Possible it doesnt come back United States. In the fall. Next fall and winter, we are and the majority about 40 to going to have two viruses circulating. On testing. We are not in a situation we 50 of the mortality so we continue to watch this very say where we are exactly where closely. But that is where the we want to in regards testing. If projections take us and its very much based on detroit, louisiana, and other groups. With him. Reporter and disinfectants. Then looking at seattle, that never really reached a peak and any way we can do that by has never really had a large outbreak and trying to injection inside or almost a understand what we can do as a cleaning . People to ensure. Or use uv rays inside the socially distancing will be with body . That is a treatment. Us through the summer to really my guest this morning is dr. Ensure that we protect one another as we move through these deb was birx and governor of new phases. Dr. Birx, help me understand what happened with the jersey phil murray and former suggestion that the president made that the Task Force Study georgia gubernatorial candidate disinfectant injections . You said he was digesting stacey abrams. Information at the time when joining me is andrea mitchell. That came out of his mouth. Do you have any more information . And are you concerned that dr. Vin gupta of the university of washington. People might take bleach because nbc news Senior Business of what the president said . Correspondent stephanie ruhle. Welcome to sunday. Its meet the press in our i think i made it very clear continuing coverage of the in how i interpreted that. Coronavirus pandemic. I also made it very clear and so has dr. Fauci and everyone announcer from nbc news in washington, the longest Running Associated with the task force show in television history, this and their clarity around. Is meet the press with chuck todd. This is not a treatment. What was missed and really im hoping the American People good sunday morning. To give you some perspective and understand the reason why that study was important, that how devastating the coronavirus has been, consider this. There have now been more than department of Homeland Security did, was when we came and saw 900,000 confirmed cases of what mit talked about as viral covid19 in the United States. With over 53,000 deaths. Particles moving through the look at that number of deaths air. Its really important to figure for a moment. Sometime this week, we are out in the outside conditions. Likely to pass the 58,000 lives is there anything that decreases we lost in vietnam. The halflife of that virus . That death toll took us more than a decade to hit. And i think i was reassured this has taken us about 12 personally to see what impact weeks. The past seven days, at least 17 sunlight has on the virus and states in washington, d. C. Have the viral light and that should registered their highestever be encouraging to all of us. Oneday total of coronavirus we should still social distance and still wear the masks to cases. The National Curve may be protect others as we work flattening but its flattening through this epidemic but i at a very high level. Think its really important to what is now clear is that we, as see that sunlight, direct sunlight may actually be able to a country, particularly in the government level, have failed to kill the virus. Meet the moment. There is not enough testing to are you concerned, the understand the challenge we are credibility of the scientists on confronting. 26 Million People so far have the task force get undermined filed for unemployment wiping out the gains made since the when the president now with 2008 financial crisis. Money is not getting to the Small Businesses that need it to bleach obviously, you cant do that and hydroxy survive. And the president of the united chloroquine. States is floating ideas like is this undermining the ability of you and dr. Fauci and other scientists . I think all of us are very injecting disinfectants into clear and very clear in our sick patients. Some governors are tag a risky discussions with the American People how we are looking and step of opening their states for business and behind that decision, a brutal calculation. Utilizing data to derive the unemployment, the hunger, Decision Making within the task the depression and social force. Every day, about 2 30 a. M. I get dislocations of a stalled any with worse than the certainty of an even more larger death toll from covid19 as businesses i get information how is the reopen. Health care experts acknowledge the necessity of getting people virus moving and how are people responding to the virus and are back to work but warn that iite we considering everything to protect the American People . Second wave with disastrous and triangulating that data to consequences. Meanwhile, President Trump come up with that days work and eyeing the election in november where should ppe go and where is grasping at any idea to stop the virus and get the economy should we really be talking with back on track quickly. Governors about a recent outbreak and how do we protect to you take any governors in essential services . This is the discussion of the responsibility for these 50,000 task force and the physicians deaths that have happened in and the individuals involved in this country . I think we have done a great the task force are, every day, job. Reporter as the u. S. Death toll continues to climb, on focused on what is the most friday, the administration scrambled to contain the recent scientific evidence. And i think what really the American People should fallout. Understand is in the guidelines from the president s suggestion of injecting household that the nih regionally disinfectants might cure the published were helpful and put up this week to really talk coronavirus. I see the disinfectant knocks about clinically approach this. It out in a minute, one minute. But we have had really critical is there a way we can do data that has come to the Something Like that by injection forefront over the last few days about how this virus is interacting with people in the inside or almost a cleaning . United states. And i think that is really Top Administration officials tell nbc news that members of critical. We need to constantly be the Coronavirus Task force were focusing on what we are learning to save more lives and to make shocked by those comments our treatment more effective. I certainly wouldnt recommend the internal ingestion of a disinfectant. Dr. Birx, i have to leave it Surgeon General jerome adams there. I appreciate you coming on and warned, please, always talk to sharing the administrations your Health Provider first view. Stay safe and healthy, yourself. Before administering any treatment, medication to thank you. Yourself or a loved one. The epa implored never apply the when we come back, ill talk to the governor of the second product to yourself or others. Hardest hit state in the the cdc tweeted, household cleaners and disinfectants can country. As well as talk to an infectious cause Health Problems when not used properly. Mr. Trumps former fda commissioner who advises the task force. Disease expert. When we go to break, imagines of there is no circumstance under which you should take a disinfectant inject a lets read a bookdont come behind the teachers desk disinfectant for the treatment of anything. This is going to be so hard. I was asking a sarcastic so what were going to do is were going to make our own hand sanitizer. Question to the reporters in the im going to teach you how to give yourself room about disinfectant on the a selfisolation haircut. Inside but it does kill it and kill it on the hands and make giggles oh, no im so sorry things much better. A latest example of the ill be making my first birthday cake from scratch. President s desperate attempts to peddle treatment for a happy birthday pandemic that is killing make two stitches all the way around. Thousands each day. For weeks the president touted im going to show you how to properly soak your nails off. The drug of a malaria drug to ew. Ew. Ew. Today, were going to talk about how to groom your dogs. Treat the virus. laughing he looks like a Fried Chicken leg. Hydroxy chloroquine worked i have some key tips that will be helpful in working from home. Dada daddys gotta work. Unbelievably. Reporter fda citing heart today im going to show you how to plant some seeds wrinkle problems and warned against the use of the drug. Grow things youre going to eat you guys, ok . Ok the president has broken with the scientist who advise him. On testing i forgot to score the tops, yall. We absolutely need to significantly ramp up, not only the number of tests, but the capacity to actually perform them. Make it tough to take care of yourself, no, i dont agree with him on thats why you can rely on natures bounty. To give you the support you need. That. No. I think we are doing a great job to stay motivated keep active and sleep well. On the time line. Add a little more health to your day. It might not come back at with natures bounty. All. We will have coronavirus in the fall. Joining me is dr. Deborah and sometimes, you can find yourself birx. Heading in a new direction. Welcome to meet the press. But when youre with fidelity, good morning. A partner who makes sure every step is clear, let me start with the issue of reopening, and that is the theres nothing to stop you from moving forward. Four states right now that are doing some phase of it. None of these four states are meeting the guidelines that you laid out about ten days ago of what these phased reopenings would look like. What metrics each state should be looking for before they begin this. This wasnt a mandate. They were guidelines. I grant you that. How concerned are you we are up to four states not following these federal guidelines . We put out the gating criteria to be very clear about what epidemiologic pieces we thought were critical, what Health Care Delivery pieces we thought were critical, and what surveillance and monitoring pieces were critical. And we still believe strongly that those are the best Public Health recommendations to every state and every governor to welcome back. Next to new york, the hardest hit state in the country has follow. Would you advise any one of been new jersey. There have been over 105,000 these states that are ve opened, cases in new jersey, a georgia, south carolina, alaska, stayathome order has been in oklahoma, to be reopening right effect since march 21st and the now . Well, each state is different state is probably weeks awa from jmp starting its economy, and and the reason we made the governor murphy joins me now. Guidelines and gating criteria very specific was also im and governor, you have made note of these at your briefings. Sure a lot of people have missed the asterisk that said to sadly, we just did the math. The death toll now surpasses the look not only statewide but also countybycounty. Ive been very struck by how combined death toll of new jerseyans who died fighting in different the outbreaks are from vietnam, korea, and world war i. The metro regions to the rural i think the scope of this regions to the county regions continues to set in. And that is why we look at let me start with where you things in a very granular way and governors should be doing believe the state of new jersey the same, because there are is right now and how far away areas of every state that are you think you are from phase much more stable and much more one, incremental reopening of spared this epidemic than other areas of states. Are you concerned, though, the economy. Chuck, good to be with you. That if you have already four youre absolutely right. States not following the guidelines that you laid out, and we have suffered an more states appear to be ready extraordinary toll and loss of to possibly do that as well . Life. I think best understanding the data right now is that were still a number of weeks away. We end up losing all of the the fatalities continue to be ground that we have gained over the last six weeks . Significant each and every day. Ive had really very good our positive test curve has flattened, and thats a good conversations with a series of thing. Governors and they have really more importantly, hospitalizations have started to been very inciteful of how they come down. Icu and ventilator use down a are looking at this. Little bit. Those are good signs. They understand the risk and they talk about this not as but were not out of the woods turning on a light switch, but yet. I think were several weeks slowly turning up the dimmer, away, and the big mantra, and our state has done a good job of very slowly, and each thats this, i have to say, i give a why these are in phases and each shoutd out to our residents, the phase carries a very specific mandate to stay home and stay away from each other is still piece. To all of the American People, very much in effect until we can please read those phases, break the back of this curve. Because it was very clear that if you have preexisting have you decided if youre going to have a have a conditions or youre the elderly with preexisting conditions and statewide order that will have risk factors, we strongly essentially govern everybody the same or do you think youre recommended that you continue to going to cordon off, you have shelter in place. And continue to be protected and south jersey, you have the jersey shore that may have one continue to follow all of the set of timelines and reopening, guidelines. And anybody that you interact and of course, northern new jersey with another. With ensure that they are also following the guidelines very what path do you imagine taking carefully. On a reopening . Now that actually gets me to my next topic with you and that yeah, youre absolutely is the issue of testing. Right. The metro new york counties up instead of me asking the question, id like to get you to in our northeast part of the state have been crushed. Respond to bill gates. Here is what he said to a but its important to note that colleague of mine yesterday on the testing issue. Weve got positive test results in each of our 21 counties. Of all the things im most sadly, we have fatalities in surprised about the federal each of our 21 counties. Government response, the so while we havent made that unwillingness to get involved in decision, we have as a health care matter, a month or six test prioritization is the most weeks ago, separated the state into regions, north, central, maesing. 3 Million People in testing and south. That has proven to be effective. Capacity is under 200,000 a day. We just opened up with the army i know youve had your own corps a field medical station in youve worked with the gates Atlantic City in the south last foundation in the past, so i week. Should set that aside there a so i suspect, chuck, while we second. How would you respond to him . Havent made a decision on that, were going to move as one i think hes very there is state, recognizing youve got density issues in the north that a piece of us that have worked you just dont have in the together to do two things and i south. Think what is really important youre going to be needing is for the American Public to some money from the federal government. Understand how we are doing it looks like its going to be these tests right now. Probably a little bit of a back and forth inside of congress. Uniquely we are using acid if you dont get a federal testing. That means youre sampling for bailout or federal reimbursement the live virus in peoples nose or in peoples throats. Money, what are the first then you have to expand that services do you think you would doing what we call neclayic acid have to start cutting back on if the federal government either testing so not like a flu test limited or didnt give you some or a strep test. When we talk to the commercial money to deal with this pandemic . Companies almost seven weeks yeah, i mean, let me say ago, eight weeks ago, we asked this. We had constructive conversations and exchanges, and every Single Corporation and were on with the white house every single diagnostic company that had nuclayic acid testing morning, noon, and night on health care, on testing, on capacity on their platforms financial matters. Which is primary hiv and hpv, i have to reiterate what senator and makes tests for those mcconnell said about letting platforms, and in less than two states go bankrupt is to three weeks, every single one of these platforms are up and irresponsible and not factual. Running. Do your question, we wont go now, what we did with the bankrupt, but well gut the states and i think what mr. Living day lights out of gates points out very clearly educators, first responders, the is what did we do with the states to ensure that we have folks we desperately need. Identified all of those platforms . And you know over a week ago, we we need states to be fully sent out to states every single funded at the point of attack, being there for our residents, platform where it was located, so we need a big slug. Not just new jersey. Over 5,000 platforms across the theres a bill senator menendez states and showing and senator cassidy, bipartisan, geographically and by zip code where they are located. That is allowing us to work have sponsored for 500 billion. Closely with the states, to unlock that full potential, and thats ordered. Governor, one of the to prioritize states are challenges i feel will be unique to you and Governor Cuomo is outbreaks and to do active this issue of when manhattan can open up. Surveillance. We talked about asymptomatic and when, as somebody pointed surveillance to find cases out to me, you might be able to before people have symptoms and what we are doing right now with every single state. Look. Create office space that is the debate about testing i know the president gets socially distanced. Defensive and claims the testing you can phase people in, but how has been a success story. Do you get on the new jersey what it does feel as if there is trains with social distancing a hess tans to use the