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Some democrats urged joe biden to pick a woman of color as his running mate. Well talk with Biden Campaign Senior Advisor Symone Sanders and get reaction from trump Campaign Senior advisor mercedes schlapp. Plus, a look at the barrage of accusations in john boltons tellall book about the trump white house. We will ask our sunday panel what impact the former National Security advisors claims will have on the 2020 campaign. All right now on Fox News Sunday. Chris hello again and happy fathers day from fox news in washington. President trump is back holding rallies for the First Time Since the coronavirus pandemic ripped our nation. And how the world in the race for the white house have changed in the last few months. Joe biden has become the Presumptive Democratic beverly copresident. With the virus is claimed the lives of at least 120,000 americans as well as millions of jobs in the countrys underlying racial divisions of boil over into protests and riots. We will drill down on all of that this hour. But first, Mark Meredith with the latest from tulsa, the coronavirus hot spot were Trump Supporters gathered last night. Thank you, oklahoma. President trumps First Campaign rally in more than three months brought out thousands of supporters, but far fewer than expected. Some wore masks, while most shrug off concerns about catching coronavirus. Before the rally, black lives matter demonstrators came facetoface with Trump Supporters impulses streets, but overall the situation remains relatively calm. Campaign organizers canceled an appearance by the president at an outdoor overflow venue because of sparse attendance. Inside the bank of oklahoma center, supporters built about twothirds of the rita with many empty seats in the upper deck, the president telling them the coronavirus was making his record look bad. So i told my people to slow testing down please. They test and they test. The president even suggest lawmakers punish people to burn the flag. We ought to come up with legislation that if you burn the american flag, you go to jail for one year. One year. But with the november elections fast approaching, the president focused heavily on attacking joe biden. Joe biden has surrendered to his party and to the leftwing mob. He has no control. Saturdays rally may be a preview of what lies ahead. Later on this summer. Trump campaign insists more rallies are in the works, even as the number of states are dealing with an increase in coronavirus cases. Chris. Chris Mark Meredith reporting from tulsa. Mark, thank you. Joining us now from baltimore, dr. Tom inglesby, director for the center for health security, at Johns Hopkins anniversary. Doctor, i know you watched the rally last night from a Public Health standpoint, if not a political one. I guess the good news was there wasnt as big a crowd as expected, but as an epidemiologist watching that rally last night, what did you see . Dr. Inglesby yeah, i thought that the rally was concerning in terms of Public Health risks and the cdcs recent guidance was that the highest risk gatherings by those that are large, indoors where people cant stay apart from each other more than 6 feet and were people traveled from out of town and this rally met all of those criteria and what i saw was that people were sitting quite close to each other, didnt see very many people Wearing Masks. There were some people handshaking without Hand Sanitizer, lots of shouting. All of those things will increase the risk of spread. Chris given all of that, does the president s rally in tulsa have the potential to be a superspreader of the virus . Dr. Inglesby we have seen in the past few months around the world that enter gatherings have been the source of most superspreader events and those are events where one person can give it give the virus to many people. As an opportunity for much more spread in a short period of time, so i am worried about that, i have many people in the Public Health community are worried about the potential for a big sporting event. Chris i want to pick up on that because a number of conservatives point out that a lot of the media and even some Public Health experts, not you, but some of yourdidnt express s when there were tens of thousands of people taking to the streets in protest over the death of george floyd, many of them not Wearing Masks. Is there some hypocrisy or Public Health concerns depend upon the politics of the gathering thats being held . Dr. Inglesby well, they shouldnt depend on the gathering thats being held. I think the Public Health principles are the same. Whether its for one purpose or another. I certainly sympathize with the motivations of the demonstrations that have gone on across the country, but i do worry that they are an opportunity for spread. I think its a little bit even more than a little bit different than having a large indoor gathering. We know that outdoor risks are less than indoor risks and if people can maintain their space, then that will help, but certainly i think there is a risk with largescale protesting as well for increased spread. Chris let me ask you about that, because there has been some testing of protesters after the big events in minneapolis and new york and at least so far and i understand incubation period mack goes on, there has not been any clear spike detected as a result of those. Is it possible the Public Health experts are exaggerating the risk from these big public gatherings . Dr. Inglesby i dont think there are exaggerating the risks. I do think again, we know from what weve seen so far in the last few months that outdoors is less of a risk than indoors and that mask use has a major impact so to the extent that people are Wearing Masks in a particular gathering, that will help a lot and it is also a little bit too soon to say whether or not the protests have led to increased cases, although i am blurry, very glad to see the initial studies do seem to show there isnt an increase of spread. Its quite different in an indoor setting where people are sitt that. Chris every time you come on i ask you where are we with the coronavirus cases and i want to put up a map that shows the fact that while there are significant decreases in a lot of the places that were hit earliest and hardest, there are now 21 states in the west and in the south Better Seeing at least a 25 increase in new cases. Dr. Inglesby, how much of that you think is just the fact that we are testing more people . How much of that do you think is the fact that maybe we are reopening too soon and how much of that do you think is that there is in fact a spread, a spike in the virus and some of these states where there has been reopening . Dr. Inglesby i think its a combination of more testing and a real and important spike in many cases. In many states across the country. You can distinguish what is more testing from what is more serious disease from looking for hospitalization rates, icu rate you write you write an 8 of positivity and the overall test in a given state and in many states, in the ones that you just showed, particularly arizona, texas, the carolinas, florida, what we are seeing is increased positivity in testing and in many cases increased hospitalization, so serious illness happening. Thats not just because were doing more testing in a state, thats because theres more serious disease in the state. Chris do think some of those states, doctor, should pull back on the reopening . If they are in phase to go, go back to phase one or even go back into partial lockdowns . Dr. Inglesby i dont think we need to go into lockdown in these places at this point. I think each state has a different story, each state has its own rotted reopening process and theyre all slightly different. I do think governor should be guiding the public to avoid large gatherings where we see the greatest potential risk. They should also be really strongly encouraging people leaders should be encouraging people to use the tools that we know work. We should encourage people to wear face coverings, to stay at a distance, to avoid large gatherings, use Hand Sanitizer or wash her hands. Those of the things that we know work and bleeders really should i think double down and communicating that across the country. Those are things that we have seen work and will work. Chris President Trump talked this week about the vir virus, the spread of the virus and also about medical treatments, here he is on that. Where very close to a vaccine and we are very close to therapeutics, really good therapeutics but even without that, i dont even like to talk about that because its fading away, its going to fade away. Chris is the coronavirus fading away, are we close, very close to a vaccine, and the World Health Organization said this week that we are in let me get it right a new and dangerous phase of covid19, best case, best case, how long are we going to be living in dealing with this virus . Dr. Inglesby well, the first thing to say, its not fading away. The u. S. Has more cases than a tad in many, many weeks. If you compare us to other parts of the world, our numbers are on the rise, the European Union last week we had 25,000 cases on a particular day in the cases, s not fading away in the u. S. , its not fading away in the world. 70 or 80 countries where the virus is on the rise. Its a serious pandemic and as w. H. O. Said, we are in a new phase of intensity in many parts of the world. Vaccine of element is going as quickly as its ever gone for any vaccine in the world and there are a couple of vaccine trials that are really ramping up in the next month, so thats all good news, but we dont know yet whether or when that vaccine will work. We hope we will have a vaccine by the end of this year but i dont think we can count on it so i think really people need to focus on what they can do to decrease transmission while we wait for a vaccine and continuing to do the things that we know work in terms of preventing spread. Chris dr. Inglesby, thank you, thanks for your time on this fathers day, always good to talk with you sir. Up next, we will discuss joe bidens widening lead in the polls was on the vp shortlist with biden Senior Advisor Symone Sanders. 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Look, Donald Trumps debacle of a rally last night will long be remembered, must we not forget the president s campaign required that folks were attending his rally sign a waiver so that if i were to get sick the coronavirus that the campaign would not be held liable but i think the most thing from that rally last night, chris, was in fact the president s admission that he quote unquote said to his people to slow down the testing. This is an appalling attempt to lessen the numbers only to make them look good, and so i think thats what will be remembered long after last nights debacle of a rally. The admission of the president that he slowed testing for his political benefit and its not for the American People. Chris well, let me just point out, they say that it was a joke and it didnt seem particularly let me just point out, thats what they said. I want to pick up though on this whole question of the Public Health of these mass gatherings, symone, because when there were tens of thousands of people marching in the streets and quite rightly in protest for the death of george floyd and the issues of Police Brutality, there were so many of them not maybe most, but many of them were not married masks. At that time the president called the Vice President , joe biden, called those rallies right and necessary with no mention of Public Health. I guess the question is why the double standard for the protests were okay, but this rally was dangerous . Symone chris, there is no double standard here. Protesting is an american right. If the American People have the right to go out and raise their voices. The difference here is, chris, we are talking about the president of the United States whose Vice President , by the way, has the White House Coronavirus task force, holding a rally, not following their own precautions that has on Public Health officials have put out. The president has to leave, chris, and President Trump has demonstrated so many times in every sense of the work that he is unable to do so. And so the difference between folks going out of protesting Police Brutality and the president planning a rally were six of his own advanced staffers before the rally contracted covid19 is as clear as day and again, chris, this is about Public Health. No one is saying, you know, we want the economy to reopen, we want folks to get back to work, more than 20 million americans are still out of work. Almost 120,000 people have died due to covid19. Those jobless, those deaths did not have to happen. It would have to take precautions, chris, we have to do what is necessary in order to protect the American People and months ago chris i guess what im asking though if i may, symone, i just am asking this one question, why did the Vice President because whether it was indoors or outdoors, whatever the reason for the gathering, there were thousands of people in the streets in these protests. Why didnt Vice President biden say, look, i understand the concern, but these may be potential superspreaders . Symone chris, just listen to your last segment where the doctor noted that there is no evidence that the protests are what have spiked coronavirus cases across the country, so im not sure what youre asking her what youre suggesting. Look, Vice President biden has really exhibited leadership on this issue. We have been out campaigning. I also heard you say we havent really been on the campaign trail. With ben on the campaign trail since march. Weve been campaigning virtually what you have seen Vice President biden go back out into the Actual Campaign trail and our events are safe, they are socially distant number they adhere with the cdc guidelines, Vice President biden wears a mask, people pticipating Wearing Masks because this is abo chris, this is about ensuring the safety of everyone involved emma President Trump has demonstrated yesterday is that he actually is not concerned with the Public Health, he is concerned with his ability to hold a rally. And i would just like to note, the folks that are out there, they should be able to go get a coronavirus test. Chris you better let me in here. Symone the folks up there protesting chris i dont want to get into a fight but you got to let me ask the question. So heres a question im going to ask you. Joe biden has you talk about him being on the campaign trail but i think most people have been struck that he has been he stayed in his delaware home mostly and then in large parts since march hes held a few socially