About the positive tests. Reportedly, the campaign learned of the situation from news reports. Thats like finding out your boyfriend has an s. T. D. From a pharmaceutical commercial. Warning signs of chlamydia include burning sensation, pain while urinating, or dating bill. Stephen and it wasnt just during the debate. The Trump Campaign played fast and loose with virus throughout the process. Just ask friend of the show and enemy of democracy, Chris Christie reporter governor, you were part of the debate prep. What can you tell us about the bubble . Were folks Wearing Masks . Were you wearing a mask . Was Rudy Giuliani wearing a mask when you were working with the president and others in the room . No, no one was Wearing Masks in the room when we were prepping. Stephen what . Youre in a room with Rudy Giuliani, and no one tried to cover his mouth . Now, in trumps defense, when it comes to the debate and the rallies he held afterwards, he had no idea that he had been exposed to the virus. He didnt know that until right before attending a fundraiser at his bedminster, new jersey, golf club. The theme was cough up the dough and get coughed on tickets for the fundraiser werent cheap. Donors paid up to 250,000. Thats a lot of cash to fork over just to get exposed to a virus. In new york, i know a guy on 14th street who will spit on you for free. In total, about 50 people came into close contact with trump. And since the news of the president s diagnosis broke last night, the donors have been reaching out to the Trump Campaign, freaking out. Oh, now that it is affecting you, youre freaking out . How could they have let the covid into the country club . Its not wearing tennis whites we miss you, thurston howell. The r. N. C. Issued a comforting statement, assuring donors that everyone who attended the bedminster, new jersey, event was tested for covid19. Okay, before they went in. What good does that do them . It doesnt matter how healthy you are before you swap spit th typhoid mary this morning, the administration really put the damn in damage control by sending out white house chief of staff mark meadows, seen here trying to sterilize the room with the power of his mind. A lot of people think the administration kept this information secret and needlessly exposed a lot of people. So a reporter asked meadows about the infection timeline, and he said, what timeline . Reporter what day and time did you find out that hope hicks had tested positive . And did you sit on it until after the president went out to his fundraiser in new jersey . Actually, as we look at this, im not going to get into the ticktock. Stephen as meadows im a little old for the tiktok. The teens scare me. Plus, the only dancing i do is around the truth. Watch this ill be taking no more questions. Was that anything . Was that anything that i just did. Close enough. Stephen heres the thing its bad enough that Donald Trumps recklessness put himself and those around him in danger. But what might be worse is that, by doing so, he compromises the safety of all americans. When the commander in chief contracts a dangerous virus, that has an effect on National Security. Based upon the number of personnel that he comes into contact with every single day without wearing a mask, it is logical that other senior personnel within the National Security apparatus could be infected by this virus. At minimum, they will also be unable to fully perform their duties. The u. S. Government is incredibly vulnerable at this moment. Stephen in other words, th president has a responsibility to stay safe so we can all stay safe. Trump not wearing a mask is the most irresponsible thing a commander in chief has done to our National Security since the night before dday when f. D. R. Went skydiving. Now, a lot of people are experiencing schadenfreude right now. In fact, merriamwebster reports a 30,500 spike in searches for schadenfreude after trumps covid diagnosis. But i for one take no pleasure in donald trump being sick, because like him or not and for the record not he is the president. It is his job to run the country. Thats a tough job for anybody. And now hes got to do it while hes sick. I know my decisions are pretty sketchy when im sick. Once i had food poisoning, and i almost convinced myself that the bathroom was too far away from the bed, and it would be easier to stay put and just buy a new mattress. And, honestly, if serta offered sameday delivery, i might have gone through with it. So, to keep us safe, donald trump and the first lady have to keep themselves healthy. That means staying in quarantine until theyre completely better, and then continuing to social distance until the pandemic is over. In other, words, as a very wise crod once said lock them up lock them up lock them up lock them up stephen weve got a great and unexpected show for you tonight. Ill be zooming with 60 minutes correspondent John Dickerson about the political implications of what has happened today. But when return, i have a lot of questions for cbs chief medical correspondent dr. Jon lapook. Stick around. Imagine the places well go. Together. Expedia knowinits hard. Re is hard. Eliminate who you are not first, and youre going to find yourself where you need to be. The race is never over. The journey has no port. The adventure never ends, because we are always on the way. Tonight, try pure zzzs all night. Unlike other sleep aids, our extended release melatonin helps you sleep longer. And longer. Zzzquil pure zzzs all night. Fall asleep. Stay asleep. 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Stephen my first guest tonight is a professor of medicine at new york university, a physician at n. Y. U. Langone, and the chief medical correspondent for cbs news. Here to break down the latest news out of the white house, please welcome back to a late show, dr. Jon lapook. Dr. Lapook, thanks for being here today. I know how busy you must be. Im happy to be here, teachen. Thank you for inviting me. Stephen well, it is it is truly troubling to see the president taken off to the hospital. What a sobering moment in time, stephen. It really is. And it and it was upsetting to see the president of the United States with covid19, and especially, you know, i was in the covid wards in april at n. Y. U. Langone, where im a professor, and i know that people can the first week, they can be quite stable, but then in that second week, they can take a turn for the worse. And i suspect thats why they want him under close observation at the Medical Center there. Stephen well, obviously, were hoping for the president and the first lady to fully recover. Now that he is at walter reed, what do we know about the severity of his condition, in anything . You know, you know, weve heard that, you know, he has some mild symptoms and a lowgrade fever. We dont know what a lowgrade fever is, exactly. Stephen that was my first question. What does it mean to have a lowgrade fever . You know, right, we know fever, cough, the dangerous one is shortness of breath. But we saw him for a few seconds talking. He gave a tweet, a video tweet, and he looked to me like he did not have shortness of breath, like he did not have labored breathing and he walked up the stairto the helicopter and he gave the ban sterk the rail, about three quick taps. That was sort of a good sign. But, you know, he is over 60 right, hes 74, which is a risk factor. Hes obese, technically, by the last numbers we have. And in the United States mortality from covid19, people over the age of 65, is 15 , 1, 5, percent. The odds are statistically that he should get better, especially hes under such close observation and care. But the one thing thats predictable about coronavirus is that its unpredictable. Stephen the president a physician said he received something called a polyclonal antibody cocktail treatment. What is that for the lay man . I think this was a misstatement. Its monclonal antibody. And you i talked last time about antibodies, if somebody has an infection they have all of these antibodies in their blood stream, and thats called convalescent plasma. In the there is different antibodies that dont attack that way to other things, other organisms in your body. The monclanl antibody is an experimental treatment. I should say that. It has not been proven to be safe. It is a Technological Tour De force in the lab. They make antibodies directly solely to the coronavirus, the crown, it just attaches to that part of the crown which is necessary for the virus to attack you. Its a very specific treatment. There is some preliminary data that it does look like its safe. It might be effective. But, again, we dont know enough about his condition to know what was the riskbenefit decision there . Why did they make that decision . Was it quote, unquote an abundance of caution. Its an experimental treatment. We do need to have more transparency, i think. Stephen we have so little transparency about the president s health in general, dont we . We know he went to walter reed was it 2018 or early 19 . You know, last year. Stephen last year, who we still havent gotten a really good answer as to why that happened. Do we at this moment know what the president s comorbidities may be . You know, we dont know everything for sure. And this you know, this brings up the whole point of transparency. One of the very first rules of Public Health crisis management, stephen is to be transparent to, just tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. And paradoxically, if youre honest with people, if you level with them, and they know that youre leveling with them, even if the news is worrisome, the whole process is in and of itself reassuring. So you just got to just tell the tell it as it is. People are grownups in the United States well, a lot of people are. laughs especially the grownups. But i think you gotta be honest with people and just tell them the fact s. Stephen well, the debate on tuesday was at case western and cleveland clinic. And the cleveland Officials Say that theyre presently aware of 11 positive cases related to the setup and planning of tuesdays debate. Biden, and dr. Biden, jill biden, tested negative today. Are they in the clear . Stloo a chance we just dont know yet . I love that question. The quick answer is they are not in the clear yet. We dont know yet. And remember last time we spent all that time explaining the biggest misconception in the pandemic in my experience is the 2 to 14day incubation period and its very, very, very relevant right here. Lets go over it again. If i get infected today infected i can be infectious, able to infect somebody else anywhere from 214 days later. That means i could get tested day three be negative, day four, be negative, anywhere up to day 14, and at any moment i could go from testing negative to testing positive and then infecting somebody else, even without symptops. Thats why its so important anybody in close contact with anybody who is infected that they get tested to see if they may be spread it to somebody else and that they go into quarantine. Stephen so the quarantine, would that include the people that have been in contact not only with hope hicks but the president last new days mike pence, bill barr, alex azar, kayleigh mcenany. Should they be in quarantine right now, regardless of their tests . You know, it depend whether they were felt to be in close contact, and thats up for sort of a little bit of judgment call. Supposedly it means within sex feet for 15 minutes. Theres no strict rule about that. But if they were in close contact, then they really should be tested to see if they they could potentially be infecting somebody else, and then they should go into quarantine. Theres confusion about the terms. If youre infected you go into isolation. If you are exposed to somebody who is infected, you go into quarantine. Stephen okay, okay. As a doctor, im sure youve had a lot of patient overs the years who do not take your instructions. A couple. Stephen and and a lot of americans arent taking masks or social distancing seriously. Do you think that this might be an opportunity to depoliticize the teaching over how to keep covid from spreading here, to take masks away from leftright, republicandemocrat, and just make it the right prescription . You know, you know, stephen, i do think its a potential teaching moment. Clearly, masks and whether you wear them or not has been politicized for whatever reason. Its very clear that weve had mixed messages on it. Its also very clear that masks are part of the armamentitarium to help protect us. Nothing is 100 . You wear masks. You wash your hands. You have the physical distancing. You try to be in a place where there are not that many dense people. Otdoors is safer than indoored doors. If youre indoors, open a window, have better ventilation, maybe an air purifier. All of these things work in concert together. Not one thing even the vaccine when it comes is not going to be 100 effective, so you have to do all of these things together. 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You dont talk about politics. But we are in the middle of an election right now. Coming in to the home stretch. We just had a debate on tuesday. His diagnosis is friday morning, 1 00 a. M. , Something Like that. At least when we found out. How long is a reasonable quarantine and the objective of this question is can he be at that next debate, which is less than two weeks away . Well, typically, somebody who is infected remember, he will be in isolation, because hes actually infected. And its supposed to be for 10 days from the time the symptom begins. After 10 days, it hasnt been shown that you can infect other people, that the virus can infect you. So he should be in isolation now. For the president of the United States, hes essential personnel, im sure he wont be literally in isolation. There will be people coming in there. But people who are with him should be geared up. They should have protective equipment. They should be Wearing Masks and hopefully goggles, gowns, gloves, in the hospital, and even outside the hospital because of the potential for spread by airborne route, then people should be protected. And i should add the reason why the word airborne has taken on such a big, charged meaning is the c. D. C. Is concerned when people hear the word airborne theyre going to think smallpox, tuberculosis, measles, which really has a tremendous amount to go through the air. Theyre worried when they hear the word airborne for covid19 thats going to say youre going to have to change, your guidance hav more stringent protective measures. Actually, i spoke to them about this, even if it is airborne its not felt to be spread by the airborne route nea