Transcripts For KTVU Fox News Sunday With Chris Wallace 2018

KTVU Fox News Sunday With Chris Wallace February 18, 2018

We will discuss the latest mass shooting and how to prevent more with Rush Limbaugh, who joins us live for a Rare Television interview. And we will talk about where this leaves debate of gun control with mark kelly, the retired astronaut husband of Gabby Giffords and a leader to prevent gun violence. Plus we will hear from a group of survivors who want to rally young people across the country and force action to avoid bloodshed. At what point do we say thats not enough and we call for action . Chris then. They want to promote discord in the United States and undermine Public Confidence and democracy. Chris we will ask our sunday panel about a sweeping indictment presenting new evidence with how russia interfered in the 2016 president ial election, all right now on fox news sunday. And hello again from fox news in washington. We are still feeling the shock waves from yet another School Shooting. The massacre at a Florida High School has reignited the debate over guns and Mental Health and there are troubling questions about the fbis failure to follow up on warnings about the shooter. In a few minutes we will discuss all of this with Rush Limbaugh and gun control advocate mark kelly. But we begin with breaking news. Students from a high school are making an announcement today. Five of them have joined us and i want you to know how sorry we are for what you went through and for the loss of your friends. Cameron, whats your announcement today . Today i would like to announce that we have an event coming up to have everybody in the nation talking about what we are talking about and one of the things weve been hearing is that its not the time you have to talk about gun control and we respect that. Weve lost 17 lies in our community took 17 bullets to the heart and its difficult to come back from that. So here is the time that we are going to talk about gun control. March 24th we have the march for our lives which you can find at marchforourlives. Com. If the march for our lives is going to be in every major city. We are organizing it so students everywhere can beg for our lives. At the end of the the day thist about the g. O. P. And the democrats, this is about adults and kids. At this point you are either with us or against us. In the next election we are saying if you are accepting money from the nra there is a badge of shame on you because you are enabling things. Chris david, do you have a specific agenda on how you think you can protect kids . Are these marches going to be mostly politicians talking to the crowds or is this going to be students trying to mobilize other students . This is a student led Grassroots Movement and this is not a debate, this is a discussion between americans because weve had too many debates before and theyve gotten nowhere. We need to discussion where we are both sides. Republicans can talk about Mental Health care and the democrats can talk about gun control. But what we need to do here is come together not as democrats or republicans but as americans and Work Together to solve this issue because this event occurred on valentines day sadly and sadly 17 people had to take a bullet to the heart and so did our community. This is a time for change and we cant let this ever happen again. Chris let me pick up on that because as terrible i cant even imagine what you kids went through. As terrible as what happened at your school. I dont have to tell you that have been other schools, sandy hook and columbine and so many others and the nation mourns. We are all very upset and then we move on and nothing much happens. What makes you think this time is going to be any different . I think this time is different because immediately the same day as the shooting i immediately went on fox news and talked about how this needed to be different, how this could not be just another mass shooting. Weve had 18 since new years eve and now its the time for discussion. Its not time for debate, its time to Work Together. Our elected officials need to get together, over on the political differences and get some things done because they need to save the future of our country in the future of our country are those children that are currently dying because politicians refuse to take action and continue to take money from the special interest groups. Chris finally, emma, take us back to the shooting. How terrifying was it, and is this called for a National March on march 24th, is this an effort to give some meaning to the senseless murder of some of your classmates . This is a case of simple please stop. Please stop allowing us to be gunned down in our hallways. People are telling us that we should run for president. We want an education. At this point we are trying so desperately hard to communicate what we are feeling and so many people are listening to us. The older generations every generation is supporting us with countless, countless amount of energy. So many people are coming up to us in the street saying thank you and we want to thank them by communicating what we are trying to communicate. We want to get the support for march for our lives. The website is going up today. We want students to be at that march and to be with us. We want to be with those students who we didnt understand their pain before and its tragic that we all have to understand the same pain now. We are here for everybodys kids. Chris thank you. Thanks for joining us today and i want to invite and if you will come to the march year in washington next month to come back on this program, thank you. Thank you so much for having us. Chris now lets bring in the king of conservative talk radio, Rush Limbaugh life from his eib studio in florida. It will come back news sunday. Rush thank you, chris, great to be here with you. Chris what do you think about this idea of students mobilizing across the country, a march on washington, communities, students trying to get politicians to act . Rush what i found interesting about the students they are very articulate and you have to feel for them. Its their lives. If they are a combination scared and angry. But chris, i have to ask if anybody is really serious about solving this because none of this by the way i couldnt care less about the gun angle of this. None of this is going to solve prayers and condolences dont solve it and marches arent going to solve it. The next shooter is out there. The next shooter probably has the gun that hes going to use. The next shooter is known by many people in his community who are concerned that this guy may do what everybody is afraid hes going to do. How is anything that we are talking about going to stop that . We have got to realize this is what our country has become. We can wish that it worked this way and we can wish that congress could legislate it away, but they cant. Its not the fault of the nra. If the fault of the people doing this and our inability to deal with that and stop them. We have security, Armed Security at virtually every Public Entity in this country except schools. For some reason they are a gun free zone and everybody wants to shoot up a school knows that they are going to be the only one armed. Until one really can get serious about where we are and how did they stop this from happening and marches arent going to do it. Saying no more guns isnt going to do it. Bashing the nra isnt going to do that. Chris it let me ask you about one aspect of this. We have now learned of two cases where the fbi failed to follow up on credible information about the shooter and we have now learned that just last month that someone close to nikolas cruz, the shooter, called the fbi tip line and according to the fbi said this. He talked about his gun ownership, desire to kill people, erratic behavior and disturbing social media posts as well as the potential of him conducting a School Shooting. But that information was never forwarded to the miami field office. How do you explain that . Rush i could be snarky and say maybe the fbi should stop trying to find every case of harassment in the white house and maybe they ought to give up on this ridiculous pursuit the russians colluded with trump in the election, but clearly this is my point. A lot of people knew, a lot of people have every bit of knowledge they knew to act on this guy, to surveilled the sky. We told well we cant do anything until the crime is been committed. Thats what has to change and is going to take some really smart people to figure how to do that without violating Civil Liberties and the Fourth Amendment and so forth. But its clear that the way we deal with this now this is totally political. The students think they are taking politics out of this. The minute they bash the nra, its politics. This is an event that advances a political agenda for the american left and the Democrat Party to bash the nra. Chris let me pick up in something you said. You just sit at the beginning i could be snarky and i could say maybe the fbi should stop wasting so much time. You have suggested this in a kind of provocative way on your radio show, the fbi is spending too much time on the trump investigation. But in fact the president tweeted just that last night. I want to put his tweet up. The president said. Rush i said it friday. Chris maybe he listen you. Very sad that the fbi missed all of the many signals set out by the Florida School shooter. This is not acceptable. They are spending too much time trying to prove russian collusion with the Trump Campaign there is no collusion. Get back to the basics and make us all proud do you really see a connection between the fbi investigating the russia investigation of potential trump connection and the fact that they miss the signals here . Rush no thats why i said i could be snarky. But i am trying to make the point. If the fbi is engaged in a bunch of stuff that is time wasting and isnt going to take us anywhere and its all chris, everything has become politicized, political and his country and thats why we cant solve anything. The minute and i will tell you with a primary perpetrators art of making it political is the media. The media carries one side of this argument, the antigun, antinra and they promote anything and anybody that is promoting that. Once that happens you can forget about a solution. We are never going to get one because politics enters the scene and corrupts it. Chris at the risk of raising your ir and those of your millions of followers, let me ask you a question about guns. To buy a handgun you have to be 21 years old and undergo a three day waiting period back. But to buy a semiautomatic rifle you can be 18 years old and the background check takes just minutes. Question, is that sensible . Rush it may not be sensible. I dont know. My point is thats not the problem. If you ban the ar15 theyre going to fight most of these are handguns anyway. If you ban that they will find some other way to do this. Until we stop them, until we affix blame where it belongs, until we are ready to admit that this is what our country has become we cant go back to the 50s and ozzie and harriet and wish it werent so. Chris you say identify them. There are a lot of disturbed people out in the vast majority dont do anything. Nikolas cruz did do something and there were warning signs. How do you identify them . Rush this guy was identified by everybody that knew him. The fbi knew who he was. If the solution to meet, i know this is going to cause all kinds of angst, but the solution is we need concealed carry in the schools. If we are really serious about protecting the kids, we need a mechanism to be defensive when this kind of think we are not going to take action, to stop , we better have mechanisms in these schools to stop it when it breaks up. If we dont do that than all the rest of this is nothing more than political posturing for the 2018 returns for the 2020 election. Chris thank you. You were coming back later in the program to discuss a number of other issues. I will talk to you in a few minutes. First lets turn to mark kelly, the retired astronaut who became a leader in preventing gun violence after his wife, former congresswoman Gabby Giffords, was severely injured by a deranged shooter in 2011. Welcome back. Mark thanks for having me on, chris. Chris in the wake of yet another tragedy and unfortunately the only times you and i talked tend to be after these tragedies, how would you stop more School Shootings and what you think about what rush just said, the idea of concealed carry . I know its one of the things were fighting against. Mark let me start with at the top of what rush just discussed with you. He says, first of all, the next shooter is out there, has their firearm, ready to do this, theres nothing we can do to stop it. I would admit that in florida Law Enforcement has very few tools to be able to prevent one of these things from happening, even the fbi, but in some states we have been instrumental and have successfully passed things called extreme Risk Protection orders or gun violence restraining orders. The state of california, the state of washington, oregon, indiana already had one in place. Connecticut. Law enforcement can be notified by a Family Member or maybe they find out about a situation themselves and theres a very short and abbreviated process to temporarily take the firearm away from the person that they believe is having some mental issues and are struggling. So we have already, multiple times, probably dozens of times, prevented these things from happening. You just dont ever know for sure. That situation that you cant stop it, thats actually not true. Chris one of the other questions as the gun. I know one of the things you would like to see is a renewal of the assault weapon ban that was passed in the 1990s and may be a limit on the capacity of these highcapacity magazines. In fact, gun Rights Groups point out that the vast majority of murders in the country are not committed with assault weapons, they are committed with handguns. I want to put up some statistics on that. According to the fbi, in 2016, murder victims by handguns, over 7,000. All the murders from rifles, shotguns, and other guns all in the hundreds. So are these assault weapons, the semiautomatic weapons, the ar15, are they the real problem . Mark thats 100 correct, what you are saying. Most of murders, suicides are committed with handguns, clearly. But when an individual goes into a school or another place with a lot of people with an ar15 or ar15like weapon, he has the ability to kill a lot of people much more quickly, the round that is fired out of an ar15 moves it over thousand feet per second. It tumbles when it hits a body. It is much more effective at killing a lot of people all at once. Thats why you see its often the gun of choice of mass shooters. Should a 19yearold be able to buy an ar15 but he cant buy a bud light . That probably doesnt make a lot of sense. We have come out for an assault weapons ban. We often dont talk about the hardware our organization is focused on keeping guns out of the hands of people that shouldnt have them, felons, people who are show some form of dangerousness, domestic abusers. Chris with unlimited time. The fact is he went through a background check and he passed it. So none of the alarms went off. I want to switch if i can mark if florida had one of these extremist protection orders may be local Law Enforcement would have had the tools to take that firearm away from him months before this happen. Chris President Trump spoke to the nation after the School Shooting and here was his focus. We are committed to working with state and local leaders to help secure our schools and tackle the difficult issue of Mental Health. Chris in all of his reactions, since the statements since the School Shooting he has not once mentioned guns. How much confidence do you have . You are the students at the beginning that the president and congress it will be different this time, that they will actually take action. Mark these kids are incredibly articulate and certain members of congress are really good at not listening to their constituents. These were forms are supported typically by 7090 of american americans. To have High School Kids who went through this horrific shooting calling for change should matter, i would hope in our society that that would make a difference. This is a very political issue. Weve got to get people to vote on this issue. I can guarantee you that those kids you had on today are going to vote on this issue probably for the rest of their lives and they are going to encourage others to do that as well. Chris as i say goodbye, i always whenever i see you, i want to ask how is gabby doing . Mark she is doing well. Issues in a great mood. Shes working hard. Obviously like most americans shes devastated by what happened in parkland and we are going to continue to work hard to do whatever we can to try and make sure this doesnt happen again. Weve got to keep guns out of the hands of people that shouldnt have them. If we got 4. 4 of the population, 44 of the firearms. If you listen to the National Rifle association or the Rush Limbaugh, you would think we would live in the safest country in the world with a number of firearms. Im a gun owner, im a supporter of the Second Amendment. We cant let these dangerous people have such easy access. People are going to vote on this issue and ive got to believe its going to change. Its changing in the states. We felt pass 200 piece of legislation. Chris our best to gabby. Thank you, thanks for your time today. Mark thanks for having me on, chris. Chris up next we will bring in our sunday group to discuss the fallout from the florida massacre. Will washington do anything to stop more

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