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MSNBC MSNBC Live With Katy Tur July 11, 2024

House Impeachment Managers say that former President Trump will have to testify under oath including crossexamination by democrats before or during his Impeachment Trial next week. If he declines to testify they say we reserve and any and rights to establish at trial that your refusal to testify infers a strong adverse influence about your action or inaction on january 6th, 2021. They want an answer by 5 00 p. M. On friday. Also congresswoman greene took to the house floor and delivered what could be best described as some extraordinary remarks. Things we have never quite heard before. Take a listen. If it werent for the Facebook Post and comments that i liked in 2018, i would not be standing here today and you could not point a finger and accuse me of anything wrong. Later in 2018 when i started finding misinformation, lies, things not true in these qanon posts i stopped believing it. School shootings are absolutely real. I also want to tale you that 9 11 absolutely happened. Things we have not heard before on the house floor before. One can assume she was told she had to do this. Remember before today she said that School Shootingings were staged. There are multiple reports that she got a Standing Ovation from at least part of the house g. O. P. Last night. After which Kevin Mccarthy said this. I think it would be helpful if you could hear exactly what she told us. Denouncing qanon. I dont know if im saying it right. I dont even know what it is. He doesnt know what it is, he knows how to pronounce it. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi sent out a statement with the designation qcalifornia. The over whelming majority amount of republicans are expected to stand by her. Unlike the Secret Ballot on Liz Cheney Last Night This will be out in the open. We have our guests joining us now. Everybody, welcome. Lets tart with you on the breaking news. Themen managers want donald trump to come back and testify. Yes, theyre saying that because in the president s response here he essentially refuses to say that he doesnt believe he won in a landslide. They talk about disputed elements of fact they want to clear up. They say that former president bill clinton was deposed as part of his impeachment proceedingings. And you know the mind of the former president better than i do, but it does read like a dare. You really believe you won . You really think youre smart enough to clear this up . Come on down. That might be sound legal strategy. You look at how the trial is stacking up and the Impeachment Managers would still need 17 republican votes to convict. One person that could make this worse for trump to provide compelling evidence against trump remains to be donald trump. He knows what he did and what he was up to on the day of the 6th. So very Interesting Development here in a trial which, by the way, we have not seen the rules, the time table, or any of the structure for and it is set to get started on tuesday. I may know his mindset, but you covered that white house day in and day out. Close to zero. He raised that he would like to do it, but his advisors dont want to call any witnesses. They want to briefly make their argument that it is unconstitutional and they want republicans to not convict him and to be done with this quickly. But this is a dare of sorts from the impeachment managerings. Theyre saying to him that if youre not guilty, come testify, come take the spotlight, and it is hard to imagine that he will not be demts by that. At least has of this morning trump folks were telling me they had plans to call zero witnesses and they want to keep the trial as short as possible. It would get him tv ratings which he is not getting at the moment. Garrett, on Marjorie Taylor greene, what is the impetus for her coming to the floor . I think your assumption at the beginning was a good one. And these comments on the house floor may indeed provide some coverage. She talked about stumbling into the Qanon Movement when she was upset with her government as a lot of people at the time were. She thinks 9 11 did happen, the School Shootings that she publicly questioned in the past are true. And what continues to be a problem for her is the Facebook Posts, the comments she liked, they are espousing violence against other sitting members. The talk of Political Violence that pushed democrats to feel like this is a situation where they have to act, they have to take a strong step in rebuking her and stripping her of committees. I have not seen any evidence that any democrats were swayed by anything she said on the floor to change their view. Lets listen to a little more of what she said in those remarks. Big Media Companies can take teeny tiny words that i said and portray us into someone that were not and that is wrong. Cancel culture is a real thing. The media is as guilty as qanon for spreading lies. She says we have taken her out on context when she espoused these experience theories. She supported Facebook Posts about Political Violence against democratic members of congress. This is not cherry picking, and even if we were it is pretty rotten cherries. Not only is she now the victim against big media and the left, but she is also on this Redemption Tour saying she, too, was tricked by the lies on the internet. She has taken a round about crazy excuse for what is very plainly things she should just say im sorry, i do not believe any of this. She would not be here today if it wasnt for qanon is what she said. At the same time i look at Marjorie Taylor greene. He knew about these comments back in august. Everyone knew, there was research for a runoff in jab. And yet this monster has grown and grown and grown and here we are six months later dealing with marjorie tailor green. He could have tripped her from her committees and said we need to bring this vote to the floor which is politically terrible for republicans, but at the same time theyre still going to vote for her rather than with the democrats. He is scared of what he represents. These are people that kept him from the speakership, and it shows you that Kevin Mccarthy is more concerned about his own leadership, his own ambition than really rooting out the cancer in his own party and he left his own rapg and file basically stuck having to defend this woman when we all know in the midterm elections this doesnt inspire the moderates that give the suburbs to the house. And now here he is embracing marjorie tailor green. There is an argument that it goes beyond that, and as Mitch Mcconnell put a cancer to spread through the party. And this has been going on for many years. Since trump came up to power, and Cow Toeing Him and pretending that the things he said he didnt actually say or it wasnt as bad or people were taking him too seriously. That this has been going on, josh now for many years, and theyre only some some republicans that are trying to pull it back. Listen to what kinzinger said last night about liz cheney and her able to save her Leadership Position despite the talk that she would go down in a Secret Ballot. Shy won in a huge way and it goes to show all of that false bravado that the freedom club had. It feels like theyre trying to have it both ways here. And at the same time theyre keeping liz cheney in power. Right, well the party seems to be a really tense squabbling going on here. It is still popular in the districts, and a lot of Freedom Caucus members use it in the impeachment. One of the reason thats she con is that it was a Secret Ballot. Folks dont have to contend with the backlash, but it would have been differenting to see where it would have been. It is amazing and the precedent that could be coming out. This idea of stripping a member of the opposite party were going to see what happens on that. Everybody, thank you for joining us. Joe biden has addressed, democrats are closer and they join me on whether or not democrats and any republicans will get on board. First up, sam brock shows us how far some of us have broken with facts and reality. Disinformation from a Grocery Store in florida. Dont you tell me that im crazy. Dont you say that im losing my mind. If im acting a little strange its cause theres something new in my life. Im in love. Love, love, love. Its everything ive been dreaming of. Im in love. Celebrate your love with a gift from Pandora Jewelry and discover all the ways to shop. At wayfair. You can spend celebrat less on sofasth a gift from Pandora Jewelry that bring the whole family together. 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A year ago this scene would have been entirely unremarkable but now its almost unthinkable. Video from sam brock. A group of shoppers and employees acting like it is any other day. Not a day in the middle of a Global Pandemic that killed nearly 30,000 people in that state alone. There are no masks, no soshl distancing, but there is a proud owner who is proud to rebel against Public Health guidelines. Wearing a mask in Collier County right now is not optional. There are mask mandates. I was not out to find people not doing that but what we saw ended up being faultlines in the country. Video that looks like it was taken prepandemic. Capturing the countrys divide many customers and employees visibly not Wearing Masks. Clear messaging that Wearing Masks will slow the spread of covid19. It is based on data they accumulate because it is a science based organization. When we first asked about the stores mask policy we were directed to this ion stating the mask exemption guidelines. Those in our lovely government have said all need to wear a mask. If you have an amendment ask you about your medical conditions, the owner is known for his conservative viewpoints. It is about the exemptions or you dont think the masks dont work. I know the mask does not work and i know it has not killed 400,000 people in this country. He organized getting a bus of people to Washington Dc On January 6th believes many of the deaths being attributed to covid are due to other causes. Im not going to do it. Yesterday more than 3,000 people died from the coronavirus in the United States. Oaks store, a stark contrast to the hundreds of Public Stores in florida equipped with plexiglass counters. Reaction to the video poured in swiftly. One Person Tweeting i cant stopwatching this. My jaw is literally on my desk. Another saying we should exempt them from the vaccine line. The Business People were lobbying their local governments and they were worried about their own health and safety in what we saw here is a out liar. The vast majority of typer markets are observing these protocols. Were in a very affluent, conservative part of the state. Its not an outliar when it comes to all of the disinformation out there and it is an example of that. It is about more than masks. It is about a chunk of this country losing its grip on reality. Lets bring in mark caputo. Thank you for joining us. This is about more broadly than this guy that doesnt believe in masks, doesnt believe that the pandemic is deadly. This is about disinformation. He is someone that organized a bus trip to the president s speech on january 6th. A speech that was centered around a lie that they noticed there was people in the hospital not Wearing Masks. It seems like florida is a very problematic spot right now. I live in miami. When i go into my publix and various places. We have a belief in the Public Health scare, and that district, the 17th congressional district, pardon me, the district down in naples andly county is one of the most conservative and the amount of people there that believe in this, as you see, is just relatively small relative to the risk. Having said that what you will hear from republicans here is this. We heard scares about florida being terrible and problems that would happen in florida. A lot of criticism of the governor. He essentially opened the state so to speak. Florida is about 26th in terms of the death rate. That is below a number of blue states that republicans point out most chiefly in new york and new jersey. So one of the complications of telling people you should wear masks, you should socially distance and the like, and the criticism that florida took and the fact that florida is now in worse condition it is a more complicated argument to make. There is a lot of explanations for that including climate, individual decisions, and alike. There is a lot of challenges here in information and im not sure how to bridge that gap. So when it comes to local officials local and state officials and im not trying to paint florida with the Problem Brush you can paint them with a Problem Brush, were a problematic state. I think all states are problematic to a degree. When it comes to local officials, is part of the problem that the governor has been very antiinstituting a lot of measures. Is it because theyre not abiding by the Public Health guidance, the cdc and the fda, etc. They have fines, and it used to be in many counties in the state, many cities in the state, if you didnt have a mask in and area with a Mask Ordinance you would be fined. Businesses can be targeted through the occupational licensing of the county or state. But that is not always a very effective method to get compliance, as we see. The owner here has spoken about a way to get out of it. They have also talked about instituted a an ordinance on businesses. But that gives you idea of the challenges that local governments have faced. But one of the things that does mystify observers is why desantis and President Trump, to a degree, tell people to wear masks. Do to rhetorical things. Why President Trump did not do those things and why rorn ron desantis. It is remarkable. This also just broke from the a. P. The statewide mask mandate despite expert warnings about the dangers, thank you for joining us, we appreciate it. Nearly 70 of americans back to covid rescue plan does it matter if republicans dont . And candid biden promised to restore americas standing on the world stage. How does he plan to do that . [ Thunder Rumbles ] [ Engine Rumbling ] [ beeping ] [ engine revs ] uh, you know theres a 30minute limit, right . Tell that to the rain. [ beeping ] for those who were born to ride, theres progressive. 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