take it and harden it. Because you then take away what its there for. Theyre for us to walk in and decide if we want to join the military. So, a lot of we have to face the reality that some of us are just going to be vulnerable doing what we do day in and day out. Now, having said that just quickly, do you think they should arm people at these recruiting stations . I think we should not get in a big hurry to do that. People Walking Around<\/a> in the civilian population. Just very quickly, sum up what you think what we can do about soft targets . The only thing you can do about soft targets is improve your intelligence, in other words, the shooting that happened in chattanooga we didnt know about, could it happen again . Of course it can. But its got to be driven by what do we know in advance . Because were not going to lock down every facility, every mall in america. Thank you. Well have both of you back to talk about this a lot in the future. Next, inside the historic Iranian Nuclear<\/a> deal and the battle ahead on capitol hill. John kerry and israeli Prime Minister<\/a> weighing in. 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Could this be the beginning of a change in the relationship between america and iran. It wasnt the purpose of the negotiation, its about a nuclear deal. We certainly, i think it would diplomatic malpractice if we didnt keep our doors open to possibilities. This deal is going before the u. N. Supreme Court Council<\/a> on monday. You have heard some Harsh Criticism<\/a> from that from congress. Bob crocker said that is an affront to american people. Why are you going to the u. N. Before youre going to the u. S. Congress with this deal . Well, were not. What we did was negotiate with our p5 plus 1 partners who are not subject to the congress that it cannot be implemented until after congress has had a chance to vote. But the bottom line is, the u. N. Is going to vote on this before congress. They have a right to it, honestly. Its presumptuous to some people that france russia, china, germany, britain, ought to do what the Congress Tells<\/a> them to do. They have a right to have a vote. But we prevailed on them to delay the implementation of that vote out of respect for our congress. So we wouldnt be jamming them. One of the most controversial provisions here, in terms of these covert sites, iran can delay for 24 day before inspectors get in there. You, mr. Secretary, had said, anywhere, any time inspections. 24 days it was any time anywhere in the sense of a welldefined process that would have a welldefined conclusion in time. Three weeks for a process of this type is reasonable. Most important, were very confident in our ability to detect vestiges of nuclear work beyond 24 days . They cant clean up and hide what theyre doing . Various analogies of throwing things down toilets, this isnt so simple with nuclear materials. We have plenty of evidence of exquisite environmental sampling that will reveal the traces of nuclear work. The lifting of arms embargo, 100 billion in iranian assets. In five years theyll be able to go on the open market, arms embargo lifted. This is the premier state sponsor of terrorism. The United Nations<\/a> resolution, which brought about the sanctions in the first place, said, that if iran will suspend its enrichment and come to negotiations, all the sanctions would be lifted. Now, they have done more than just come to negotiations. Theyve actually negotiated a deal. Three of the seven nations shouldnt be held to any kind of restraint. We prevailed. And insisted, no, they have to be. We have ample other resolutions that allow us to hold them accountable for moving any weapons. President obama is committed to doubling down on the enforcement of those measures. So, i really think that a mountain is being made out of a molehill here. Now for the other side, lets bring in israeli Prime Minister<\/a> Benjamin Netanyahu<\/a>, hes called the deal an historic mistake. He joins us now from israel. Prime minister, we know youre adamantly opposed to this deal, what do you do, do you personally Lobby Congress<\/a> . Look, i think its very important for the Prime Minister<\/a> as the one and only jewish state to make our case against the deal that we believe endangers our security our survival even in the middle east and the world. I think thats important. Its a substantive disagreement. It should be examined. I know you have concerns especially about the 24 days to allow inspectors on Iranian Nuclear<\/a> sites and military sites. And yet, the u. S. Secretary of energy said the u. S. Is very confident in its ability to detect nuclear work beyond 24 days, is he wrong . I have Great Respect<\/a> for our intelligence services, theyre the best in the world, israels, the u. S. And uk. Yet, all of three of us didnt see for a long time the Massive Nuclear<\/a> bunkers. We didnt see the syrian work on a Nuclear Reactor<\/a> that was almost operational when we discovered it. So, you know, i have full respect for our intelligence, but its very thin ice. What would have been an ideal agreement. Dismantle for dismantle. That was the original Administration Position<\/a> and i think it was the right one. But, in fact, iran actually gets both things. It gets to keep its Nuclear Infrastructure<\/a> and it gets the full dismantling of sanctions. In a very short time. So the hard liners in iran are going to come out strong. Because they are getting evening they want. Theyre getting a pathway down the line within a decade or so to the capacity to be a threshold state with practically zero breakout time to many Nuclear Bombs<\/a> and hundreds of billions of dollars which they are siphon off to their terror and war machine. Ashcroft is coming tomorrow. Is there anything he can say, the secretary of defense, that will satisfy you . You know, everybody talks about compensating israel. I guess the question is, if this deal is supposed to make israel and our arab neighbors safer, why should we be compensated with anything . And further more, you know how can you compensate our state against a regime thats going to get a path to Nuclear Bombs<\/a> and billion of dollars for terrorist activities against us, against you and everyone else. I think the right thing is not to do this bad deal. Let me ask you one final question, the military option, we know youre not going to talk about specifics. Is there really any bomb, any military action that would delay iran building a bomb for as long as this deal does . As far as the military option, i never talk about it. Mr. Prime minister, thank you. Thank you. Were right back with senator jim webb and the roundtable breaks down the new donald trump firestorm. Donald trump firestorm. I understand how our American Military<\/a> works. I understand Foreign Policy<\/a> issues and i will assure you by the way that, if i were your president , i would never have urged an invasion of iraq. Senator jim webb speaking in iowa friday night. That event, the first time all five Democratic Candidates<\/a> have appeared on stage together and senator webb is back with us now. I want to go to the shooting in chattanooga, you were a marine, you saw many men die, do you agree that recruiters should have i think i know you do agree that recruiters should have guns, they should be allowed to carry they should have the means to defend themselves. This has dramatically changed since 9 11. Theres a basic logic here, if we dont know who these shooters are going to be and we do know that one of their targets that theyre focusing on are military people in uniform, then its just logical that we should provide them the means to defend themselves if they become under any sort of attack like this. That doesnt mean you have to turn a recruiting office into a bunker. As was being discussed before. But these are in civilian areas, i think thats the difference. Theyre in strip malls. Well, you know, we dont take firearms away from police officers. You know, there should be some means for these people to defend themselves. I had a long talk with the chief of staff of the army after the ft. Hood incident, which was also on a military base, there was not one military person in that gathering that had a firearm. I grew up in the military. Firearms were normal in these situations. By the time they called the police to get in there to help them, they had 13 dead people. How do you see that playing out, i know one of the things that we talk about with the military, theyre not police officers, so, how do you see a scenario playing out like that . If people were armed inside like i said, im not talking about turning these Different Centers<\/a> and bases into fire bases, but, at the same time, they should have the ability to defend themselves in some way. And try to think of it the other way around, how would you like to be sitting in one of these chair ngs a profession after arms waiting with weapons waiting to see if someone is going to come in and do harm to you and not having the ability im going to leave that to you. The iran deal. You said you have a lot of concerns and youre going to read it, what concerns you the most and would you vote against it . First, i have been a proponent of these sort of approaches toward rogue regimes. I worked with vietnam in terms of normalizing relations there, i led the change in burma in terms of opening up that regime. I just have serious concerns here, number one, even if all of these processes work, and i respect the people who put them together, at the end of ten years, what are we going to have . Have we now given our endorsement of the fact that iran will eventually obtain Nuclear Weapons<\/a> . And then secondly, the process beginning now, i think is we got to be very careful in terms of how it affects the strategic balance in the region in terms of signals that we send, not just in terms of whos got how many conventional weapons. I hate to say, be quick on this, because its your entire campaign. We will get you go campaign. How do you think your prospects look for being president and why do you want to be in president . You stayed in the senate one term. Well, i have had four different periods of Public Service<\/a> in my life. I have been able to move out of Public Service<\/a> for a while and look at things differently. One term in the senate is a term and a half of a presidency. I have had five years in the pentagon. So, why do you want to be president . Im very concerned about where we are going in this country and i think were going to see some dramatic changes in terms of how we approach our economic fairness issues and we really need a commanderinchief who understands how to deal with these issues. Thank you very much for joining us, senator webb. Ahead will donald trump keep his lead in the polls after this latest firestorm . And obamas big sale. Will congress accept the iran nuke deal . You can save over 500 bucks when you switch to progressive. Thats a fact. But this whole blondes have more fun thing. Standing by for fun. I believe that i will do far more for veterans than john mccain has done for many, many i believe that i will do far more for veterans than john mccain has done for many, many years with all talk, no action. Hes on television all the time, talking, talking, nothing gets done, you look at whats happening to our veterans theyre being decimated. Okay, so, ill do far more for veterans than anybody. John mccain has failed. Come of Donald Trumps<\/a> comments causing uproar. Lets bring in the roundtable. Bill kristol, espns lz granderson. Former michigan governor Jennifer Granholm<\/a> who is a chairman of puper pac and a Hillary Clinton<\/a> supporter. And abcs chief White House Correspondent<\/a> jon karl. A special welcome to lz and governor granholm. Here for the first time as abc news contributors. Were happy to have you many s times before. I want to start with our jon karl, however, will this hurt him, is this different, is this a turning point . Well, this is what opened the floodgates for republicans to come out and condemn donald trump, but look, hes content to lead in the polls with 15 . 17 . And i will tell you, there are two candidates that trump unequivocally helps in the race. One now, and the other in the future. The first is jeb bush, because he becomes the vessel for all the antibush anger in the party. He is unelectable, will not get the nomination. The second is Hillary Clinton<\/a>. You heard him again, yesterday, say that he will not rule out running as thirdparty candidate. If that happens, it guarantees a Hillary Clinton<\/a> victory. And bill kristol, just yesterday, you did a brief interview with abc news, calling older, wiser richer donald trump would be better than hillary. Still think that . I still think hes older and richer. If she gives you a few more speeches, she will speak up. No, i dont think anymore. Actually, he was a controversial character who said some useful things who brought some people in the republican tent. He jumped the shark yesterday. Hes dead to me. Hes dead to you . Hes insulted every veteran whos a p. O. W. With these insane statements. About how first your fault that you are captured or shot down. A total lack of respect. Not just john mccains but other people made this point for peoples military service and sacrifice. Im finished with donald trump and i dont think hell stay up in the polls. Republican primary voters are prorespect the military. He showed disrespect for the military. Lz, did his explanation do anything, change anything . Explanation . I thought it was more branding, sort of promotion. We know that hes not trying to be president of the United States<\/a>, hes just right to stir the pot and keep his brand out there. Thats what hes been doing. Has hes gone too far . Im amazed that we think this is the moment that hes gone too far. He went on television and slant a group of people. Why wasnt that the shark that got jumped . Why didnt it take the attack of john mccain for people to get so upset . Republicans start tweeting and denouncing. He said i like a few mexicans but others are rapists and criminals. And governor. The democrats sit back and let this play out . Well, i was going to say before yesterday that, you know, put up your feet and break out the popcorn, but i do think that he really went too far and i agree with lz, he had gone too far already and that this really i think is a signal of this sort of sinister thread that runs through a lot of the far right and tea party, this feeling like those who are different are not one of us, that its frightening for many in the older white americans who might be following him and who are angry, who may feel threatened by this by immigrants. I worry about that sinister thread. And ill be interested to see whether in fact there is a deduction in his ranking, if it stays high then i think there is a lot more that the Republican Party<\/a> has to fear. Lets look at the rankings. Latest abc news poll Washington Post<\/a> poll, before the comments trumps favorablety has doubled since may. Favorable is 33 . That is a double by the ware. So, what happens going in a week from now, if we took another poll, what do you think that would say . Well, i still think theres a portion of that electorate thats still extremely angry. I dont doubt that it will go down a bit when looked at what happened in the room when he made the comments. One thing that he was right about in the interview, he did get a standing ovation, he was enthusiastically applauded after what he said about john mccain. In that room. By the way, the other thing he said, he was asked, can you tell us do you ever ask god for forgiveness. That was controversial. He couldnt come up i dont really know, i kind of leave god out of it. He misunderstands evangelicalism. Okay, bill, we also scott walker, offially jump into the race this week, hes still doing well in the polls, both in iowa and nationally, what is his vulnerability . Maybe nothing . Yeah, i think hes a strong candidate. A mid western governor. Hes governed successfully. He won in a state that obama won twice. And i think the trump vote will go away. I dont buy a huge argument of Jennifer Wants<\/a> to make this huge chunk of Republican Party<\/a> it was the democrats yesterday who hooted at a convention. I just think its the number. Governor omalley said white lives matter, black lives matter. All lives matter. Unacceptable. I want to move on iran, since i just got back from iran, its particularly interesting to me. Lz, you tweeted, questioning senator tom cotten criticizing the deal, you said about senator cotten who has been in office for six months takes on six nations that have been working on this iran deal since 2006. Is there like a 666 thing going there . I thought it was curious that the number 6 kept appearing. The way the conversation continues to happen, i spent a couple of weeks in london, i was there covering wimbledon for espn, the conversation thats happening abroad in this deal, its totally different than the way its promoted here and talked about here. Here, its all through the lens of america. All through congress. Abroad, its about the width of how it affects russia china, the uk. Its the width of the deal and not just domestically. Thats important as we have this conversation here. This is not whether or not obama negotiated a bad deal, this is about whether the six nations involved in the conversation found this deal to be advantageous versus against the current status quo. Thats what the conversation needs to be do you think well, no. Part of the conversation is how congress feels about it. But congress isnt the leader of the uk, china im sorry. Thats right. Congress just gets brushed aside on whether america goes along right, for america. Right we need to have a conversation who else is impacted by this and what are their thoughts on this as well. Because a this should influence to have a intelligent conversation about it. So, lets quickly move to the hill very quickly, governor, you think what happens on the hill. I think people should take a look at Hillary Clinton<\/a>s statement on this, because its not the end of the story. Its the beginning. Its the first step. There are a lot of arrows in the diplomatic quiver to constrain irans bad behavior in other areas, this is one thing, and the goal was reduce irans ability to get the bomb, and they have done it. Jon, im going to give you ten seconds. You know what that means. I will tell you that the white house thinks they can keep this disapproval resolution from passing the congress by getting at least 41 no votes in the senate. That means they can hold most of the democrats. I dont know if that is the case but theyre off to a good start. What would this do to president obamas Foreign Policy<\/a> legacy . Youve got ten seconds. I think its a tremendous legacy. Because it shows that america can lead with allies and strategic coalitions, it doesnt have to be america unilateralism. And cowboyism. Okay, thanks, all of you, very much. We will keep an eye on it. We may not know about it for a long time. Finally, this morning, the heroes killed in the tennessee terror attack, four marines and one sailor. Some of these brave men survived wars overseas, only to tragically fall here at home. We remember these remarkable americans. And, please remember. Thats all for us today. Thank you for sharing part of your sunday with us. Check out world news tonight and well see you back here next week. Have a great day. In the news this sunday a person of interest named in the deaths of five persons in modesto has been located here in the bay area. Well have the latest. 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