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Reopen the country and that and thats it for today, have a great week and we will see fo means increased pressure on schools to bring students back for in Person Learning this fall. In a moment we will speak with education secretary betsy devos about the challenges ahead. But first, lets bring in Mark Meredith at the white house with the latest on the move by the president to save a political ally from prison. Mark. On friday, President Trump for the sweaty faces, could be to the prison sentence of h longtime friend and political consultant roger stone. The move has democrats and a growing number of republicans up on capitol hill outraged. Roger stone was not treated properly. 67yearold roger stone was supposed to go to prison this week after being convicted of witness tampering and lying to congress. Instead, hell remain a free man after President Trump commuted his 40 month sentence. He thought that i had been treated unfairly. Democrats say the commuconstr and the hidden smiles. The the criminal pals of the president and one for everybody else. And tbig statement ghs. Iecea republican senator mitt romney was equally outraged weeding unprecedented, i care. Historic corruption. Wear a mask. Lets all do our part to slow the spread. Pat toomey called it a mistake. The president seemed unfazed by the criticism during a visit to Walter Reed Medical Center last night. Cameras capture the president wearing a blue face mask stamped with the president ial seal. The photo op came as the white house continues to aggressively push for americas schools to reopen this fall. We are very much going to put pressure on governors and coming up. Everybody else to open the Contra Costa County tightening restrictions on face masks. Schools. But some fear reopening well take a look at the new within weeks without a vaccine restrictions and what led the ready could expose more students, parents and staff to coronavirus. The president s campaign described a rally in New Hampshire last night claiming bad weather, not the county to use them. Virus, forced the postponement, however the weather up in portsmouth was fine yesterday the concerns that the virus and its unclear, chris, one that rally may be rescheduled. Is spreading. Chris. Chris and we will have and officials in martinez more of the roger stone case later in the program. Are preparing for a protest Mark Meredith after vandalism of a black white house. Mark, thanks. Joining us now, secretary of education betsy devos. Secretary, you say that there lives matter mural gained national attention. Fro m ktvu fox 2, this is should be exceptions in hot spots around the country but mornings on 2. Good that the rule, the general rule should be that schools should be fully operational and fully open in the fall. What does that mean when you talk about fully open, does that mean in person, five days a we week . Secretary devos well, chris, we know that for kids, getting back to school and getting back to learning, getting back with their peers, with their teachers, is really imperative and fully operational and fully functioning means that kids can be back there and if four families that need their kids in school in person five days a week, that has to be an option, so the point needs to be how do kids get back to learning in the fall fulltime and how d . Theyve fallen behind this spring, we need to ensure their back in a classroom situation wherever possible and whenever possible and fully functioning, fully learning. Chris since President Trump and you started calling you may really increase the push this week for full school reopenings, there has been sharp pushback from governors and mayors and Teachers Unions. Here is some of that. If anybody sat here today and told you that they could reopen the school in september, that would be reckless and negligent of that person. I double dog dare donald trump to sit in a class of 39 sixthgraders and breed that air without any preparation for how we are going to bring our kids back safely. Chris reckless and negligent. Secretary, how do you respond . Secretary devos well, chris, theres nothing in the data that suggests that kids being in school is in any way dangerous. We know that children contract and have the virus at far lower incidence than any other part of the population and we know that other countries around the world ool every day so that has got to be the posture here. Parents are expecting that this fall their kids are going to have a fulltime experience with their learning and we need to follow through on that promise. Chris al all right, lets pick up on this whole issue and i want to get to the other countries and what the experience is there in a moment, but this week the president called out the cdc guidance that has been issued about reopening schools. He put this tweet i want to put the tweet up. He called the guidance by the cdc on reopening schools very tough impracticable to impractical. Lets go through specifically with the cdc is calling for. They say wash her hands regularly, stay 6 feet apart and wear a mask. Is that tough, expensive, and impractical, secretary . Secretary devos well, these seem to be measures that we are taking pretty much everywhere else in life and they are common sense approaches and as dr. Redfield has noted, the guidelines are also that, guidelines. There meant to be helpful in a posture of how you actually do things and how you actually move ahead and ensure that kids can get back into school. And as hes also noted, the cdc never recommended that schools close in the first place. So i think this, not if we do. Its not a matter of if, its a matter of how we reopen schools and how kids get back to learning fulltime. Chris but secretary, i want to get to this issue because the president of the United States said that the cdc guidelines were tough, expensive and impractical. I want to look at some of the other cdc guidance. They talked about putting up shielding in places where 6 feet of distance is not possible. Plastic shielding. They talked about staggered dropoffs and pickups. Is that tough, expensive, and impractical . Secretary devos well again, all of the guidelines are meant to be helpful, to help local education leaders decide and work on how they are going to accomplish what they need to do, and that is getting kids back in school based on their situation and their realities. We know that schools across the country look very different and that theres not going to be a onesizefitsall approach to everything, but the key is, there has to be a posture of doing something, of action, of getting things going, putting a plan together for your specific school, for your specific district or for your classroom that ensures that kids are going to start learning again this fall. Chris i think we all agree that kids need to learn and to the degree possible we want to get them back to school, the question is, how do you balance safety and learning . You have cited the American Academy of pediatrics and a report that they issued which said indeed that students do need to get back to school and that there are real costs to the students in terms of not getting back to the school, but that association issued a new report on friday along with the Teachers Union and i want to put up what they said there. They said science should drive decisionmaking on safely reopening schools. Public Health Agencies must make recommendations based on evidence, not politics. They say leave it to the Health Experts to say when schools should reopen in various localities. Secretary devos im glad you cited the American Academy of pediatrics because they also have noted that this whole question of school and going back to school in the fall is one of health for students. And there are multiple measures for student health. We know and as secretary azar said, this is a question of health versus health, not health versus Something Else. We know the kids are suffering mentally with many mental issues. We know that kids are suffering with Emotional Learning issues. Know that kids from vulnerable populations and homes been suffering by not being in school learning. All of those are measures that have to be weighed along with the risk of a virus and we know again from the data that kids dont get this virus the same way adults do and so again chris do we know about how they spread the virus because ive been the science fair isnt so clear, secretary. How they spread the virus conceivably to the parents, grandparents to teachers in the school, custodians and the school, do we know that . Secretary devos well that is something that is obviously continuing to be looked at and studied and again, theres a lot of data that suggests that kids are not spreaders, but the point is that kids have got to get back to school and we can do that safely and every community, every school, can look at what their actual physical circumstances are and figure out ways to do this safely. We are doing it and many other areas of life. If we can get back in other areas of life, we certainly need to get back to schools. Kids cannot afford to not continue learning. Our nation cant afford to have kids not learning and preparing for the future. Because its our future. Chris we have found the costs of getting back to regular life. We, in a lot of states, particularly in the south, the southwest, we reopen the bars we reopen restaurants, we reopened gyms and weve seen a spike in cases that is almost doubled what we had in the height of the spring, so its not like reopening is an answer. In many cases it creates new problems. You mentioned earlier about other countries, you and the president have both said, well, other countries are reopening, so lets look at the statistics there if we can. Lets put them up on the screen. Germany reported 378 new cases on friday. Denmark, 30, norway, 11. Meanwhile, the u. S. Reported 68,226 new cases on friday. Question, is it really fair, is it reasonable to compare the situation in countries that have 20 new cases in a day with a country that has 68,000 new cases and in a day . Secretary devos well, we are talking about schools and other countries experiences with reopening schools. And it has been shown to be very successful, kids have gone back to learning environments and have done so safely chris but schools happen in an environment. If theres 30 cases in a state in a country, thats very different than a place where its out of control and there are 70,000 new cases in a day. Secretary devos and we are not talking about places where its out of control. We are talking about the world, not the exception. And where there are hot spots in the future, in the fall, of course that has to be dealt with differently and i would reference miamidade county, which has a very robust continuity of learning plan that was put into place in anticipation of hurricanes, but its very appropriate here. The state of florida has said in the fall parents and students need to be able to count on a five day a week, in Person School situation. And where those parents or where that situation suggests Something Else for a short period of time, there has to be plans to have learning continue 100 of the time, fulltime in a different setting. So miamidade chris i have one last secretary devos students to continue to learn. But what i have one last question, secretary, because both you and the president have threatened to cut off funding for School Systems that dont here you are. Speak of the schools arent going to reopen again. Breaking that promise and so why should they receive funds for something theyre not going to do . Chris and President Trump tweeted friday, schools must be open in the fall. If not open, why would the federal government give funding . It wont. If two quick questions and i need a quick answer if i can from you, secretary. One, under what authority are you in the president going to unilaterally cut off funding, funding that has been approved from congress and most of the money goes to disadvantaged students or students with disabilities, and secondly, isnt cutting off funding exactly the wrong answer . Dont you want to spend more money to make schools safer, whether with plastic shields or health checks, various other systems doesnt it make more sense to increase funding for schools where its unsafe rather than cut off funding . Secretary devos look, American Investment in education is a promise to students and their families. If schools arent going to reopen and not fulfill that promise, they shouldnt get theo decide to go to a school that is going to need that promise. Chris you can do that. I know you vouchers, i know you support vouchers, and thats a reasonable argument, but you cant do that unilaterally, you have to do that through congress. Secretary devos what we are looking at all the options because its a promise to the american people, to students and their families, and we want to make sure that promise is followed through on. Chris secretary devos, thank you, thanks for your time, please come back, this is an important subject, a lot of parents care about it. Up next, the new debate over whether to reimpose coronavirus restrictions as the u. S. Hits another single day record for new cases. We will talk with a Top Public Health expert, thats next. Its easy to get lost in the economic uncertainty. The volatility. The ambiguity. This moment calls for more. And Northern Trust delivers more. With specialized expertise. Proven strategies rooted in data and analytics. And insights borne from over 130 years of successfully navigating economic turbulence. Giving you new clarity. Inspiring confidence. And helping you uncover new paths forward. Northern trust we do have a ratt problem. 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Dr. Inglesby well, i think the first thing to say is that probably all americans here share the goal of opening schools safely as soon as they can be, so i dont think thats even a matter of debate in the country. I do think that there are going to be many challenges to opening schools safely and just kind of asserting that just because they want to open safely doesnt make it so. Its going to be pretty difficult for many schools. States around the country have been preparing for this so its not like nothing has been going on to that effect but there are still some uncertainties about transmission in schools. As you said earlier, its true that many schools have been opened successfully in different parts of the world, but in those places, most of those places, th with plans sure. Ou, because there have been outbreaks in some summer camps around the country this summer. Let me go back to the question that i asked secretary devos, where is the science here . What do we know about the risk of kids getting the illness and what we know about the risk of kids spreading the illness . Dr. Inglesby so we do know that kids are at much lower risk of serious infections than adults, but not zero. There have been deaths in the United States of children, including tragically at death yesterday in South Carolina of a 5yearold, so there are serious outcomes in children, but far, far less than adults. Whats less clear is how efficiently kids will spread the virus in school both to each other and to teachers, adults, and parents. In some places in the world it seems like that has in israel and the last couple of months, a large outbreak in schools when they reopened and so i think there still is uncertainty that we are going to have to live with. We probably wont know all the answers when we started in the fall but we will have to watch very carefully and react to what we find. Chris what to think of the president and secretary devos threat to cut School Funding for schools systems that dont reopen fully . Dr. Inglesby yeah, no, i think issuing an ultimatum for schools opening is the wrong approach. I think guiding schools and helping schools with Financial Support and encouraging schools to follow cdc guidance and state