From uc berkeley, dr. Lee riley. Dr. Riley, thank you for joining us. Thank you for inviting me. We are facing rising numbers of cases. What is driving this idea, this curfew in california . Well, i think for one thing, you know, everybodys really concerned about this resurgence, so something needs to be done and i guess this is one intervention that i think the state decided could be made. Whether or not this is going to work or not, time will tell. Yeah. Mean, after all, this is one tool at their disposal, as you said, but of all the tools available, do you think this is one that will be most effective based on what we know about what happens between 10 00 p. M. And 5 00 a. M. . Right. This is a time frame where not many people are going to be going out having big parties. Ok, theres some bars may be open and some people might congregate, but bars dont really contribute significantly to the kind of surge were seeing right now. Most of these transmissions were seeing right now are happening in peoples homes, when people gather in their own private places, and so im not sure if this curfews going to have much of an impact in curtailing that type of gathering in homes. Yeah. In fact some have suggested that if people captain hang around outside, have to take that Party Indoors to someones home, which can make it more dangerous. Exactly. Is that something thats happened . Thats been dmobd in london. In london they started curfew with earlier and theres some evidence that especially young people there might have been an increased number of cases in young people because of the curfew, and there doesnt seem to be any evidence that its working in london and maybe the other european cities are doing this, so far, its not clear if this is something much of an impact. Do you think likely its more than just optics . I think its cosmetic. I think the state really need to do something. They felt a need, a pressure to do something about this. I think they should be focussing on other areas where they can make much more impact, such as stressing the contact investigations. This is something people have not talked about very much recently and this really needs to be implemented and so is doing better than most places in terms of contact tracing, based on what information they have from that. I understand its not extensive enough. What are the circumstances . That should guide our policy . Right. So i think, you know, as i said, most of these transmissions are occurring in peoples homes, but you know, just showing that this is happening in peoples homes is enough. Once somebodys diagnosed with the disease, contacting theization has to be done. People have to be quarantined. In addition to all the social distancing recommend naigs days, we really kneeled to make more of an emphasis on guaranteeing quarantining people who are contacts test positive people. Yeah, but how do you do that if people are uncooperati . Contract tracers say sometimes people dont want to talk to me because they dont want to have to make their friends quarantine. Why is that that we think beneed to keep it quiet and not help . I think people are not really taking this seriously. The reason china and taiwan and those plays have been so successful is because people do take seriously the quarantine measures. They do adhere to what the government and the Public Health officials are telling them to do. Here unfortunately, different type of culture maybe and people not doing what they should be doing. That is certainly true. Hey, i want to ask you. San francisco, of course, is still in the red tier, looping with sap mateo and ma run counties. But they held a News Conference and warned that they could be in purple by sunday. Is there anything people can do between now and then like changing their behavior to prevent that from happening or is anything we do in the next three days not going to impact where we are . Im afraid id not making much of a difference. Im not sure exactly why San Francisco and san mateo and marin are exempt from did thing right now. The theyre going to come to these places and congregate and definitely these red tier counties are going to shift over to the purple tier in the next few days. New numbers suggest that young people are spreading covid, yet old people are dying. Older people are the ones with the underlying conditions, more likely to have underlying medical conditions. Its well established now that this disease predominantly affects people with underlying medical conditions b with more severe passion. I think thats if the main spreaders are people for whom they dont show symptoms or dont have it very badly. How do you incentivize them to say im going to do the right thing and be cautious. They need to realize its not about them. Its about their relatives. Their friends and relatives and close partners. Its not about them. Theyre ok. Its the close ones that have to worry about the risk of dying. Yeah. This is not about them. Its about others. Think we need a Public Education campaign there. The World Health Organization today advised against the use of remdesivir for hospitalized patients. Id like to ask why. Why is the w. H. O. Saying this . About thee or four weeks ago they came out with the results of this large multicenter study that showed that remdesivir did not have the kind of impact that the original studies seem to suggest and so the original status suggested that remdesivir could decrease the hospitalization but not mortality or any other outcomes, but these large studies from p. H. O. Came out with a report that it didnt even have an impact on reducing the length of hospitalization. Ok. I think thats why they came out with this new report. Thank you for that. Were seeing more Outdoor Dining tents. Theyre trying to do tents. If you have been cracked down pop or fined, if you will, for not meeting standards, can you let us know what a safe tent looks like versus an unsafe one when you type out . Im not sure anybody really knows. Its how social distancing is implemented in those types of Outdoor Dining facilities what about. That would be helpful but if its outdoors and its not an enclosed tent, that should help, but if its completely in closed tent, that may cause some problems. All right. Because then effectively, its just like being indoors. Right. Before you let you go im just going to ask you obviously as a doctor looking at the situation what are you personally going to do for thanksgiving, how are you going to celebrate it and hopefully we can take our cue from you. My original plan until three days ago was go visit my sister. We do that every year. Shes a graduate to have the Culinary Institute of america and she makes the best thanksgiving feast. Unfortunately two days ago we canceled it because of all thats happening. Washington state has implemented more restrictions. The governor here is advising against traveling outside the state. So we canceled the trip. Staying safe. I hope youll industrial a happy thanksgiving. Next year you can have that delicious pie. I hope so, too. All right. Dr. Riley, thank you. Thank you. Byebye. Well take a short break. When we return, more about the effectiveness of the new cur and we are back. We have seen mixed reactions to governor good afternoon newsomes new mandate in the purple tier. Theres 41 in that tier. Here to talk about us is melissa menendez. Thank you for joining us. Oh, its good to be on again. Thanks so much. Your county, riverside is in purple. So the state mandated curfew for nonessential gatherings begins tomorrow night. Whats your reaction to the curfew order . Its hard for people to understand why they need to follow a curfew and the mandates that are coming from the governor when the governor isnt polg his own rulings. We saw in the news where the governor went to a Birthday Party as at a very exclusive restaurant, the social laundry. Certainly more than three households gathered in the group. I think it will be hard for him to get people to follow these rules given that hes not following them. Its like your grandfather standing there with the grass of whiskey saying you shouldnt drink. Its hard to get message across when youre not doing it himself. He admitted that this would set him back in terms of his ability to convince people. Im wondering which other areas of the Pandemic Response or personal choices do you disagree with . Well, honestly, you know, people had been in this for eight months and people are tired. Theyve grown weary and thats mandates keep coming out and the rules continue to change. We had one said of rules in the beginning. Then we went to the tiered system and i think people are getting frustrated where that. I understand where the governors coming from, that we have seen an increase in cases and we dont want that to continue, but i go back to, you know, this group that they seem to be targeting, which are the people who are going to be partying in later how fast of the evening, if they are doing that now, knowing the risks that are associated with it, knowing that they can contract covid, they could pass it on to somebody whos more vulnerable, if theyre doing that, knowing all of that, im not sure theyre going to respond to the governor placing a curfew on them if theyre not terribly worried about the risks right now. So i dont know that its going to be that effective. Most people, i myself, generally not out after 10 00 at night. So it doesnt really effect me but ive heard Restaurant Owners saying we have people coming in after their evening shifts who want something to eat. If we cant be open, where are they going to get something eat, relax, get their down time. I want to talk about the edd, the agency has been mired in problems. Weve done stories looking at how bad the situation is now, especially with people having their money frozen, their claims frozen because of rampant fraud. Tell me what you are doing to address that. We soenlt a letter asking for specific questions, number one, when are they going to implement the changes that the auditor made, because we know that people were sending Social Security numbers, that is rife for identity fraud. We have asked them please respond. I think that if the legislature were in session like we ordinarily are, we would have that opportunity to bring edd representatives before us in a committee and ask them those questions did directly. It seems like its easy for them to push things off, which we cant afford to do. So we wranlt to know, number one, what are you doing to protect peoples privacy and protect our personal information . What is going on with hiring as far as having enough people to handle all these claims, especially if the pandemic, the lockdown continues, because there are so many people out there hurgt. Add to this that businesses cant be open past 10 00, you may have more people who are filing claims. Its almost like the tie tappic, so hard to change course. Theyve had a year and a half to try to address the certainly security issue. How much of this do you lay at the feet of Governor Newsome or do you think he inherited . I think youre bo earth right to be fair with the governor. But when you are the leader, you assume all of the responsibility. Everything that goes well, you take credit for, everything that goes poorly, you have to take credit for that, also. Edd has had two years to address the Social Security issue and they havent done it. Its time for Governor Newsom to rein them in. When will you are in a leadership position you have to rise to the challenge. People expect that of you have and they deserve that, so i would say that the governor, though he may have been dealt a little bit of a bad hand, he has to show us hes up to the task and get things done. State senator melissa melendez, thank you for your time. Take care. Thanks. Coming up next, a man who list in Discovery Bay who was told by his neighbor to stop how about poor fred wilson . What a shame. So soon after retiring. I hear his wife needed help with the funeral expenses. Thats ridiculous he had Social Security. When my brother died, his wife received a check from Social Security, all right for 255 the funeral costs were well over 8,000. How on earth did she pay for it . Fortunately, my brother bought additional Life Insurance before he retired. Whew i bet that cost a pretty penny, huh . Not with Colonial Penn. Coverage options start at just 9. 95 a month. Less than 35 cents a day. I have it myself. We both do. Both of you . Thats right. 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Thank you for having me. Since the video went viral, what kind of responses have you gotten from people big majority have been supportive. We get support from people outside of Discovery Bay. Just, you know, unfortunately incidents like this are all too common across this country, so it even resonated with them because theyve been through events like this before, but obviously, they didnt reach and make it to a platform like this where it could be discussed sand hopefully bring out some sort of change. Has your neighbor reached out to you or her family or friends . One of the neighbors tried to reach out for her. They actually came over and the neighbor the neighbor spoke for her basically. It was nothing that i felt was genuine, and it was sort of to kind of put a bandaid over the situation and sweep it under the rug. It was not an apology . No. It was it was to me, they tried to apologize but to me it wasnt something that was really genuine. It was more so the neighbor trying to create peace within the neighborhood. Perhaps youll get there some day but look, a lot of people really marvelled at how calm you were, even though the woman had a stun gun. Andrea saying he handled that way better than i would. Im too quick and i would have gotten heated. I want to ask you, what is your background. What gave him that kind of composure and authority . I grew up with a father who has been in a professional position, you know for over 30 something years and he was a firefighter for the city here in the bay area and thats where, you know, learning how to deal with highstress situations, pressure, thats who i learned i had an incredible example of a black man, black leader who dealt with all kind of situations, so, you mow, whether its genetics or whether its just me getting a chance to see what he dealt with and i enended up joining the military and was in the u. S. Army. Everything you do is everything were taught is how to operate and deal with and complete objectives under the highest stress levels we can deal with. From there, i continued to educate myself and put myself in situations that would help me to be, you know, jumaine taken that level of calmness in any situation. Yeah. And and i guess that background led you to start a Company Black anchor tactical. I think we have the website there. You provide security, right . Thats correct. And once weapon show that picture, folks, well see that your shown with some high powered weapons there. Clearly from the way you acted we can tell thats not your default in a tense situation. The default is clearly in your case to diffuse. I guess what did you take away from this encounter that you can share with our viewers in case they, too, come across this type of situation . How can your training help them . I think its training and i think its also i have something to lose. Had i done anything different, maybe were not having this conversation today and attacks like that doesnt even exist anymore. As a black man, i provide jobs or other africanamericans. I have put black people in positions that they may not have gotten anywhere else and theyre thriving. So people want to know what allows me to have a calmness, its the fact that i am building something that all black people want and that is the ability to provide, to empower, and to share and grow, you know, with my own people, and we are were a diverse company, but thats you know, ive thought about all of their faces and they depend on me just like i depend on them, so thats that was the greatest twhaep i had during that time. It wasnt a fire arm, a knife. It wasnt my fists. It was common sense and it was the mental capacity to understand that theres more at stake, you know, unfortunately, you know, during that incident. Well wart i think ellie rose speaks for a lot of us when she said garrett, youre an amazing human. You keep your cool and send her to have a nice day. Props