Administration unveilp a new regulation that would allow for the indefinite detention of migrant families crossing the ovborder. If appred, the rule would eliminate a key part of a 1997 Court Settlement that limits the detention of unaccomp tied mino20 days in federal custody. Administrathon officials argue new rule is necessary to deter mass migration at the border, but it is likely to face lal challenges from immigration advocates such as the aclu, which denounced the move as yet another cr l attack children. Joining me now to discuss this is university of San Francisco law professor bill yang and migration editor hendri welcome to both of you. Professor, the new rule, it publathetoday. Appens next . A federal judge has to approve it. What is the process . Legal g pers are befiled as we speak actually challenging the new proposed regulation, and the government will respond and the judge, the federal judge overseeing the case, will hear arguments very soon and make a decision on whether or not s the regulati are consistent with the settlement agreement. For people who dont know there is a key Court Settlement from 1997 in play here. It established this 20 day limit on detaining migrant chilen. Can you explain that . Absolutely. Back in the Clinton Administration there was a legal settlement the chbasicall saiddren are vulnerable. They are not the same as adults, and immigration it needs to care for them with the child welfarstandards in mind. So the settlement favors release of children as quickly as possible, keeping them in e e least restricttting as possible, it in a facility licensed for childcare by the state. It also gave oversight to ifthe plai attorneys representing the kids to be able to go in and monitor and make sure that conditions were t okay. Ns under the Obama Administration there were a lot more families coming, and they set up these family des ntion centat i. C. E. Was running, and the judge said those are not licensed for childcare. That is not an appropriate place for kids, it is more a jail like city. The government said we need at least 20 days probably to get theskids placed a proper facility or get them released. And the ninth Circuit Court of appeals affirmed that 20 ulys it be acceptable if you are moving with, you know, due put them in a more appropriate situation. So that is where the 20 day thing came from. Professor, what with inthe elion of this 20 day limit lead to . It would lead to the possibilitfi honestly, of inte detention because they can release, ey can turn these families over in theory to a state licensed facility, but that was the problem that the federal government had. There are nostate licensed of facilities for family detention. Children who are alone, unaccompanied children, they do get turned ove to st license facilities, but not families. That is why the 20 days constricted the government. Actually had to release folks. The been releasing many of these families moth ankle tors for example. But now the government is proposing that they want to keep them longer because they esumably need more time to take care of resettlement, but the Trump Administration has out deterrence. Ally th is they want to send a message to migrants that you should not come here because you may end being in custody for a long time. I want to ask you about that in a second, but i want to ask first, do you think that these detetion centers, as they are established now, are equipped to house families, lots of families, for long time . There are about three of these ggcilities, the t ones in texas, i think they can ho about 3000 people altogether, 3000 beds for parents and kids. I think if theyre going to do this indefinite thing, they would need more space. And, you know, child advocate say that detaining children, even if they are with their rents, is harmful for kids. So as the prdeessor said, ntion isnt required. The Top Administration says they want to hold people while asylum proceedings go forward, but those cases can take years, and the courts are very backlogged. Solets get back to this issue of trying to send a message. Nd i heard a white eshouse sprson basically saying the flores settlement incent ized immigration, a family or a shows up at the border, they know they will be tained fo 20 days and then basicall released into the country to await trial. There and, it is all good, their journey has all been worth it. Is this what you have absolutely not. If that were true i wouldnt feel so bad out what isgoing on, but at the clic we have at the university of San Francisco we have over 300 cases, and half of those are family units. I went to honduras in march and spoke with falies that were thinking of leaving, and i volunteered at the border in tijuana. These folks are fleeing because of desperthe circumstances. re not coming to eyvisit disneyland. Their fleeing violence, gains, cartels and in many cases domestic violence. Inesmy experience, folks are not coming just for a walk in the park. Congress approved 4. 8 billion an emergency humanitarian aid. The earmarked funds to improve conditionsin immigration detention facilities based in part on what the professor and other Immigration Attorneys reported seeing at a facilitymi that housed ant kids, mothers and babies. Along with removing the dmit aining migrant families, what with this new rule affect the conditions at the facilities where migrant families are being held . I think one of the other big changes that would happened, if the new rule es into effect and the flores settleme, goes awan the oversight that these plaintiffs attorneys on behalf of the children have and that the federal judge has to s mae that conditions are up to par and are appropriate for kids, that oversit goes away. The lawyers, like the professor, have been able to go insi the facilities and talk to children, and that would not exist anymore. So also without the requirement that the facilities be r licens ildcare by a state like the California Health and Humann Services folks, it is the federal government doing its own licensing, and there are concerns that there is not as much independent oversight of conditions. Immigration, stoppi essentially, has been the banner dont give ground issue for the Trump Administration. Do you see any daylight for a compmise . A conversation that leads to president trump, democrats, immigrant advocates comi together and making some sort of compromise that ratchets down the rhetoric that we hear so often about immigration . I wish i could be more peful. In my opinion, this is trreally aboup trying to play to his base. It doesnt have to be labeling these migrants a national securitu risk. Acly could be doing what was happening pr. R to 20 i am saying this about president obama as well, it is becomerma pejorative but catch and release worked. People were arrested, taken into detention but process very quickly. They weresent along yourway because i. C. E. Knows where folks are going. They have the names, addresses of relatives. There is a very high appearance ray. So people were not absconding. Until we recognize the humanitarian nature of really why people are leaving, i dont think thattheres going to be room for negotiation unless that kind of rhetoric ratcheted down . University San Francisco law professor and kqed immigration editor. Thanks both of you for joining us. By now most students in ar the bay ea are back in school after the summer break, but these days a lot of students are struggling with anxiety on top of their academics, whether it is the pressure perform academically, online bullying, or Mass Shootings d campus in public spaces, triggers for feeling overwhelmed or anxious about. Parents and teachers can also miss warning legns and stru with how best to help. Joining me now is katrina schwartz, the cohost of the mind shift podcasts and jenelle scott, a professor at Uc Berkeley Graduate School of education. Welcome to you both. Thank you. Katrina, i can remember when in 10th grade i realized that i had a history class that i loved. I love to the teacher, and i wasnt doing well in it. I was struggli so i got really anxious about it. But in your mind shift podcasts as we, i get the sense the anxiety that you were focusing on is more multilayered. One kids anxious about toda i think is or anxious about a lot of things, and it is kind of different for every kid, reb yoright that we are not just talking about stress, were talking about debilitating anxiety. A condition that gets in the way of stuff like work and school andsocial life. Some kids are dealing with academic pressure, but other kids are dealing with worrying d gowhat ir families is g on in the immigration system or violence in their neighborhoods or disappointing their parents. It is very ndfferent. It deon the kid. Time with anel Cerrito High School student, Brianna Parrish of. I want to play a clip of herdescribing how anxiety would overtake r. Started thinking about my mom, like, she needs better and i should be doing this and i am not and i start to panic. And then i cant breeze, and then i get shaky. And i end up a ball on a the floor just trying to get my breathing back on track. Wow. That is very overwhelming, paralyzing. How as she doing now . It heartbreaking, isnt shes doing a lot better. Her anxiety really will along with her depression. She was really good at hing all ofthat, but when they at school she had a panic attack and her first period teacher took her to a place at the school, a Wellness Center, the did jamesmoorhouse potter, and she was able see a counselor. Over time she delved and some of her issues, took care of some of r depression analso her anxiety. She is actually going to Community College this year. Awesome. Jenelle scott, weheare ing a lot about online bullying, other expressions of hate that students, when they sc go to ol, have to deal with and process. Is this something that academics are tracking . Yes. Certainly. I think when thininabout children and adolescents in school today, wehave to understand their living at this nexus of school, society, home and social media. Giveimthe e in which we are living in our society in which we are seeing hate speech and messages enabound, certainly st are bringing much of that to school, and so, there was a recent study out of ucla the tracked nationally represen School Principals and found that over 60 of the principals reported hearing antiimmigrant sentiments from eir high school students. At school. That is just a small sample. We see here similar things about transgender students, and racist messag, at school. Violence is also an issue on a School Campus in public spes, as a mentioned. To students have be thinking about this. How are School Districts handling this need for awareness, but also management of that awareness for the potential ofviolence . Right. And School Shootings in particular, districts have engage in active shooter drills, we have seen some of those splayed the media arou the country, but i think the consideration is whether those drills actually raise anxiety or alleviate anxiety. Districts i think are really figuring this out as they go along. There taking a look at their school serity, locking gates, havis. Visitor check all these things aimed at keeping children safe, but i think attending to the social and emotional e eds of children at the same time as we think about the physical safety is something districts are stl very much workin through. Weve been hearing a lot about the presence of perhaps more Police Officers oncampus. Imagine that cuts both ways for some students. Certainly. For raciallynor ties to students who have come of age seeing Police Violence targeted towards children who look like them, the presence of limore is not necessarily a comfort for those students. Because we have highlybe segregated schools by race and sooeconomic status, we ten see those schools where minority students attend are more likely to have metal detethors for example students need to walk through, armed police. We also see a disproportionate a te of discipline and punishment for those students in those schools. So again, it is e sort of you know, intention to protect students can actually make the feel left safe at school. Katrina, are schools, parents even, ready, adapt inat deteanxiety . Like unmanageable anxiety in students . I think this is a really tricky issue because anxiety can look like a t of things. For example, it looks like procraliination. Ar look poor time management. So you can imagine as a parent of a high school student, you are just yothinking, do homework. Why are you starting your homework . But really might be they cant. There really struggling to thev pupencil to paper. They are avoiding it because they know they are going to be having a really hard time with a. So i think lothe psycsts i talked to really emphasized trying to have a collaborative approach wibe your kid, g curious about what is going on. Rather than just jumping to the conclusion of your lazy and urn doing homework, try to say what is going on, why are you feeling this way. Together maybe we n come up with some solutions and strategies to handle the anxiety. The same goes with teachers as well. Anxiety can look like, you know, defiance. Ound in class. E st messing it is very hard to see these things correctly identified. I know you were a teacher in the Oakland Unified School district for a while. One of the issues that i know is on the minds of students and parents and iseven teachers the fact that some schools may be closing. Is this something that you think is contributing to anxiety . Certainly in the district this a vehot spot. The, there has been a recommendation by a stated sanctirganization to close up to 24 schools in the e near future. Strict is takie. A slower approach that. The d ideas to put more resources into fewer schools, but thprocess by which schools are being slated to close is fairly opaque and has raised a lot of anxiety for , studenrents and teachers. Katrina, you mentioned a Wellness Center and a program atel Cerrito High School. Sothat offers me hope that schools are trying to figure out what they can do about this, but what other e resource t there . At Cerrito High School for example the talked about making the passing periods a little bit longer so students werent quite so rushed between classes. Or moving to hea black le were stints only have four classes per semester instead of seven. Fewer things to worry about. Just e ncentrate on thfew. There are macro ways. In addition, there do things like running anxiety groups to make sure th students don feel alone, that they know there are other ggpeople struling with this, and they are getting strategies for how tonage. Cohost of kqed mind shift podcasts and a professor at Uc Berkeley Graduate School ofk education, thu very much to you both. To hear more of the intervw with students about their struggles with anxiety, go kqed. Org. In the north pole a web series streaming on youtube, Benny Ramirez and his for Three Friends face challenges and forge crtive solutions as they navigate life in north oaklan their joury is both humorous and poignant, pushed and pulled by timely struggles ranging from gentrification to Climate Change and immigration in tia polly polarized america. Actor Rosario Dawson serves as arecutive producer and in the upcoming Second Season. Joining me now are the north pole director, cowriter and cocreator and sota go rosa who plays s betty. Welcome. For people who are just learning about the north pole, what is this series and what inspired it . I would call it a amthe. Very comedic approach to very dramatic issues facing all of us today. It follows forming characters, three locals from north they deal with w in the first season gentrification, jobs versus health, all these things are affecting r community. Anthe metaphor of the show is really, when i was growing up to and going high school oakland, in the bay area, that neighborhood, North Oakland was called the north pole. Was a hihop song that my peers were calling each other polar bears. So since we addressed a lot of climate ange also on r show, that is the main metaphor, the locals of this neighborhood are being bears are being displaced in the north pole. That is what we play with a little bit. W. I wiconfess i moved to North Oakland three years ago from another part of california, and this was whd i starworking at kqed. I had no idea that it was actually called the north pole, the people who had been ther for long time were called polar bears. I cant be called a polar bear, but i actuallywothink this d be a good moment to show a clip of santiago rosa in action as betty since he is acoually talking abt polar bears in this clip. Please brother the polar bears. Excuse me madam. Glutenfree, dairy free, organically commerce. Are planets most majestic creatures are under attack. Save the polar bears. Save the environment. Saver sales. Do the donations go tot suppe arctic penguins tweak the actually piglets are found in at that to get down on the sell side. Dont have them up north, bulucky for you, we got love for both in this program. Thats great. You must be having a blast. How did you t this part and what drew you to it . You know, first of all i d heabout the gig on sf casting, a local for actors. When i heard about it, it was right upmy alley because it talkusa lot about social justice. It talks a lot about issues that, for me, are familiar. I studied at Arizona State university and got a degree in sosocial justice, and as an actor whenever you work on a project that stands for something, it is a nobrainer. So for me, wheni heard about what they were talkg about, what the message was, i had to audition for it. In the audition process was awesome. I went in there and just was myself, and i had a lot of fun doing it. It was mentioned this is a dramedy, comic situations a issues. A very very serious i wondif you work hard to avoid caricare. Stereotypes, very tempting in a situation when youre trying to make comedy. Is this something as an actor youre workird to avoid . You know why . Im very grateful for my training. I studied acting here in San Francisco. One of the things that they really stress is just uth. For me, whatever i work on a roll, it is not about making a character, it is bout making a h fored character. It is about being real, just like us. If you think about it, like you are creating a human being. And just like, you know, human beings are all complex people. You know, so we laugh and cry, and for , it definitely was about the truth, the truth of tr the situation, thh of what is really going eout th in the world. So for me, like, it was just an opportunity to, you know, help guide the story and be as honest and truthful as possible. Can i ask you as the director and cocreator, is avoidi oicaricature important in conceptualizing and building the show . Absolutely. Is it harder when youre depicting people you disagree with. People you think are the target of a lot la her cots. Definitely. I think it is about humanizing these stories. Also attracted folks to experience the show who might i totally agree about everytng. So i think showing complexity, th for those th you disagree with and also the show features folks of color. I think a lot of times you start see moand more in film, folks of color acting performing, but theyre usually onedimensional or two you know, we tried to display that we are humans, and we can go from being really intellectual and will moment to switching and being something goofy ofand playful or more aggressive. Obligated characters. One of the executive producers of the north pole is actually a nonprofit called movement generation. Who are they, and wh do they bring to a production like this . It is a very abunique coation. I thk very few filmmakers hae ever experienced this collaboration with a nonprofit creating a fictional work. At they bring is a story matters. In order to change the we have to have people really involved and af. Ople that are and more to practical terms, lets say we were talking in the Second Season where il dressingires as a subtext, and so, as creators we are like, n okay, this happen, whatever we come with up, storylines weeping to them and they address, t this is that realistic. Would be more practical for us ilding. N Actual Movement its a collaboration in the Creative Process to make it actually have a life outside of the screen. To actual really be eful for people in grassroots timovements. So, youre not from oakland. Yvonne, you went to sch oakland. A character. In e show tobe it is not just taking place in oakland, but is it a character in yo mind thatplays a part in the show . Absolutely. Not just in wh you see, but the energy of oakland really pushes and pulls these characters to e react to world around them. You know, we have an actual polar bear in the show. The spirit animal of this neighborhood. And so, i think and a t of my work, oakland definitely with its history of social justice, you know, if something happens ththe country, sday march in oakland. There is a gathering. And musically in terms of the arts, oakland actually deadly av has a that we are projecting in the show. Yvonne saand iago, participants, prucers, actors in the north pole show. Thanks very much for joining me. Season 2 of the north pole premier september 10. Until then, you can catch up on season number one, and it is worth a. Threaming noorthpoleshow. Com but that will do it for us. As always, you can find more of our coverage on kqed. Org. Thanks fojoining us. Captioning sponsored by wnet sreenivasan on this edition for sunday, august 25 world leheers gather in france for g7 summit. A look into findings from the d. E. A. Opioid database. And an authors exploration of conflict through food. Next on pbs newshour weekend. Pbs newshour weekend is made possible by bernard and irene schwartz. 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