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Sexual relationship with a 19yearold interhas offlimit offlimits. Chris will congress to crack down on its own holes . We will ask mia love. And we will bring in our sunday panel to ask if a wave of new charges will change the atmosphere on capitol hill. Plus, the house passes its tax bill. From the very start with of the failure is not an option. Chris we will discuss the prospects in the senate with treasury secretary Steven Mnuchin. Its a Fox News Sunday exclusive. And our power player of the week, the youngest woman ever elected to congress. I do think institutionally congress benefits from having new members and new ideas. Chris all right now now on Fox News Sunday. And hello again from fox news in washington. From hollywood to the media and now the halls of congress, Sexual Harassment is front and center as a political issue. First with the allegations facing Alabama Senate candidate judge roy moore, and now against others are al franken from his time as a comedian in 2006. We will discuss the charges and whether congress will finally crackdown on itself with senator tim scott of South Carolina and utah congresswoman mia love. But we begin with fox news correspondent peter doocy reporting from alabama. If there are legislative aftershocks shaking senator al franken, whose immediate apology for Sexual Misconduct was not enough for a rape victim who was working with him to help future assault victims. Abby penned a Washington Post op ed to save he wrote a bill to help rape survivors like me. Minnesotas other senator Amy Klobuchar has artie signed on to sponsor. Not all democrats are distancing themselves. Hillary clinton appreciates that he said sorry. Look at the contrast between al franken accepting responsibility, apologizing, and roy moore and donald trump, who have done neither. In alabama, republican Senate Candidate judge roy moore denies charges for all my women accusing him of decadesold wrongdoing. Hes challenging a High School Yearbook one of the victim says proves her story. And is lashing out. It would become the party of roy moore and donald trump, we are toast. Moore Campaign Advisor responded Mitch Mcconnell and jeff flake are agents of destruction within the republican party. The Editorial Board for alabamas three largest papers sites Sexual Misconduct allegations is the primary reason for their endorsement of doug jones. Meanwhile, the surgeon jones is trying to focus on issues to engineer and upset. I thought he was disqualified long before the schema. We are told the democrat jones will have about one event a day this week. As for roy moore, we have no idea when his next public rally will be. It seems to of the politicians with the least to say about the scandal in alabama are the two Senate Candidates in alabama. Chris peter doocy reporting from birmingham, alabama, thanks for that. Joining me now from salt lake city, utah, republican congresswoman mia love. Congresswoman, i want to start with a comment this week by one of your colleagues in the house, congresswoman Barbara Comstock coming here she has. The young woman went there and was greeted with a member in a towel. He then invited her in. At that point he decided to expose himself. She left and then she quit her job. Chris congresswoman, how serious a problem is there with Sexual Harassment in congress, and if you can tell us, have you or any of your staffers been a victim . I can tell you this is been going on for a very long time and im glad that people are speaking out about it. Its important to speak out about it nationally, and also locally and in our homes. I have two girls that im racing, one is going off to college and its important that we have we are comfortable having Uncomfortable Conversations so that we can protect our young women and protect women in the work space. Chris lets talk about your work space, because it turns out that congress has protected itself with a much more challenging, much more cumbersome process then we see in the private sector. I want to put this up, i think people will be surprised. Victim who claims Sexual Harassment Congress Must wait three months to file a complaint. At first submit to 30 days of counseling and another 30 days of mediation, then wait another 30 days to seek a hearing, and congresswoman, it gets even worse than that, because if there is a settlement, its paid for by taxpayers, not by the individual member of congress. Is this another case of the Old Boys Club network on capitol hill protecting itself . Is the only woman in the utah delegation, i have a little bit of a problem with that. Our office has made sure that they have taken all of the antiSexual Harassment training and i let out on that taking it myself. I think we need some leadership. We need people that are out there talking about this and talking about how situations like this, behavior like this is absolutely appropriate. I would also like to say one more thing. I think its important that we, especially the things that are going on out there, that this is not being politicized, its not being used for personal gain, because we normalize the situation if and when that happens. We have to make sure that we are not going out there doing anything that is going to further victimize people who have actually been hurt and humiliated by Sexual Harassment and Sexual Misconduct. Chris let me ask you about to specific cases, do you believe that judge roy moore, the candidate in the special Senate Election in alabama should step aside from that race to let a rightin candidate hold title pull that seat, and what you think should happen to senator al franken after the allegations against him this week . Im calling them all on the carpet. Thank all of them should take responsibility for their behavior. When you think about al franken and to think about judge moore, you think about all the situations, they are all different, and they all deserve due process and the people need to be able to have time to talk about them and process it. We certainly arent going to be able to do that today and 7 minutes on the sunday show, but i think its important that we end up talking about it, getting comfortable, having Uncomfortable Conversations and saying that this type of behavior is unacceptable. Chris let me ask you about one other person and whether or not he should be held accountable, and that is President Trump, who has had very little to say about the judge roy moore case, but when it comes to al franken in that picture he weighed in on that, the picture of franken appearing to grope his accuser. If the president sent out this week. The al frankens which is really bad. Export of his hands go and pictures two, three, four, five and six while she sleeps . On the other hand, while reporters noted that while President Trumps basis own allegation about him allegedly groping them, heres what a spokeswoman said. I think in one case specifically senator franken has admitted wrongdoing and the president hasnt. I think is a very clear distinction. Chris does that satisfy you, the fact that President Trump has denied the allegations . Again, all of these situations are completely different. I think people need to take responsibility for their actions, not just in the future, but also in the past. Im not qualified, nor is it appropriate for us to process, prosecute judge and sentence in the 7 minutes that we have here. But i think it is important that we all speak out, and we prevent these things from happening. This is about looking towards the future and making sure that women are empowered and no longer victimized. That people, if they are experiencing situations in the office that make them uncomfortable, that they feel empowered that they can actually speak out to stop the behavior. Chris congresswoman love, thank you, thank you for your time. Thank you. Chris now to republican senator tim scott. Lets start with your colleague al franken, was accused of forcibly kissing and groping leanne. Should the Senate Discipline or even perhaps expel senator franken . Senator scott we certainly should start the process in the investigation as has been suggested and i think started by senator mcconnell. This is the right starting point. All Sexual Harassment is inexcusable, everybody should be punished at the same level. Chris on the other hand, people note that the Senate Ethics committee has never expelled any member for actions taken before they were senator, so some people are saying you put in before the Senate Ethics committee and thats where these charges go away to die. Senator scott i completely disagree with that. This is a brandnew era. The last time someone was expelled was the civil war. The reality of it is that we should take responsibility. Im a big believer according to the good book that all folks in leadership are held to a higher standard, and we will hold our members to a higher standard, thats a fact, and i look forward to the outcome of the investigation. Chris i want to ask about the standards you feel should apply to judge roy moore. If you have been on the record saying if the charges are true you should step away, but realistically we may never know whether or not the charges are true, and we almost certainly are not going to know before the special election on december 12th. Let me ask you a direct question, do you think that judge moore should step aside and let a republican right in candidate try to hold onto the seat . I want to be very clear, the allegations are stronger than the denial and roy moore should find Something Else to do, which is my way of suggesting that he should not be in a race. Chris so you think you should step down at this point . I certainly think that theres a strong possibility that the new candidate, a new republican candidate, improving conservative, that we can win that race in alabama and its the best interest of the country in the state of alabama for my perspective for roy moore to find Something Else to do. Chris let me ask you about judge moore, because he says that these accusations against him are really about the senate establishment, the elite trying to keep down and take away a representative in his case of the grassroots. Here is judge moore. This is an effort by Mitch Mcconnell and his cronies to steal his election from the people of alabama and they will not stand for it. Chris in your view, is this controversy about judge moores behavior, or is it a political power play by the Washington Post and senator mcconnell . Senator scott this controversy is over the necessity of respecting women, period. Our response to Sexual Harassment should be as aggressive as possible. The reality of it is when you look at those conservative lawmakers in the senate who have withdrawn their support of judge moore, thats a clear signal that this has nothing to do with the establishment republican or politics. It has to do with the character that we want displayed in the United States of america and especially in our recouped ohmic leadership. Chris let me ask about what i just discussed with congresswoman love, because the rules for a Sexual Harassment victim are really pretty challenging in congress. They have to go through a 90 day period. If theres a settlement, its paid for by the taxpayers, not by the member. Does Congress Need to get its own house in order here . Senator scott according to the rules that you laid out, the answer is yes. In my office, my chief of staff, she and i sat down and had a conversation at the beginning of my term within our employees manual how to respond if you feel harassed. You dont have to go to her supervisor, you can go to any supervisor in the office, including my chief of staff. She believes the best way for us to make sure that the employees can work with in our office are as safe and as comfortable as possible. They dont flow through a specific person or through may, but a ghost or anybody that they are most comparable talking with. I think that policy being adopted by the entire senate and we accelerate the process and hold each member accountable and responsible for their actions. Not at taxpayers expense, but individual expense, it only makes sense. Chris let me turn to reform. The senate is going to take it up after thanksgiving. I want to ask you a specific area of it. How do you justify that in the Senate Tax Bill as passed by the Senate Finance committee, it keeps the tax cuts for corporations permanent, but the tax cuts for individuals expire in eight years . Senator scott good news is that if we are able to lower the highest Corporate Tax rate in the world from 35 to 20 and make it permanent, the jobs of the future will be created here at home. Giving people tax breaks for one euro ten years on their individual taxes is a success. If we can make it permanent are friends of the left can help us get there, i hope and look forward to them becoming a part of this process. Chris finally, one senator, republican senator ron johnson has already said he is against the bill, as you know a number of others have issues with it. His tax reform had at the way of obamacare . You have a very narrow margin for error in the senate on this. Senator scott the good news is its not. The reality of it is that ron johnsons concerns are legitimate concerns. I think we can deal with them. Theres editorial recently in the wall street journal that gives us direction on the get that accomplished. Other senators have talked about the importance between the pastors. We can get close, and i think we will get a little closer and we will have a full team on display in december bringing a Christmas Present to the american people, allowing them to keep more of their hardearned money. Chris senator scott, thank you, thanks for joining us. Always good to talk with you. Senator scott thank you, chris. Chris up next we will bring in our sunday group to discuss the moore and franken scandals. As well as no questions about whether bill clinton should have resigned over the lewinsky affair. D real time inventory. Virtual changing rooms. Thats why retailers rely on comcast business to deliver consistent Network Speed across multiple locations. Every corporate office, warehouse and store near or far covered. Leaving every competitor, threat and challenge outmaneuvered. Comcast business outmaneuver. [ click ] [ keyboard clacking ] [ clacking continues ] good questions lead to good answers. Our advisors can help you find both. Talk to one today and see why were bullish on the future. Yours. Talk to one today and see why were bullish on the future. What if we could keep more amof what we earn . D. Trillions of dollars going back to taxpayers. Who could possibly be against that . Well, the National Debt is 20 trillion. As we keep adding to it, guess who pays the bill . Him. And her. And her. Congress, we should grow the economy. Not the debt. Im the only one that can unite democrats and republicans. [laughter] because i think i will be opposed by both. Before i know what he put his hand on the back of my head and he forced me and matched his face against my mouth and stuck his tongue in my mouth. Chris Alabama Senate candidate roy moore trying to save his campaign while broadcaster leanne makes allegations against democratic senator al franken. Its time now for our sunday group. Former republican congressman jason chaffetz. Columnist for the hill, juan williams. Had director of research at bussell, Jessica Tarlov. And jason riley from the wall street journal. Congressman, what are your thoughts about the problems with Sexual Harassment in general, on capitol hill in particular, and i have to say as i started this week, i am shocked at the rules that members of congress, as you used to be, and have implemented to protect yourselves from sexual. Its absolutely disgusting. Theres always somebody doing something stupid, but the woman should not have to go through that process as you laid out when it happens in congress. Maybe the best avenues just go directly to the police because theres a Legal Process by getting prosecutors and the law involved and i think the victims ought to have the loudest voice on that. But politically, i do believe that those decisions made by the people in alabama or minnesota. I think its very presumptuous for the majority leader to save we are going to work to kick you out when youre dealing with the same fact pattern. The people in alabama and minnesota can make those decisions. Chris let me ask about that, should this just be left in the case, particularly of alabama because judge moore faces a special election in this couple of weeks. Leave it to them . I think upholding our democracy is the most important issue a player, but especially considering whats going on in the last couple of years, the allegations in the political world and the media and entertainment world and what an important topic Steven Mnuchin<\/a>. Its a Fox News Sunday<\/a> exclusive. And our power player of the week, the youngest woman ever elected to congress. I do think institutionally congress benefits from having new members and new ideas. Chris all right now now on Fox News Sunday<\/a>. And hello again from fox news in washington. From hollywood to the media and now the halls of congress, Sexual Harassment<\/a> is front and center as a political issue. First with the allegations facing Alabama Senate<\/a> candidate judge roy moore, and now against others are al franken from his time as a comedian in 2006. We will discuss the charges and whether congress will finally crackdown on itself with senator tim scott of South Carolina<\/a> and utah congresswoman mia love. But we begin with fox news correspondent peter doocy reporting from alabama. If there are legislative aftershocks shaking senator al franken, whose immediate apology for Sexual Misconduct<\/a> was not enough for a rape victim who was working with him to help future assault victims. Abby penned a Washington Post<\/a> op ed to save he wrote a bill to help rape survivors like me. Minnesotas other senator Amy Klobuchar<\/a> has artie signed on to sponsor. Not all democrats are distancing themselves. Hillary clinton appreciates that he said sorry. Look at the contrast between al franken accepting responsibility, apologizing, and roy moore and donald trump, who have done neither. In alabama, republican Senate Candidate<\/a> judge roy moore denies charges for all my women accusing him of decadesold wrongdoing. Hes challenging a High School Yearbook<\/a> one of the victim says proves her story. And is lashing out. It would become the party of roy moore and donald trump, we are toast. Moore Campaign Advisor<\/a> responded Mitch Mcconnell<\/a> and jeff flake are agents of destruction within the republican party. The Editorial Board<\/a> for alabamas three largest papers sites Sexual Misconduct<\/a> allegations is the primary reason for their endorsement of doug jones. Meanwhile, the surgeon jones is trying to focus on issues to engineer and upset. I thought he was disqualified long before the schema. We are told the democrat jones will have about one event a day this week. As for roy moore, we have no idea when his next public rally will be. It seems to of the politicians with the least to say about the scandal in alabama are the two Senate Candidate<\/a>s in alabama. Chris peter doocy reporting from birmingham, alabama, thanks for that. Joining me now from salt lake city, utah, republican congresswoman mia love. Congresswoman, i want to start with a comment this week by one of your colleagues in the house, congresswoman Barbara Comstock<\/a> coming here she has. The young woman went there and was greeted with a member in a towel. He then invited her in. At that point he decided to expose himself. She left and then she quit her job. Chris congresswoman, how serious a problem is there with Sexual Harassment<\/a> in congress, and if you can tell us, have you or any of your staffers been a victim . I can tell you this is been going on for a very long time and im glad that people are speaking out about it. Its important to speak out about it nationally, and also locally and in our homes. I have two girls that im racing, one is going off to college and its important that we have we are comfortable having Uncomfortable Conversations<\/a> so that we can protect our young women and protect women in the work space. Chris lets talk about your work space, because it turns out that congress has protected itself with a much more challenging, much more cumbersome process then we see in the private sector. I want to put this up, i think people will be surprised. Victim who claims Sexual Harassment<\/a> Congress Must<\/a> wait three months to file a complaint. At first submit to 30 days of counseling and another 30 days of mediation, then wait another 30 days to seek a hearing, and congresswoman, it gets even worse than that, because if there is a settlement, its paid for by taxpayers, not by the individual member of congress. Is this another case of the Old Boys Club<\/a> network on capitol hill protecting itself . Is the only woman in the utah delegation, i have a little bit of a problem with that. Our office has made sure that they have taken all of the antiSexual Harassment<\/a> training and i let out on that taking it myself. I think we need some leadership. We need people that are out there talking about this and talking about how situations like this, behavior like this is absolutely appropriate. I would also like to say one more thing. I think its important that we, especially the things that are going on out there, that this is not being politicized, its not being used for personal gain, because we normalize the situation if and when that happens. We have to make sure that we are not going out there doing anything that is going to further victimize people who have actually been hurt and humiliated by Sexual Harassment<\/a> and Sexual Misconduct<\/a>. Chris let me ask you about to specific cases, do you believe that judge roy moore, the candidate in the special Senate Election<\/a> in alabama should step aside from that race to let a rightin candidate hold title pull that seat, and what you think should happen to senator al franken after the allegations against him this week . Im calling them all on the carpet. Thank all of them should take responsibility for their behavior. When you think about al franken and to think about judge moore, you think about all the situations, they are all different, and they all deserve due process and the people need to be able to have time to talk about them and process it. We certainly arent going to be able to do that today and 7 minutes on the sunday show, but i think its important that we end up talking about it, getting comfortable, having Uncomfortable Conversations<\/a> and saying that this type of behavior is unacceptable. Chris let me ask you about one other person and whether or not he should be held accountable, and that is President Trump<\/a>, who has had very little to say about the judge roy moore case, but when it comes to al franken in that picture he weighed in on that, the picture of franken appearing to grope his accuser. If the president sent out this week. The al frankens which is really bad. Export of his hands go and pictures two, three, four, five and six while she sleeps . On the other hand, while reporters noted that while President Trump<\/a>s basis own allegation about him allegedly groping them, heres what a spokeswoman said. I think in one case specifically senator franken has admitted wrongdoing and the president hasnt. I think is a very clear distinction. Chris does that satisfy you, the fact that President Trump<\/a> has denied the allegations . Again, all of these situations are completely different. I think people need to take responsibility for their actions, not just in the future, but also in the past. Im not qualified, nor is it appropriate for us to process, prosecute judge and sentence in the 7 minutes that we have here. But i think it is important that we all speak out, and we prevent these things from happening. This is about looking towards the future and making sure that women are empowered and no longer victimized. That people, if they are experiencing situations in the office that make them uncomfortable, that they feel empowered that they can actually speak out to stop the behavior. Chris congresswoman love, thank you, thank you for your time. Thank you. Chris now to republican senator tim scott. Lets start with your colleague al franken, was accused of forcibly kissing and groping leanne. Should the Senate Discipline<\/a> or even perhaps expel senator franken . Senator scott we certainly should start the process in the investigation as has been suggested and i think started by senator mcconnell. This is the right starting point. All Sexual Harassment<\/a> is inexcusable, everybody should be punished at the same level. Chris on the other hand, people note that the Senate Ethics<\/a> committee has never expelled any member for actions taken before they were senator, so some people are saying you put in before the Senate Ethics<\/a> committee and thats where these charges go away to die. Senator scott i completely disagree with that. This is a brandnew era. The last time someone was expelled was the civil war. The reality of it is that we should take responsibility. Im a big believer according to the good book that all folks in leadership are held to a higher standard, and we will hold our members to a higher standard, thats a fact, and i look forward to the outcome of the investigation. Chris i want to ask about the standards you feel should apply to judge roy moore. If you have been on the record saying if the charges are true you should step away, but realistically we may never know whether or not the charges are true, and we almost certainly are not going to know before the special election on december 12th. Let me ask you a direct question, do you think that judge moore should step aside and let a republican right in candidate try to hold onto the seat . I want to be very clear, the allegations are stronger than the denial and roy moore should find Something Else<\/a> to do, which is my way of suggesting that he should not be in a race. Chris so you think you should step down at this point . I certainly think that theres a strong possibility that the new candidate, a new republican candidate, improving conservative, that we can win that race in alabama and its the best interest of the country in the state of alabama for my perspective for roy moore to find Something Else<\/a> to do. Chris let me ask you about judge moore, because he says that these accusations against him are really about the senate establishment, the elite trying to keep down and take away a representative in his case of the grassroots. Here is judge moore. This is an effort by Mitch Mcconnell<\/a> and his cronies to steal his election from the people of alabama and they will not stand for it. Chris in your view, is this controversy about judge moores behavior, or is it a political power play by the Washington Post<\/a> and senator mcconnell . Senator scott this controversy is over the necessity of respecting women, period. Our response to Sexual Harassment<\/a> should be as aggressive as possible. The reality of it is when you look at those conservative lawmakers in the senate who have withdrawn their support of judge moore, thats a clear signal that this has nothing to do with the establishment republican or politics. It has to do with the character that we want displayed in the United States<\/a> of america and especially in our recouped ohmic leadership. Chris let me ask about what i just discussed with congresswoman love, because the rules for a Sexual Harassment<\/a> victim are really pretty challenging in congress. They have to go through a 90 day period. If theres a settlement, its paid for by the taxpayers, not by the member. Does Congress Need<\/a> to get its own house in order here . Senator scott according to the rules that you laid out, the answer is yes. In my office, my chief of staff, she and i sat down and had a conversation at the beginning of my term within our employees manual how to respond if you feel harassed. You dont have to go to her supervisor, you can go to any supervisor in the office, including my chief of staff. She believes the best way for us to make sure that the employees can work with in our office are as safe and as comfortable as possible. They dont flow through a specific person or through may, but a ghost or anybody that they are most comparable talking with. I think that policy being adopted by the entire senate and we accelerate the process and hold each member accountable and responsible for their actions. Not at taxpayers expense, but individual expense, it only makes sense. Chris let me turn to reform. The senate is going to take it up after thanksgiving. I want to ask you a specific area of it. How do you justify that in the Senate Tax Bill<\/a> as passed by the Senate Finance<\/a> committee, it keeps the tax cuts for corporations permanent, but the tax cuts for individuals expire in eight years . Senator scott good news is that if we are able to lower the highest Corporate Tax<\/a> rate in the world from 35 to 20 and make it permanent, the jobs of the future will be created here at home. Giving people tax breaks for one euro ten years on their individual taxes is a success. If we can make it permanent are friends of the left can help us get there, i hope and look forward to them becoming a part of this process. Chris finally, one senator, republican senator ron johnson has already said he is against the bill, as you know a number of others have issues with it. His tax reform had at the way of obamacare . You have a very narrow margin for error in the senate on this. Senator scott the good news is its not. The reality of it is that ron johnsons concerns are legitimate concerns. I think we can deal with them. Theres editorial recently in the wall street journal that gives us direction on the get that accomplished. Other senators have talked about the importance between the pastors. We can get close, and i think we will get a little closer and we will have a full team on display in december bringing a Christmas Present<\/a> to the american people, allowing them to keep more of their hardearned money. Chris senator scott, thank you, thanks for joining us. Always good to talk with you. Senator scott thank you, chris. Chris up next we will bring in our sunday group to discuss the moore and franken scandals. As well as no questions about whether bill clinton should have resigned over the lewinsky affair. D real time inventory. Virtual changing rooms. Thats why retailers rely on comcast business to deliver consistent Network Speed<\/a> across multiple locations. Every corporate office, warehouse and store near or far covered. Leaving every competitor, threat and challenge outmaneuvered. Comcast business outmaneuver. [ click ] [ keyboard clacking ] [ clacking continues ] good questions lead to good answers. Our advisors can help you find both. Talk to one today and see why were bullish on the future. Yours. Talk to one today and see why were bullish on the future. What if we could keep more amof what we earn . D. Trillions of dollars going back to taxpayers. Who could possibly be against that . Well, the National Debt<\/a> is 20 trillion. As we keep adding to it, guess who pays the bill . Him. And her. And her. Congress, we should grow the economy. Not the debt. Im the only one that can unite democrats and republicans. [laughter] because i think i will be opposed by both. Before i know what he put his hand on the back of my head and he forced me and matched his face against my mouth and stuck his tongue in my mouth. Chris Alabama Senate<\/a> candidate roy moore trying to save his campaign while broadcaster leanne makes allegations against democratic senator al franken. Its time now for our sunday group. Former republican congressman jason chaffetz. Columnist for the hill, juan williams. Had director of research at bussell, Jessica Tarlov<\/a>. And jason riley from the wall street journal. Congressman, what are your thoughts about the problems with Sexual Harassment<\/a> in general, on capitol hill in particular, and i have to say as i started this week, i am shocked at the rules that members of congress, as you used to be, and have implemented to protect yourselves from sexual. Its absolutely disgusting. Theres always somebody doing something stupid, but the woman should not have to go through that process as you laid out when it happens in congress. Maybe the best avenues just go directly to the police because theres a Legal Process<\/a> by getting prosecutors and the law involved and i think the victims ought to have the loudest voice on that. But politically, i do believe that those decisions made by the people in alabama or minnesota. I think its very presumptuous for the majority leader to save we are going to work to kick you out when youre dealing with the same fact pattern. The people in alabama and minnesota can make those decisions. Chris let me ask about that, should this just be left in the case, particularly of alabama because judge moore faces a special election in this couple of weeks. Leave it to them . I think upholding our democracy is the most important issue a player, but especially considering whats going on in the last couple of years, the allegations in the political world and the media and entertainment world and what an important topic Sexual Harassment<\/a> is for america generally that people like Mitch Mcconnell<\/a>, people like cory gardner need to stand up and take a stand on Something Like<\/a> this and say this is unacceptable behavior, and we dont want it here with us. And theres no place for it in washington. Im torn about it. Obviously the voters will get their chance to vote for roy moore if they want, but there should be a candidate on the ballot on the republican side who has not been accused of child molestation. Chris let me ask you, because this is obviously a difficult conversation, but its an important conversation. On the other hand, i wonder to some degree are we mixing up misdemeanors and felonies . You got the case of al franken who allegedly forcibly kissed this woman and groped her, which is clearly piggish behavior. On the other hand, its different from the allegations against roy moore, who, as you pointed out, allegedly was having sexual contact with a 14yearold girl. Should they all be career enters . I dont think so personally. I think that having that nuanced discussion is what we need to do at this point. There was a good piece that came out in the New York Post<\/a> about this that said that Harvey Weinsteins<\/a> picture should not be next to al frankens picture. Roy moores picture should not be next to the guy from amazon, for instance. Chris people are going to say maybe you are protecting. Its not because of political affiliation. Revisiting bill clinton and what happened in the 90s and democrats are certainly taking that up right now, but we need to be clear about the strength of these allegations and how important they are and what roy moore did versus what al franken did. Chris lets talk about proclinton because that was a really Interesting Development<\/a> this week, the reassessment of bill clintons affair with Monica Lewinsky<\/a> back when clinton was president. Senator from new york sits in Hillary Clintons<\/a> seat says that under current standards bill clinton should have resigned. Mrs. Clinton says no, take a look. Yes. I think that is the appropriate response, but i think things have changed today and i think under those circumstances there should be a very different reaction. This was a painful time not only in our marriage, but in our country as i have written about. But it was investigated fully, it was addressed at the time. Chris jason, pretty interesting that Kirsten Gillibrand<\/a>, who is thinking of running for president on the democratic side in 2020, went there. This is pure political expediency. This is not about principle. This is clear. It seems to me that if you are a prochoice wealth of redistributionist you can also be a grover and get a pass from both of the women you play clips from. Hillary clinton is also partially defending al franken because of how he has responded to the charges against him versus how President Trump<\/a> has responded. If you have the senator from new york essentially saying we live in different times. This is a woman who has associated herself with the clinton family, with mrs. Clinton in particular. Has the seat mrs. Clinton once held, and i think this is not about principle at all. This is about taking advantage of the current chris what you think the political expediency is an Kirsten Gillibrand<\/a> going after bill clinton out . Its not fashionable, its not acceptable. She pays no political cost for doing so. Chris she plays a little bit of political cost, let me bring this up with you, juan. A longtime aide to Hillary Clinton<\/a> blasted her for what she said. He tweeted this. Over 20 years, youve took clintons endorsements, money and seat. A hypocrite. Interesting strategy for 2020 primaries, best of luck. This issue of Sexual Harassment<\/a> is not only spotting republicans, roy moore and Mitch Mcconnell<\/a>, its also spotting democrats. And the power here is the charge of hypocrisy. I think thats why clinton bill clinton comes to the floor so quickly because the charge would be democrats, have you been as tough on your sexual harassers as you are asking republicans to be on theres. Immediately you are seeing pieces in the New York Times<\/a> coming forward as a democratic congressman who said clinton should have been ousted. I think one of the keys for me is democrats wanting to say that we retained some moral authority in speaking on this issue as republicans try to impose. But i think at times, as you and Jessica Tarlov<\/a> were discussing, a false equivalency between roy moore and even bill clinton. I just think that at the moment the politics chris i can understand the difference, the distinction between more and franken. How is there a distinction between more . Monica lewinsky was an intern, a young person and there was a huge power difference, no one was suggesting that she was beneath the age of consent. Im just saying in the one that he was impeached for, because he was impeached. Chris he was impeached for lying. He was impeached for lying about this issue and i think that its very for people, part of the response was no answer dollars were spent investigating and impeaching this man and now you have a situation here where some people, including roy moore, who want to point at Mitch Mcconnell<\/a> and claim that there is a republican, much less democrats or the elite media from washington trying to tell the voters of alabama what to do. The bill clinton situation happened while he was in office and then lied about it. The president of the United States<\/a>. I do think im glad that we are elevating the debate. Im glad that this is becoming totally unacceptable on both sides, and there should be a huge and massive political price, if not essentially the Death Penalty<\/a> for people who engage in this, they cannot serve at the highest levels of government. A political Death Penalty<\/a>. For a political Death Penalty<\/a>, which is why should we put up with anybody serving at the highest level of government to engage in this, whether its 40 years ago or whether it happened while you were in office. Chris thank you all. This is going to be continued, no question about it. We will take a break here and we will see a little bit later. Up next, an exclusive interview with treasury secretary Steven Mnuchin<\/a> on whether a g. O. P. Task reform bill that will make it to the president s desk for christmas. Did yon the National Debt<\/a> . Ssman get elected by talking tough will they stay true to their words . Or did they promise you one thing. Only to do another . Right now, congress is talking about tax cuts that will add trillions to our National Debt<\/a> and hurt our economy. Its time to tell congress. Dont borrow more money from china. And leave more debt to our kids. Keep your word. Tax cuts shouldnt add to the National Debt<\/a>. Chris coming up, the house passes a sweeping tax bill. I want to thank the members that made it possible, i want to think the president , his administration. I think our partners in the senate were doing their work as well. Chris but what will happen in the senate . Chris republicans are moving with remarkable speed to pass the biggest overhaul of the u. S. Tax system in three decades. The house approved its plan this week, as did the Senate Finance<\/a> committee. The full senate will debate tax reform after members return from thanksgiving break. The hope is to send a compromise to the president by christmas. Joining us now to discuss the prospects for tax reform is the secretary of the treasury, Steven Mnuchin<\/a>. Mr. Secretary, i want to start with some stomach democratic criticism of the tax plan, in this case by house leader nancy pelosi. Here she is. They throw a scrap to the middle class, provide a banquet for the wealthy and for corporate america. Transform america in doing so. If we will not let that happen. Chris secretary mnuchin, where is congresswoman pelosi wrong . Secretary mnuchin i just find that i fundamentally dont agree with her. This is about making businesses competitive, which is about creating jobs, and this is about a very significant middle income tax cut. Thats what this is all about. Chris well, lets look at the analysis by the bipartisan joint committee on taxation, because heres what they said about the house bill. They say it delivers 80 of its cuts to corporations, businesses, and wealthy familie families. This isnt a democratic partisan, this is congress own joint committee on taxation. Secretary mnuchin chris, these numbers are very complicated, and it depends on how you allocate them. One of the things they are doing is they are taking a pass through allocation which is all about mediumsize businesses, they are allocating it back to the wealthy. Same thing with the Corporate Tax<\/a> cuts. We dont believe that. If you look at this simply, and people look at their personal taxes going up or down, on the personal tax that, middle income people are getting cuts, and rich people are getting very little cuts or in very certain cases increases. Chris let me break that down, because it seems to me its a little bit more complicated than that. Heres one reason why the g. O. P. Tax plan, according to analyst favors the wealthy and corporations. I want to put this up on the screen. In the senate plan, while the Corporate Tax<\/a> cuts are permanent, almost all provisions for individuals including rate cuts and the standard deduction expire, go away at the end of 2025. The result, according to the joint committee on taxation, bike 2027, this is the senate plan, anyone making less than 75,000 will see a tax hike, while those making more than 75,000 will see a tax cut. How do you respond to that . Secretary mnuchin the problem is that under the senate rules, using reconciliation, theres very specific rules. We are changing from an International System<\/a> to a territorial system. We need to make the Corporate Tax<\/a> cuts permanent. You cant tell corporations they are going back to a worldwide system. Because of that, we were forced to phase out the personal tax side, but nobody thinks thats going to be the case. Of Course Congress<\/a> is going to vote down the road to keep these cuts. Its not about allocating cuts to the corporations. Its about we have to fix the business tax side and make it permanent. Chris but isnt it this is what critics are saying isnt it a statement of your priorities . The real reason that you make the individual cuts temporary, and they expire 2025 is otherwise her deficit is going to be too big. Some people say its a budget gimmick, but isnt it a statement of priorities that you made business cuts permanent and the individual cuts temporary . You could have done it exactly the opposite and made the individual cuts permanent and cut back on the business cuts, make them temporary. Secretary mnuchin you cant do that. If you want to fix the business tax system and going from a worldwide system to a territorial system, you cant switch back in ten years. This is all about the role and how we calculate things. This isnt about the deficit, because we think this is all about creating growth, and we will create Economic Growth<\/a> to pay down the deficit. This is technical issues and the senate, and the corporate side is about jobs. This is the tax cut and jobs bill. This is about making american businesses competitive so we can bring jobs back home, and ensure that dollars are invested in the u. S. Chris forgive me, but what youre basically saying is we will make it isnt just a worldwide system. Youre also making the business tax cuts, the reduction in the corporate rate from 35 to 20 . Youre making that permanent, and to talk with great assurance about whats going to happen in 2025. The fact is, you will not be an office in 25. Even if he is elected, donald trump isnt going to be president in 2025. And in any case, the you have no idea what the political situation is going to be lent or what the Economic Situation<\/a> is going to be, and the deficit situation. When you just say of course they will extend it in 2025, you dont know that. Secretary mnuchin i dont know that. Maybe i will be working for president pence at the time, i dont know that. But we think its going to create growth. And we will know by then if this creates growth or not. If it does create growth, we will have an incredible economy and an incredible tax system for businesses and creating huge amounts of jobs. If it doesnt, congress will deal with it at the time. Chris again, not to belabor it, that means, as you say, congress will deal with it at the time, that the tax cuts for individuals, which expire in 2025, may stay expired, may just go away. Secretary mnuchin we have a lot of confidence that congress will do the right thing. Again, the priority for the moment is middle income tax cuts. This is a big cut for the middle income, and it will create jobs and growth. An average family is making 75,000, a family of four, they will get over 1,000 tax cut. This is very significant and its about creating a tax system thats competitive. We have the highest tax system in the world. How can our Companies Compete<\/a> when their taxes are 35 and the rest of the world is in the low 20s. Chris i want to ask about another aspect of the senate bill, the individual mandate. It left the house bill, but the senate bill repeals the individual mandate in obamacare. Some people like it in the senate, some people dont. Susan collins has expressed concern about it. Lisa murkowski has expressed concern about it. Is that a bargaining chip . If you find its costing you more votes than its getting you the new would support taking the individual mandate out . Secretary mnuchin let me first say this is all about getting this past in the senate. Thats the objective. This isnt a bargaining chair. The president thinks we should get rid of it, i think we should get rid of it. Its an unfair tax on poor people. To think that you put a penalty on people who cant afford to buy medical policies is just fundamentally unfair. Thats what this is all about. Chris but it does have a political impact, it wasnt in your original proposal for tax reform. It has been added in afterwards. I guess what im asking is, could you live with it if its taken out . Secretary mnuchin i think right now our objective is to keep it in. It provides a big tax cut for the middle class. It gets rid of the penalty. But we will work with the senate as we go through this. Whats critical here is we have the house to pass the bill. Thats a very big deal. We got it done. We got it out of the finance committee. It will be on the floor right after thanksgiving, we will get something to the president to sign this year. This is all about creating growth in the economy, and you can see whats going on. People out of a lot of confidence in the trump economic plan. You see that in the market, you see that in investing in this is about delivering tax cuts to the american people. Chris you talk about getting it to the president by christmas, i want to pick up on that. I think you would agree right now the republican tax plan is hanging by a thread in the senate. Senator ron johnson of wisconsin has already said that he is a no vote. I know hes persuadable at leas least. Five other republicans are on the fence. You are in danger of losing that alabama seat if roy moore looses in the special election on december 12th. If he stays in the race and doesnt clear the way for a stronger candidate, doesnt that increase the jeopardy for tax reform . Secretary mnuchin are not going to speculate on the race, but what i will tell you is i met with senator corker this week, i met with senator johnson, senator collins. We are having very good discussions with all of them. We want to make sure we incorporate their views, and we are comfortable where we are in this process. This is about having discussions and making sure we get something to the president to sign. Chris finally i have to ask you about something that has gotten a lot of attention this week. You and your wife went this week to the bureau of engraving and printing to check out the first dollar bills with your signature on it, which im sure was exciting. The pictures went viral. Esther secretary, some folks, and im looking at the picture here which you cant see, say that you two look like two villains from a james bond movie. Im sure youve heard that. I guess my question is, what would you thinking . Secretary mnuchin i heard that, i never thought i would be quoted is looking like villains from james bond. I guess i should take that as a compliment that i look like a villain in a great, successful james bond movie. But let me just say, i was very excited of having my signature on the money. Its obviously a great privilege and a great honor and something im very proud of being the secretary and look forward to helping the american people. Chris why, just briefly, did you decide that you and your wife would have fun with the money and take those pictures . Secretary mnuchin again, i didnt realize that the pictures were public and going on the internet and viral. But people have the right to do that. People can express what they want, thats the great thing about social media today. People can say and communicate what they want. Chris and they do. I want to ask about one other aspect of this, because every treasury secretary ive ever known signs their name on the dollar bill. You printed your name on the dollar bill. I know this is a pressing question, but how come . Secretary mnuchin i changed my signature. I had a very, very messy signature that you could barely read. It was very effective at signing things, but i felt since it was going to be on the dollar bill forever i should have a nice clean signature. Chris secretary mnuchin, i think we can all agree, that is a very clean signature. Thank you so much, thanks for your time. We will track development in the senate as they take up tax reform. Secretary mnuchin thanks, chris. Great to be here with you. Chris up next we will bring back our sunday group to discuss what they think the prospects of tax reform. Plus, Hillary Clinton<\/a> is once again questioning the legitimacy of Donald Trumps<\/a> election victory. This tax cut really is not for the middle class, its for the rich. That whole thing about the higher wages, its a good selling point. I will to say to you that i come from the good people and i have been here working my whole stinking career for people who dont have a chance. Chris a Heated Exchange<\/a> between Senate Finance<\/a> Committee Chair<\/a> arun hatch and democratic senator of ohio from who benefits from the republican tax plan. We are back with the panel. Jason, where you think the battle for tax deferral stands right now, how much trouble is it in and the senate and how do you see this playing out . It got to the house. We were expecting that to happen. Now we are where the Health Care Debate<\/a> was. It went over to the senate where it died. Right now there are some concerns. You have a bunch of senators from ron johnson to susan collins, lisa murkowski, john mccain, jeff flake. Very skeptical of what they see right now. Leadership thinks they can be won over and thats what they are trying to do right now. Chris i want to ask you about this case thats being made by democrats. We heard nancy pelosi in that conversation with secretary mnuchin that this is a giveaway for corporations and the wealthy. Interestingly enough, in polls that have been taken so far, you can question how much people know about the details of the bill, not very popular. No. More than 50 . Majority of americans disapprove of the republican tax cuts right now. People want tax reform. I think they want a simpler system. They want to do away with some of these loopholes and deductions that allow especially corporations on the rich to benefit, but people want a simpler system. Weve gone as the republicans try to say, with got to try to do this on a fast track, jam it through, we dont want to much criticism. Its very important roster of a legislative accomplishment. I think youre at the point where republicans are saying just hold her nose, we will see what comes out of the senate. President trump has been back and forth. He even said to democrats dont worry about the house bill. I dont know what that said. This has to go back to the house. Or more than a dozen republicans voted against it, particularly from blue states. Just because the Senate Passes<\/a> a version that doesnt the house will pass. Chris we should point out that the Senate Version<\/a> totally limits the state and local. The house version keeps it for property taxes. It will be interesting to see how they thread the needle here. Let me turn to another subject, the russia investigation, which never seems to go away. This week Hillary Clinton<\/a> continued to question Donald Trumps<\/a> legitimacy, his election to be president. Attorney general Jeff Sessions<\/a> continued to deny that he misled congress. Here they both are. I think that there are lots of questions about his legitimacy, and we dont have a method for contesting that in our system. I will not accept, and reject accusations, that i have ever lied. That is a lie. Chris congressman, where are we on the russia investigation both in the house, the senate and congress . Appearing before the house judiciary was important. It was emphatic that the he had not lied about lying. I still dont see the evidence that the democrats think is there. As long as the face of this is going to be Hillary Clinton<\/a>, i think most of the country is going to get turned off and repulsed by it. Chris what to think about the fact that she once again now shes saying we dont really have a mechanism to do this. President trump is more than a year since the 2016 election. Almost in 2018 and now she is saying we need to give it to an independent commission. He is the president of the United States<\/a>. I know she doesnt like that, i know she wishes it was a different outcome, and shes right. There is no mechanism to do that, but theres nothing to suggest that any of the boats were actually manipulated. That any of the results out of 30 of the 50 states that one for donald trump one have gone a different direction. Chris the other question is whether there was collusion with the russians. Im not saying there is, but thats the other issue. Its a question we have. A special investigator, a special prosecutor who is looking at that, but for Hillary Clinton<\/a> to say the election is in question is laughable, its almost embarrassing. Chris let me ask about that, jessica. I moderated the third president ial debate and if you remember i asked donald trump, will you recognize the legitimacy of the election because he kept saying was raked, and he refused to. Hillary clinton went up and said this was discussed and, we have a tradition, peaceful transfer of power. Does that make it at the very least hypocritical for her not to say im still questioning the election . I think that it does. To jasons point, i agree with you that she should be the face of this, whether she likes it or not or whether a lot of democrats supported her, i was one of her and there were 65 other million americans who did as well. The American Public<\/a> has said we are done with the clintons burn out. That doesnt mean that these points dont need to be made and i think the most important issue that shes raising is that we had an unprecedented intervention by a foreign power into our election, and we need to take stock of that and develop mechanisms to deal with that if it happens again in 2020 and 2024. I think that is really important. Chris in terms of 2016, its interesting, jason, because we keep learning of contacts between the russians and the clinton campaign. Now the Senate Judiciary<\/a> committee, controlled by a republican, chuck grassley, says that Jared Kushner<\/a> did not turn over all the documents, all the records of his contacts. Ive got to say though that when we see these contacts its much more a case of the russians knocking on the door saying hey, would you play with us . Its not hey, we are in cahoots together here. I agree. That does some of what was going on, and it looks like kushner did what he was supposed to do in terms of trying to shut it down. It is a reminder that in addition to the mueller investigation, you do have various committees in Congress Also<\/a> investigating this. This is not going anywhere, and the idea that we are not talking about kushner shows that this is rising up in terms of the importance of people in the administration. We are beyond manafort level, we are now into close aides to the president , even members of his family. Chris we have about 30 seconds left. Youve got kushner, we dont know what manafort is going to say or not, but theyre still mike flynn out there. But you would agree at this point there is no evidence that the russians that the Term Campaign<\/a> play ball with the russians . I dont see any so far, but it would make this point that i think the propaganda effort was substantial, and we continue to see that. Chris by the russians . By the russians in terms of setting various groups in the United States<\/a> against each other. Then you have the very thin margin states like michigan, pennsylvania, wisconsin. Literally thousands of votes that made a difference and i think the propaganda value was substantial. Chris i think its fair to say that is the russians look at it and the fact we are talking about a year later, they got to be happy. Thank you, panel. Up next our power player of the week at the end of a dispiriting few days in american politics, the story of a rising star in the g. O. P. Bringing new ideas and leadership to congress. [ click ] [ keyboard clacking ] [ clacking continues ] good questions lead to good answers. Our advisors can help you find both. Talk to one today and see why were bullish on the future. Yours. Talk to one today and see why were bullish on the future. Retail. Under pressure like never before. And its connected technology thats moving companies forward fast. Ecommerce. Real time inventory. Virtual changing rooms. Thats why retailers rely on comcast business to deliver consistent Network Speed<\/a> across multiple locations. Every corporate office, warehouse and store near or far covered. Leaving every competitor, threat and challenge outmaneuvered. Comcast business outmaneuver. Chris millennials have become the largest segment of our workforce and are quickly becoming the largest segment of u. S. Voters. While they are very negative about washington, one of their own is trying to change that. Heres our power player of the week. I wasnt scared, i wanted to get some accomplishments under my belt. Chris thats Elise Stefanik<\/a> explain why she turned me down for a power player profile for two years ago when at age 30 she became the youngest woman ever elected to congress. I wanted to make sure that my First Impression<\/a> to my colleagues is that i am a workhorse, i invest myself in learning about the policy issues, and i add substantive ideas to the discussion. I rising today in strong support for the National Defense<\/a> authorization act. The when representing upstate new york, stefanik is a member of the house intelligence and Armed Services<\/a> committee. And as a republican, she wrote a change to obamacare that president obama signed. I wrote and passed the largest x to our Health Care Law<\/a> in my first term. We needed new direction. Chris running on the slogan new ideas and new leadership, stefanik campaigned on peoples frustrations with congress. I would ask every group i met with raise your hand if you think washington is broken. Every hand would go up. Chris part of her answer, use technology and transparency to make congress more accountable. I use the example of posting on facebook. Thats using a new tool to reach out directly to constituents and hear back from them on every single issue. That something every Single Member<\/a> should be doing. He went is there any pinch me moments that you are a congresswoman . There are pinch me moments every day. Chris stefanik started in politics a while ago. I ran for Student Council<\/a> secretary in sixth grade and they ran on the platform of bringing a snack machine, and that is very popular. Chris i figure you won. I did. Chris two years in the bush 43 white house on domestic policy. Thats the approach i will bring to washington. Chris fenton 2014 she ran for congress. How much pushback did you get . You are too young, too inexperienced. I got a lot of pushback initially. Very few people took me seriously. Paul ryan was one of the individuals that encouraged me and gave me great advice. You have two ears and one mouth, use it in that ratio. Listen to what their concerns are. Chris stefanik won or swing district by 22 points and laster was reelected by 35 points. Is it true that when you first got here you got stopped a lot . I did. And i still get stopped about once a month going back and forth to the floor to vote. Chris shes not just young, shes a maverick, often bucking the party lines. She voted against the g. O. P. Tax bill this week, because it eliminates the state and local income Tax Deduction<\/a> important to new yorkers. And thats not all. Ive introduced a republican revolution that Climate Change<\/a> is happening and we need to find a solution. Chris while stefanik has had an impressive starting congress, she doesnt plan to be there forever. I do think institutionally congress benefits from having a term of new members and new ideas. I dont see myself being here for 25, 30 years. Chris may be 15 or 20 . I dont know. Im thinking every twoyear cycle. I need to make sure i continue to earn the support from my constituents. Chris and we did discuss Sexual Harassment<\/a> in congress. While stefanik says she hasnt experienced it, she supports mandatory harassment training for members of congress and their staff. And thats it for today, have a great week, and we will see you next Fox News Sunday<\/a>. ,i,88rwow good morning. Thank you for waking up with us. Happy weekend. It looks like a nice day out there. We will talk about whether in a moment. Here are some of the headlines. A man trying to sell a device on craigslist was shot and killed by the people who said they wanted to buy it. The searches on for the shooters. The issue of Sexual Harassment<\/a> is a big discussion. Thanksgiving is just around the corner. The Holiday Travel<\/a> rush is on. 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