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The country is still deep in recovery, and this years storm season is already underway. The relentless cycle of disaster, rebuild, repeat has many coastal residents feeling numb and helpless. And climate Scientists Say we can expect more frequent, more powerful storms in the future. As we first reported last fall, the netherlands, one of the most flood prone places in the world, almost never floods. Holland is about twice the size of new jersey and is one of the worlds most densely populated countries. Much of it is below sea level, yet the dutch dont bother with flood insurance. They dont need it. With Hurricane Season here again, we wondered, do the dutch have a solution . It was a disaster that unfolded in slow motion for four days last september, Hurricane Florence crawled up the east coast, dumping record rainfall more than 35 inches in North Carolina flooding thousands of homes and taking dozens of lives. The destruction from hurricanes katrina, sandy, harvey, and maria cost hundreds of billions of dollars. Florence is another chapter in a story we know all too well. We met a dutchman, henk ovink, who says its time to rewrite americas disaster playbook entirely. Henk ovink and theres only one opportunity. That is when a disaster hits. Its like a xray. It tells you where all your vulnerabilities are and gives you the opportunity to step up and say, we can do better. Whitaker ovink is the worlds only water ambassador, a role given to him by the dutch government. Ovink we need to take action now. Whitaker he advises the u. N. , 35 individual countries, and a dozen u. S. Cities. He travels the globe like a missionary, preaching the gospel of flood prevention. Ovink this is your house . Woman yes, this is my house. Whitaker one of his latest stops was houston, still recovering from hurricane harvey. So whats the biggest challenge in the United States . Ovink youre solution oriented. You have a collective. When things happen, you come together. You want to build back and repair and be ady when disastrous things happen. But theres not so much a belief that you can actually prevent a disaster from happening. Whitaker but how do you go about preventing a disaster, like katrina, harvey, sandy . It it just doesneem possible. Ovink we cant prevent them from happening. But the impact that is caused by these disasters, we can decrease by preparing ourselves. I think the catastrophes we see in the world are all manmade. The storms are perhaps man caused, and you can debate that. But the catastrophes because of the storms . Those are manmade. Whitaker its dical statement. We went with him to the netherlands to learn what shaped his thinking. Its water. Water is everywhere in this country known for its charming canals, picturesque dikes and windmills. But theyre not just quaint tourist attractions. For centuries, the canals and dikes have held back water. The windmills pump it away. Ovink took us up in a helicopter so we could see it from above. We flew over rotterdam, his hometown, so he could show usen. W oalrythin whitaker when was the last time this flooded . Ovink this doesnt flood. And we whitaker because of the precautions you have taken . Ovink yeah. Whitaker the dutch allocate more than a billion dollars a year to manage their flood infrastructure. Some of it is massive, like the maeslantkering storm surge barrier. These are the gates. Ovink right, theyre big. Whitaker theyre enormous. Ovink its like an eiffel tower, like the paris eiffel tower, on its sides. But then, two. Whitaker each one the size of the eiffel tower. Ovink each one. Whitaker the gates guard one of the largest ports in the world, and most of the dutch population. They dont have hurricanes like we do, but ferocious storms with hurricaneforce winds can blow in from the north sea and push in huge storm surges. When that happens, the two arms seal off the rhine river and rotterdam. The gates took six years to build and cost 500 million. Thats a big investment for something that youve only had to use once or twice since it was built. Ovink 150 billion were lost in new orleans. I dont think i need to say more. How many people were killed . Sandy, another storm, 70 billion. We dont have those damages. Whitaker but they did in the past. Your katrina moment was in 1953 . Ovink 53. Yeah. 53 was our real wakeup call. A storm blowing in from over the north sea, from the west. Whitaker what happened . Ovink it actually swallowed the southwestern part of the netherlands. The dams, dikes and levees broke and the water flowed in, taking away lives of almost 2,000 people. A lot of families were ripped apart. Whitaker the dutch still refer to it as the disaster because they havent had one since. Not a single death from flooding in 66 years. Theyve learned the lessons of the past well. Dutch engineers calculate how high and strong dikes and dams must be to withstand the most extreme weather, a onein10,000 storm. Rotterdam is at the forefront of defensive design. This Basketball Court can hold 450,000 gallons of storm runoff. This sloping park atop a Shopping Center is a storm surge barrier. And this worldclass rowing facility doubles as a flood reservoir. The dutch pride themselves on blending form and function. So what is this place . These look like dunes. Ovink they are dunes. Whitaker but, i take it, this is the netherlands, so these arent just dunes. Ovink no, these are manmade dunes. Whitaker henk ovink took us to one of his favorite projects along the north sea. The beach town of katwijk was vulnle engineers created these natural looking dunes. Many beaches in the u. S. Have manmade dunes, but theyreke t. And these dunes protect the town from a sea surge or a big storm . Ovink sea surge, storm, and also we incorporate Sea Level Rise of the future. Whitaker they also integrated urban planning. To unclog katwijks streets when tourists flock to the beach, and to raise the height of the dunes to 25 feet above sea level, engineers built a parking garage. Under the dunes . Ovink under the dunes. Whitaker so under this whole stretch is it looks like, i dont know, several football fields. Ovink yes. Whitaker under all of this is a parking garage. Ovink is a parking whitaker could a structure like this have saved new jersey beach communities from sandy . Ovink yes. It could. Whitaker you might call the netherlands the storm drain of europe. Several major rivers empty here. When france and germany flooded like this three years ago, most of that water ended up in the netherlands, but towns and cities in holland werent inundated, largely because of something the dutch are doing that defies logic. Theyre lowering dikes and dams along some rivers. Ovink rivers are living elements in a landscape, and they become bigger when there is more water and become smaller when theres less, and they need to have that capacity. Whitaker so you went from Flood Control to controlled flooding. Ovink yeah. Whitaker you have to let some places flood so you can keep other places dry . Vinkyeah. Whitaker the dutch call it room for the river. So this is where your old house was . Vic gremmer yeah. Whitaker vic gremmer, a social worker in the village of werkendam, personally had to make room for the merwede river. Hundreds of people like him had to move so their property could. So the government comes and asks you to leave. Did you have a choice . Gremmer not really. We we had a choice to leave, or stay, but on their conditions. Whitaker the conditions he could remain in the area, but had to sell the family home to the government. He used the money to build a new house on higher ground. Whatd you think of that, when they tore your house down . Gremmer the old house, there are 25 years of memories. Its really the end of im getting emotional. laughs whitaker but he said he did it for the greater good. Allowing the swollen river to pool in this new floodplain could save thousands of people from flooding downstream in rotterdam. The idea of moving people out of the floodplains in the u. S. , wed be talking about millions of people. That would be a really tough sell. Ovink you pay for people to be in the most vulnerable places of your country. Theres a National FloodInsurance Program that is going bankrupt. You pay disaster bills every year. And the rebuilding, its costing a lot of money. Its wasted. Whitaker that waste seems built in to our disaster d. N. A. In the u. S. , fema deals with natural disasters. Its primary mission is not to prevent, but to respond. Fema helps disaster victims build back, usually the same structure, in the same place. Dawn zimmer peoples apartments were flooded, peoples businesses, our critical infrastructure, all of our substations. So we had no power. Whitaker dawn zimmer was mayor of hoboken, new jersey when Hurricane Sandy hit, almost seven years ago. She told us the city of 55,000 people, right across the hudson river from manhattan, was almost entirely underwater. In some neighborhoods, ten feet of water . Zimmer ten feet of water, yes. And there was fish in peoples apartments. It was waste. It was oil. It was a toxic mix in our city. Whitaker she said hoboken got money from fema to put things back pretty much the way they were, but she wanted to rebuild smarter. Dawn zimmer it doesnt help for me to have a fire station that is individually protected, but theres water all around it. That fire station wont be able to help anyone in the middle of a storm. It just doesnt make sense. Whitaker so why cant you just get the money and use it as you see best . Dawn zimmer thats just no whitaker she says thats when henk ovink entered the picture. Shaun donovan, thensecretary of housand ban development,tapped t obamas Hurricane Sandy task force. The two came up with an idea for an International Design competition to fix what sandy had destroyed, following the dutch philosophy rebuild differently for the future. Ovink helped convince the federal government to cough up almost a billion dollars for it. You know, in the u. S. , that sounds kind of crazy. Ovink yeah. Whitaker 1 billion for a competition to rebuild . Something like that had never been done before . Ovink never been done in this capacity. So, they also had to believe my blue eyes and my story. And saying, okay, we believe this young man coming from the netherlands. Lets work with him. Whitaker a proposal that will protect hoboken and its neighbors was awarded 230 million of the competition money. A dutcsith the winning plans with a dutch twist a storm surge defense disguised as a park, with a boathouse. Benches, and outdoor seating as barriers to keep the hudson from drowning the city again. Coming up with the plan was the easy part convincing residents to go along was much harder. Zimmer there were people that were calling out, like, give back the money. Whitaker so let me get this clear, that even after the devastation of sandy, people were not convinced that they needed flood protection . Zimmer people are really concerned, for example, about their Property Values. What would the Property Values of hoboken be if were flooded on a regular basis and our entire city is destroyed . Whitaker after consulting with the community, the plans were amended, and most residents got on board. Hoboken plans to break ground next year. It could be the first test for ovinks vision in the u. S. Ovink its a choice in the end. Its a human choice. 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We first met him two years ago at one of the nations premier law schools where hed just become its newest professor. A tale of redemption as improbable as any youre likely to hear. Shon hopwood question one is, was there a constitutional violation . Kroft in his first semester at georgetown university, professor hopwood is teaching criminal law. Shon hopwood were the first statements unlawfully obtained . Yes. Kroft the irony isnt lost on him, or his students, who know that hes a convicted felon, and that less than a decade ago, was an inmate at the Federal Correctional Institution in pekin, illinois. Youre a professor at one of the finest law schools in the country. Is that something that you thought you would be able to do . Shon hopwood laughs no it it makes me laugh, hearing you say it out loud, because th make s to meand ive liv it. So i can see why it doesnt make sense to hardly anyone else. Kroft its easier for me to imagine you as a georgetown law professor thanisto imagine you as a bank robber. Shon hopwood well, thats because the bank robbers long been dead and gone. Kroft hopwood was born here 44 years ago, in the small Farming Community of david city, nebraska, surrounded by cornfields and cattle. He was a bright, cocky, stubborn kid from a solid family, and he hated rules; a good athlete and a miserable student who won a basketball scholarship to Midland University and partied his way out of it in one semester. He drank himself through a twoyear hitch in the navy, then added drugs to the mix when he returned to david city working in a feedlot. How much has david city changed . He was broke, unrepentant, and frustrated that things werent going his way. So, this is where it started . One night, he got a call from a friend asking him to come down to the local bar for a drink, and listen to what turned out to be a very bad idea. Shon hopwood he said, what do you think about robbing a bank . And most people would have laughed that off, or said, maybe we need another beer. Or anything, other than that sounds like a great idea, which is what i ended up saying. Kroft really . Shon hopwood you know, i dont think either one of us thought that night that we were going to actually do it. Kroft it wasnt until months later, when they started scouting locations, that shon realized they might actually do it. So this is one of your banks . Shon hopwood it is. This is the third bank. Kroft the idea was to stick up very small banks in tiny towns like gresham, where there was no