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MSNBC The ReidOut July 11, 2024

Injuries he sustained when he was hit in the head by members of the rightwing maga mob during the Capitol Insurrection Last month. Just four other private citizens have laid in honor in the rotunda, including two other Capitol Police officers killed in the line of duty, rosa parks and reverend billy graham. Today House Impeachment Managers laid out a searing argument for why the disgraced former occupant of the white house should be convicted by the senate for his role in inciting the riot that led to the death of officer sicknick and four others. With an impassioned trial brief saying simply his responsibility for the events of january 6th is unmistakable. Arguing the senate can try the former president because his conduct endangered the life of every Single Member of congress, jeopardized the peaceful transition of power and line of succession and compromised our national security. Adding that instead of accepting the will of the american people, the man whose name we would love to excise from this show, donald trump, quote, summoned a mob to washington, exorted them into a frenzy and aimed them like a loaded cannon into the capitol. We know thats true from the president s own words and video of that day. We certainly know that the senators who will consider the case against them were in fact themselves witnesses to the events of january 6th, with the Senate Chamber a crime scene and many of those same senators who incited the riot themselves and those now defending his actions hunkered down in the same secure rooms with their colleagues. In a frank testimonial shared on Instagram Live last night, congresswoman alexandria ocasiocortez shared the trauma of that day, highlighting the personal toll the capitol insurrection took on her as she took cover in her office and then in a bathroom. The whole time she was gripped by the mortal fear that she might not survive. Then i hear these huge violent bangs on my door and then every door going into my office. There were no yells, no one saying who they were, nobody identifying themselves and just boom, boom, boom. I hide back in in the bathroom behind the door. And then i just start to hear these yells of where is she . Where is she . This was the moment where i thought everything was [ bleep ] over [ bleep ]. I mean i thought i was going to die. Luckily the person at the door was a Capitol Police officer who hadnt identified himself. And even then she said the situation was so intense that it was hard to tell if he even intended to help her. But its especially harrowing because theres no question of what that angry mob would have done had they found her first. Under the circumstances she had every right to question who was at the door, given that since the moment that she and the rest of the squad ran and won, they have been turned into hate objects by the right. Replacing the old republican connard of excessively attacking nancy pelosi or president obama. The apprentice actor and his minions on the riot have made Vilifying Aoc with sexist attacks and insults an almost singular focus of the last two years. We all know that aoc and this crowd are a bunch of communists, they hate israel, they hate our own country. Aoc plus three. You know aoc . [ crowd booing ] not a good student. Not good at anything, but shes got a good line of crap, ill tell you that. They run that party and they run the american left and theyre not going to let some young uppity come in and upset the apple cart. She is a viciously dishonest person. Shes got a great line of [ bleep ] thats about it. Some day the aoc moment will pass. Its too stupid to continue. Did i mention good old marjorie q. Greene posed with an Assault Rifle as her campaign for congress. Her ad was so incendiary that facebook took it down and then a bunch of North Georgians elected her. Then just as with nancy pelosi, aoc, president obama and the squad, the Maga Cult Leader even put a big ole target on his own Vice President during the riots during the rally. I hope mike is going to do the right thing. I hope so. I hope so. Because if mike pence does the right thing, we win the election. And later attacking pence in realtime during the insurrection for not having the courage to overturn a democratic election, to which the mob chanted hang mike pence. In their impeachment response today lawyers for the disgraced florida retiree denied that he incited the riot and said the trial is unconstitutional because hes no longer president. They also say his remarks at the Ellipse Rally that preceded the riot were free speech, protected by the first amendment. Joining me now is congresswoman Maxine Waters of california, chair of the House Financial Services committee. Congresswoman, its always didnt to talk with you, but i specifically wanting to talk to you today because you have been where aoc is, as somebody whos been obsessively attacked by the right, villified, treated to sexism and racism because youve been an activist member of Congress Since youve been there. Were watching you now back in the 1990s after the insurrections in los angeles. Can you just tell us how you feel hearing somebody like congresswoman alexandria ocasiocortez tell that harrowing story and also your own experience having to be in that capitol on 16 . Thank you so much, joy. As i listen to aoc, my heart went out to her because i know what she was experiencing, and particularly when she connected with the trauma that she had experienced when she was sexually abused. And so she described in a very vivid way what was happening with her when she heard them calling out where is she . Where is she while she was hiding. And as she said, she thought this was the end for her, that she could be killed. I know how she felt because i have been threatened also so many times. And youre absolutely correct. Because i took on this president early, i called for his impeachment early, i have been threatened time and time again. The oath keepers who were part of the domestic terrorists who came to the capitol and invaded our capitol attempted to come to my office in los angeles. They tried to organize other domestic terrorists to join them. My community discovered what was going on and they turned up in big numbers and of course the oath keepers had a change of mind when they saw that the community was not going to stand for it. I had to put out a notice to all of my community to say, please dont come. Dont engage with the oath keepers. Dont allow them to get you involved in a confrontation because i was trying to keep the peace because i know that if they actually showed up and there was a confrontation, it would be bloody. And so it was not only been the oath keepers, as we went back and took a look at how many times ive been threatened and what has happened to manufacture these people, in April Of 2018 a man named Anthony Lloyd scott got three years of probation and 100 hours of Community Service for threatening to kill me. The oath keepers who as i mentioned who tried to come to my office and was turned back and they are very bloody, and they white rightwing supreme ists. There was a a man in florida that pleaded guilty to leaving a threatening voice mail message with my office. So i discovered that he was also sentenced along with several others. This anthony lord scott who is a trump supporter in california pleaded guilty to threatening me in a voice mail and so he also was sentenced and so it goes on and on and on. I am of course accustomed to being threatened, but i have to be concerned about security and i have to watch my back and i have to make sure that im not putting myself in a position where i can be harmed. I have to know, you know, where im going, when im going. I oftentimes have security, i had it all during my campaign. I have to make sure that im not allowing people to walk behind me. I have to look out before i step out to see if there are any, you know, strangelooking people loitering around, on and on and on. But i and other women, minority women in congress, are often threatened. Were at risk. And just as aoc was threatened that day, i was lucky, i was locked in my office. I would not leave it even when they tried to get me to go to where they were gathering all of the members in one room. Im glad i didnt, because of the contagion that took place there and the members that ended up with covid19. Yeah. But i recognize what she was saying and how she felt. And i know how i have to live my life. But whats so interesting about all of this is they tried to make themselves the victim when indeed they are following the president of the United States of america who had advance planning about the invasion that took place in our capitol. And even theres information that some of the planning came out of individuals working in this campaign. As a matter of fact, he absolutely should be charged with Premeditated Murder because of the lives that were lost with this invasion, with this insurrection. And so yes, we are threatened, but we cant back up. Weve got to fight as hard as we can to see to it that theres some justice. For the president of the United States to sit and watch the invasion and the insurrection and not say a word because he knew that he had absolutely initiated it and as some of them said, he invited us to come. Were here at the invitation of the president of the United States. When he rallied, he said go to the capitol, fight hard. This is take back your country. And so if thats not inciting the kind of violence that we witnessed, i dont know what is. Indeed, congresswoman. I want to note for our audience that the speaker of the house, who also was hiding under a table with some of her young staffers, i know a lot of the staffers who work for you all has issued a Dear Colleague letter. Its important to facilitate an accurate personal record for the Healing Process and its also clear that we will need to establish a 9 11type commission to examine and report on the facts that happened on january 6th. I want to thank you, Maxine Waters, for that and please stay safe. Definitely please stay safe and thank you. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. I want to now turn to neal katyal, former acting solicitor general. You heard the congresswoman. Neal, the reality is you have officer Sicknick Lying In Honor in the capitol now because he was beaten to death by the rioters. That is the definition of a lynch mob. And the reality is if they were willing to beat a Police Officer to death, imagine had they gotten hold of one of the people who have been made negatively famous by rightwing media and by the former president , donald to turn aoc, to turn Maxine Waters, to turn otherem ask you this defense for this lynch mob that the former president sent. The argument thats being made by the trump side is that he cannot be impeached because hes no longer president and that what he said in whipping up that crowd is free speech. I just want to note for the audience, this is the brief that theyre arguing against, this is this thick brief which im going to spend the day reading, and this is their little 14page response, okay . Your thoughts, neal, on their argument. Exactly. So Donald Trumps lawyers an trump are trying to distance themselves from this horrific attack. Its like the January 6th Mob is the only thing donald trump has ever made that he wont stick his name on in giant gold letters. Sadly for him, the upshot of those briefs is that this is what hes going to be most remembered for, joy. And i absolutely agree with you, the briefs today just make this really, really stark and clear. And just starting with the writing itself. The house brief by the Impeachment Managers tells a story elegantly. Its an ugly story, its an evil story, but its linear and tells the reader what she needs to know. And the trump brief by contrast is schizophrenic, its hard to follow, it misspells United States on the second line of the brief. It weighs in at 14 incoherent pages. And the upshot of that brief is theyre trying to say trump is engaged in free speech. Give me a break. Weve got president s for 200 years. We never had Impeachment Proceedings against them because president s dont say the kinds of things that donald trump said. And i think the House Managers captured it so well and yesterday as you were pointing out, aoc in an even more powerful way, a very visceral way. I think thats the problem trump has is his lawyers are trying to make it out like hes just some crazy Guy Screaming at the tv. Hes the president of the United States when this stuff is happening. And as congresswoman waters just said, while its happening, what does he do . Nothing. If you were president , if i were president , any normal person on january 6th would have been horrified and done Everything Possible to stop it. This isnt free speech, this is incitement. Indeed. And let me play you one of the more ridiculous other arguments that they are making. This is one of trumps lawyers, david schoen. And hes saying that video of the actual insurrection should not be shown in the trial. Take a listen. Does this country really need to see videotapes . We know now apparently that mr. Swalwell and the other managers tend to show videotapes of the riots and people calling in, people being hurt, Police Officers talking. Why does the country need that now . This has nothing to do with President Trump and the country doesnt need to watch videos of riots an unrest. We need to heal now. We need to move forward. Im not a lawyer, youre the great lawyer here, neal. But this strikes me as me telling a gang of my friends, go in there and rob that bank. They go in, they rob the bank, some people get killed in the bank robbery and i say, you know, it shows people being shot by my friends who sent in there, but we dont need to see that, thats traumatizing. Dont show the video. Dont show the closed Circuit Video because thats just going to make people upset. Have you ever heard an argument like that . Well, ive heard it only from people really afraid of the facts. Im sure hes terrified of showing the Gabriel Sterling video, the Georgia Official of december 1st who went to the cameras and said, mr. President , cut it out, someone is going to get shot. Someone is going to get killed. What does trump do . He says the incendiary nonsense again and again and again. And thats the real problem. Some of this stuff you can say if you were an Alien Landing from mars. The statements by themselves might look like speech. The problem is they come in a context of trump egging this on and after hes been warned by the Georgia Election officials no less, someone is going to get shot. Its going to be a fascinating trial, but it is going to be a trial with evidence. And thats why donald trump has a lot to fear. Yeah, indeed. Some of that evidence is the person whos lying in honor in our capitol right now, because these people are also cop killers. They may not want to have to address that either, but theyre going to have to. Neal katyal, thank you very much. Really appreciate you being here this evening. Up next on the reidou, as we were just talking about, youve seen the briefs. The little one, the big one. Its now time for republicans to decide are they going to be the party that has some honor or the party of bizarre conspiracies and marjorie q. Green or what . 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