Buttigieg, republican congresswoman nancy mace, and analysis from our powerhouse round table. George crackdown tiktok is a threat to u. S. National security. George Congress Moves a step closer to banning tiktok. Biden endorses the move. Trump opposes it. Well speak with kara swisher. George and you want to talk about history, but you dont want to talk about race . I dont know how you cant. George with the film adaptation nominated for best picture, why the book killers of the flower moon is at the center of oklahomas fight over teaching race in the classroom. George good morning, and welcome to this week. Its the first rematch between a president and the president he defeated in more than a century, and its a rematch that few voters seem to want. Our new abc news ipsos poll Shows Majority of americans have unfavorable impressions of both candidates and a threeway tie on who Americans Trust to do a better job leading the u. S. With 30 saying neither. Biden and trump held dueling rallies in georgia on saturday, and thats where we begin with selina wang. Good morning, selina. Reporter hey, george. Good morning to you. Thats right. We may be eight months away from election day, but those dueling rallies held here last night shows were already barrelling towards the general election. That biden trump rematch has officially kicked off. In georgia last night, President Biden and donald trump going head to head. Hello, georgia. Reporter both biden and trump now focusing their campaigns on november. Our freedoms are literally on the ballot this november. Donald trump and the maga republicans are trying to take our freedoms away, but guess what . Were not going to let them take them away. But if you are a disillusioned democrat of which there are many today, i extend an open hand and open invitation on which i ask you to join us on the noble quest of saving our country. Reporter trump whos days away from becoming the gop nominee for the third time rallying in a state where he faces criminal charges for his alleged efforts to overturn the results of the 2020 election, which he denies. Trump once again made false claims about the 2020 election and repeated his attacks on e. Jean carroll, despite a jurys more than 83 million defamation verdict against him, but that didnt bother those in rome, georgia part of the district of Marjorie Taylor greene. Would you still support trump if he were convicted of a crime . I would. I would say it would depend on the crime and on the validity of the crime. Reporter some 70 miles away in atlanta, biden repeating his warning that trump is a threat to democracy. He says he wants to be a dictator, i believe him. Reporter the president looking to build off of any momentum from his state of the Union Address. My purpose tonight is to wake up the congress and alert the American People that this is no ordinary moment either. Reporter voters we spoke to split on if that performance was enough. Did his speech ease any of your concerns around age . Last night, yeah. I would say it did. It didnt seem he seemed like he was focusing on the teleprompters. He didnt stray off and lose his thoughts. I think he put up an act, you know, hes trying to show everybody hes capable. Hes not capable. Thats the thing. Reporter while the president addressed his age on thursday night i know i may not look like it, but i have been around a while. Reporter the Biden Campaign now further trying to alleviate concerns that the president s age is a liability, instead pitching it as an advantage in a new 30 million ad blitz. Look. Im not a young guy. Thats no secret, but heres the deal. I understand how to get things done for the American People. Reporter last night split screen proves just how critical this state will be. Back in 2020, biden only beat trump by a margin of less than 12,000 votes. Now look. The Biden Campaign tells me they know how close this race is going to be. The president after his travels to pennsylvania and here in georgia, hes heading to wisconsin and michigan this week. The president ramping up the fight in those key battleground states. George . George selina wang, thanks. Were joined now by pete buttigieg. Mr. Secretary, thanks for joining us this morning. You know, the president got good reviews for his state of the union, but our new poll shows that donald trump has the edge on Critical Issues like the economy, inflation, and crime. How do you explain that . How do you turn it around . Im one of those who believes that President Biden deserves more credit for the historic, economic results hes delivered. Record job creation, unemployment that hasnt stayed this low for this long since i was born. Even though most of us dont think that the stock market is an indicator of economy, but if you do, because i know the former president does, hit an alltime high under President Biden, and not under President Trump, but also credit doesnt accrue unless you go out and take credit and explain how these things were achieved. Thats one of the reasons why im so energized by the president s state of the Union Address where he talked about the achievements that had come about on his watch and why, can then just as importantly, talked about a future. He didnt just talk about how he made sure seniors only paid 35 a month for insulin. He reminded america that we could have that for all americans. Thats part of his second term agenda and something we could have today if just a handful of Congressional Republicans would change course and stand with us instead of with big pharma. On issue after issue after issue, americans agree with President Biden, but of course, it requires work to get that story out, especially when theres a fire hose of negativity talking down the economy and trying to change the subject from the president s achievements which is just politics, but its exactly why its so important to tell the story right now. George a response came from katie britt of alabama. Lets take a look. The free world deserves better than a dithering and diminished leader. Just ask yourself. Are you better off now than you were three years ago . George you know, majority of americans are saying the answer is no. Thats the classic Ronald Reagan question. Three or four years ago, you couldnt get toilet paper. Three or four years ago, we were in the middle of a pandemic that killed about a million people. When we took office just to take a couple of examples from the transportation sector, there had been four straight years of promises about an infrastructure bill that never came. Of course, President Biden delivered that in his first year and is contributing to manufacturing jobs and construction jobs around the country. Aviation right now, one of our biggest challenges, is making sure airlines can keep up with the demand. Three years ago, the big question was whether american air lines would go out of business because of the condition the economy was in when President Biden inherited it. Those response addresses have to be written before the state of the union is actually delivered, and i dont think they usually change them based on what actually happens during the address, but anybody who watched that address saw not just in the substance, but in the delivery of President Bidens remarks, a leader who is in command, showing strength and clarity of vision. George but how can an 81yearold incumbent be the candidate of change . Thats so critical in president ial elections. Look at the changes that hes brought about. Take some of the issues that matter most to newer generations. Climate is a great example, right . I think he generously suggested that nobody in the chamber would disagree with him that Climate Change is real and a real problem and yet i could hear snickering from behind me from some Congressional Republicans who say they dont think it is a problem. Its what matters most is the age of leaders ideas, and similarly, if you look at some of the issues that are especially important to younger generations like lgbtq equality, i appreciated that he renewed the call for the equality act, and then of course, the issue of which i think affects all generations of choice. Look. The last president President Trump kept his promise to end the freedom to choose in america. Thats one of the few promises that he did keep. As a consequence, not only access to abortion, but access to ivf is now being interrupted in the United States of america. President biden laid out a very clear vision, called on congress to restore the right to roe v. Wade. George trump also claimed that this was at the sex trafficking. Katie britt thclaimed that trafficking crime happened when that happened in mexico under george bush. Thats not stopping the senator from standing by the story. What do you make of that, and with congress paralyzed, what more can the president do on his own to fix the border . Ill leave it to her to explain her falsehoods. Shes a United States senator, and the United States senate right now could be acting to help secure the southern border. As a matter of fact, they very nearly did with negotiations that included very conservative republicans and democrats and had support from the white house. Reaching that package that frankly involved tough compromises for all sides, the basis of both not all parties might have loved, but would have made a positive different, only for that to be killed because of the former president telling them not to support anything that would represent a policy win for President Biden. Look. We have a very clear choice between Congressional Republicans who seem to prefer that this issue remain bad so that they can attack the president over it and those who would actually like to solve it or at least improve it and address it. I think thats the most important question that should be raised and you mention that, you know, this story that there was suggested to be a reflection on President Biden turns out to have be from a different country. One thing that gets me thinking is since the beginning of the bush administration, there have been three major bipartisan attempts to have comprehensive Immigration Reform or do Something Big and meaningful about the border. I think 2006, 2013, and now 2024. Will 2024 go down in history as yet another failed attempt at bipartisan compromise or will Congressional Republicans follow the lead of their negotiators and the president of the United States and actually do something about it . George donald trump is taunting the president about debates. Do you think well see them this year . I cant speak to the campaigns side while im here as secretary. What i will say, we have a great story to tell as an administration, and just as you see the president hitting the road to tell that story, i know the cabinet will as well, and were proud of it. No modern president has been able to deliver this kind of job growth, this kind of low unemployment, this kind of infrastructure. Delivery hasnt happened since eisenhower. The nature of our world and certainly the nature of todays media environment is people wont hand credit to the president. We need to be out there illustrating why this happened and most importantly, making clear what this administrations agenda for the future is. George secretary buttigieg, thank you for your time this morning. Thank you. George our next guest is nancy mace, a donald trump supporter who gave candid and courageous testimony about her own experience as a rape victim weeks before launching her run for congress in 2019. From some of us whove been raped, it can take 25 years to get up the courage and talk about being a victim of rape. And the first thing that happens when a woman comes out in public and says shes been raped, what is the first thing out of someones mouth . Is that it didnt happen. This is why women do not come forward. They are afraid. George congresswoman, thank you for joining us this morning. You endorsed donald trump for president. Two separate juries have found him liable for rape. How do you square your support fur donald trump with the testimony we just saw . I will tell you that i was raped at the age of 16, and any rape victim will tell you ive lived for 30 years with an incredible amount of shame. I didnt come forward because of that judgment and shame that i felt, and its a shame that you will never feel, george, and im not going to sit here on your show and be asked a question meant to shame me about another potential rape victim. Im not going to do that. George its actually not about shaming you. You are shaming me. George youve endorsed donald trump for president. Hes been found liable for rape by a jury. Hes been found liable for defaming the victim of that rape. Its been affirmed by a judge. It was not a criminal court case, number one. Number two, i live with shame, and youre asking me a question about my political choices trying to shame me as a rape victim and find it disgusting and quite frankly, e. Jean carrolls comments when she did get the judgment joking about what she was going to buy, it doesnt it makes it harder for women to come forward when they make a mockery out of rape. When they joke about it. George doesnt it make it harder for women to come forward when theyre defamed by president ial candidates . Shes joked about it. I find it offensive and i find it offensive that you are trying to shame me with this question. George im not trying to shame you. You are. I have dealt with this for 30 years. Do you know how hard it was to tell my story when there were no exceptions for rape, incest rape or incest in there . I had to tell my story because no other woman was coming forward. No rape victims were represented and youre trying to shame me this morning and i find it offensive and this is why women wont come forward. George women wont come forward because theyre defamed by those who perpetrate rape. Theyre judged and and shamed. Youre trying to shame me this morning. I find it disgusting. It took me 25 years. I still get judged for it today. George im asking a very simple question. And i answered it. Youre shaming me for my political choices. George im asking why youre supporting someone who has been found liable for rape. It was not a criminal court. George it was a civil court that found him liable for rape. By the way she joked about the judgment and what she was going to do with all that money and i find that offensive. As a rape victim whos been shamed for years now because of her rape, youre trying to shame me, again, by asking this political question. George youve repeated that again and again and again. I find it offensive. As a woman, i find it offensive. I endorsed the man that i believe is best for our country. Its not joe biden, and you looked at the dueling rallies yesterday in georgia. Laken rileys family was with donald trump. They werent with joe biden, the same guy who apologized for calling her killer an illegal who was an illegal. And here you are trying to shame a rape victim. I find it disgusting. George you keep saying im shaming you. It is. George how is the question asking you about a president ial candidate youre asking a rape victim. George and theres no question about that, and youve courageously talked about it. Because ive been raped, i think thats disgusting. George im questioning your political choices because youre supporting someone who was found im not trying to shame you. Youre not answering the question. Thats exactly what you are doing and i think its disgusting. George youre welcome to say that but you have to answer the question. Why are you supporting someone who was found liable for rape . I just answered your question. George what is the answer . She was not found guilty in a criminal court of law. It was sexual abuse. It was not rape by the way and e. Jenn carroll joked about the money shes going to get and made a mockery out of this case and i think thats offensive. Theres a reason why women dont come forward, and when you have someone who says that theyre raped and they make a mockery out of this civil court judgment, its offensive to other women. It makes it harder for other women to come forward when another woman has made a mockery of it. George you said they dont come forward because theyre afraid. They are judged and shamed like this morning. George as you said, because they are defamed by those who commit the rape. Whats the donald trump has been found guilty of doing. He defended himself over that and denies that it ever happened, but he was not found guilty in a criminal court of law. It was a civil judgment. George the distinction youre making. A civil judgment is okay, but a criminal judgment is not . This is different. They didnt even input all the evidence into the civil case either because some of the information she put in wasnt accurate or correct. To sit here and ask me as a rape victim to try to shame me for my political choices is wrong. I think its offensive. George you can repeat that again and again and again and im going to. George im not shaming you. You dont find it offensive that donald trump has been found liable for rape . I find it offensive that as a rape victim youre trying to shame me for my political choices and ive said again repeatedly, e. Jean carroll has made a mockery out of rape by joking about it. Rape is not funny. George youve made it clear rape is serious, and it shouldnt be made a mockery of. If you want to defend a woman who made a mockery out of rape, you go ahead and do that. George what you are doing is defending a man whos been found liable for rape. I dont understand how you can do that. Not in a criminal court of law. This was a civil judgment over sexual abuse, not rape by the way and she made a mockery out of it. George it has been shown to be rape. The judge affirmed that it was, in fact, rape. Donald trump was found to have committed rape. Thats just a fact. That is a civil judgment, not a criminal