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Meeting with russian president Vladimir Putin in a decade, with two leaders meeting. Talking about Cyber Attacks, ukraine and americans being held inside russia. No concrete solutions announced, but the two sides agreed to begin talks on The Groundwork For Future Arms Control and Risk Reduction measures. Now after the summit concluded, putin held a News Conference in which he said the talks were very constructive. Translator i believe there has been no hostility. On the contrary, our meeting took place in a constructive spirit. Indeed, we have assessment on a number of issues, but both sides expressed the intention to understand each other and to seek common ground. Talks were quite constructive. For his part President Biden shared the same sentiment during his News Conference, but he did get a little testy, as he was leaving when a reporter asked him if he was confident that putin would change his behavior. When did i say i was confident . I said what i said was lets get it straight. I said what will change the behavior is the rest of the world reaction which diminishes his standing in the world. Im not confident of anything. Im just stating the facts. Reaction from switzerland and moscow. Nbc News White House correspondent monica alba in geneva, keir simmons in russia, michael mcfaul, former u. S. Ambassador to russia and msnbc analyst. He is also in geneva and ben rhodes, former National Security adviser. And msnbc contributor. Monica, President Biden holding this meeting with President Putin. What comes next . What are the tangibles about what we can expect things to go from here . Reporter there were a couple of indications, ayman, of things we can expect to see in terms of incremental progress, particularly when it comes to malaysias for both counties, with both leaders committing to make them go back to their diplomatic posts, restoring them after, of course, we saw tensions so high that neither were able to be in moscow and washington, d. C. , respectively. We know that at least in terms of an actual deliverable or outcome, even though theres no firm timetable. In terms of how the president views anything else from this he said, look, this is really a starting point. In his words, i did what i came to do, the u. S. President saying he did confront putin on a range of issues. And one area where they have said they will Work Together and cooperate is in a Bilateral Dialogue when it comes to strategic stability. So, committing to continue the conversation on arms control. Thats something that was widely expected. And you heard the president there refer to a timeline. Thats where he flashed some anger, because there was a question of what happens now. He said in three to six months, they will sort of do a Progress Report based on the topics covered in todays discussion. But he didnt want to get ahead of that, saying instead east of didnt see any threats with either leader here, that the conversation was good and positive, as he put it. Putin saying instead it was constructive and that there was no hostility. But the next steps here, the u. S. Is really going to have to assess whether russia follows will you on some of these things. And in terms of outcomes that are unpredictable, in terms of alexy navalny, for instance, the president deliver aid stern warning and said there would be consequences if he were to die while in russian custody. We also know he discussed these cases of paul w hechl lan and trevor reed. President biden felt this was a good start. One thing we were tracking all day, they did meet for less than they anticipated but President Biden said he felt it was completely enough time after just two hours with the leaders actually together over the course of a fourhour summit total. He said putin and him looked at each other and in effect said, okay, whats next . We can wrap this up. Go do our individual Press Conferences and go from there. That was the other very significant point to underscore, the fact that the american president got the last word. That was something by design white house officials wanted to see and felt quite good about how that played out here in geneva, even though the president had the moment at the end that he had to apologize for once he got to the tarmac before taking off on Air Force One, headed back to washed, ayman. Monica, stay with me from geneva. We want to cross over to see what all of this meant for the russian public and the kremlin. Keir, Vladimir Putin said todays talks were quite constructive, segment and biden can agree on. You sat down with him for that exclusive interview before todays summit. Does it sound as though Vladimir Putin got what he was looking for from this meeting with joe biden . Reporter yeah, frankly, i think it does. President putin is flying back right now to moscow and to the kremlin behind me here. And i suspect hes feeling relatively pleased with himself, Russian Media portraying him as a statesman, portraying the summit as historic. Yet what you saw am that News Conference with President Putin is the same man who i sat down with for that interview before the summit. Just one quote from President Putin from that News Conference, everything that has deteriorated in our relationship was initiated by the United States. So you didnt see President Putin walking out at any moment during that News Conference while saying he wants to talk and considers the relationship to be constructive, at no point did he say here is something that we didnt do right or here is something that we think we can change, as the kremlin. You didnt hear that. Now, you did hear a similar story from both president s, kind of a time will tell message. In relation to President Putin, you said he did say that President Biden raised the question of those u. S. Prisoners held here in russia, trevor reed and paul whelan and said we might be able to find some kind of compromise. Of course, that will raise the hopes of their families. Not a dissimilar message to what President Biden had to say, which is well just have to see how things go in the months ahead. I think the cynical side, though, ayman, is that weve seen this story before, where President Putin presents himself as prepared to negotiate whilst denying everything, and then we dont make much progress because effectively it may be that inside the kremlin, they think that this strategy of attacking and threatening and then negotiating is an effective one. It has managed to improve russias standing and President Putin, in particular, standing on the world stage. So why would they abandon that . The jury is out, frankly. President biden was honest about that before he headed back to washington. Ambassador mcfaul, as weve mentioned, you were one of the people who helped President Biden prepare for the summit. We are now on the back end of this day. We have a better sense of what happens come out of it. What is your view on how it went and what it means Going Forward for u. S. russia relations . Staes exactly what i expected and exactly what we talked about. They agreed to begin strategic Stability Talks. They used capitals to make it sound like it would be a formal process. Thats a good sign. They agreed their ambassadors would go back to work. I want it remind everybody, putin pulled his ambassador from washington. So, were just restoring something that he did himself. We didnt pull our ambassador. And there was some, you know, tiny, tiny, baby steps about maybe well have some conversations about cyber and on iran, that was important. On syria. They went through the litany of bilateral and multilateral issues without any deliverables on that long list. As the president himself said, i think it was a great quote. He said the proof will be in the pudding. They established a dialogue. They set out some aspirations but whether or not they can achieve anything on that agenda, well have to wait and see in the future. Ambassador, why was it important to do this in person, given what you just said and the fact that some of this was initiated by Vladimir Putin, the withdrawing of the russian ambassador, even though this meeting was initiated by the white how. Why couldnt this have been done through the phone or normal diplomatic channels if there wasnt concrete deliverables that were set out . Well, President Biden, rightly said in my view, that facetoface contacts matters and he wants to establish that dialogue. Remember, they only met once, to the best of my nonl, ever. That was ten years ago. I was at that meeting, by the way. He wants to have some kind of direct dialogue. And i think thats the right approach. Having said that, what i fear is that by doing that, and say we want a stable and predictable relationship, that means were going to lock in to place and not deal with all the belligerent behavior of Vladimir Putin over the last several years. Remember, he annexed crimea, he annexed a countrys territory. He violated our sovereignty. He tried to kill people in nato countries. And we just cant forget about that in the name of having a stable relationship. That, of course, is what Vladimir Putin wants. And i think the challenge for President Biden, as he goes home, he had his engagement play. He did that today. He made small steps toward that. Now his homework back home is to have a more robust, Deterrent Strategy or containment strategy for stopping and resisting those belligerent things that putin has been doing for the last several years. Ben rhodes, word of the day, perhaps, is consequences. I think thats the word that most people have been using in terms of what the United States should be prepared to do to deliver what ambassador mcfaul was highlighting, a litany of violations committed by russia. What were your sxeks for this meeting . Do we have a clearer sense whether or not the United States, after today, is prepared to exact consequences for the aggressions as ambassador mcfaul described them, being committed by russia . I think it wept as i expected, too. For putin, the achievement is the meeting itself, on equal par with the president in this third country, geneva. The eye of the world is on this summit. And he wants to give the impression that things are normalized. Theres a pragmatic relationship with the United States. Because, as mike alluded to, that belice the fact that he has been on this Asymmetric Offensive against the United States, our dem kras and the liberal and National Order for years now. Of course, he wants to act like everything is resolved. The question is clearly in that one on one meeting, when it was just the two Foreign Ministers in there with the president s, what biden did was laid out. Here are my concerns on cyber, on alexey navalny, ukraine. A whole host of issues. He laid down the benchmark, this is what im seeing that im concerned about. If you dont do something, youll get a response from us. Now you have to watch the next six months, nine months to a year. And President Biden was candid to see we dont know where this is going to go. If we continue to see this vicious crackdown weve seen against any political opposition inside and outside of russia, if we continue to see Saber Rattling deeper into ukraine, then what does the Biden White House and Biden Administration do in response . When joe biden has to call him, when those consequences might have to be pursued hes going to say remember when we sat down face to anyways geneva and i told you, the benefit is to lay it out and youre going to refer back to this summit in your subsequent conversations with putin. I want to draw on your experience from the National Security council when you were there and what came out of the last couple of days, not just today, was nato saying theyre prepared to deal with Cyber Attacks under article v, an attack on one Member Nation would be an attack on all. Does the United States, does nato have a clear definition of what a cyber attack being carried out by russia under article v would look like or constitute nato articles 5 v that would bring about a response . Thats a great question. Article v is an armed attack object one is an attack n all and has only been invoked after 9 11. Warfare changing and there are certain kinds of Cyber Attacks that can reach a scale that requires allied response. Theres infrastructure thats so critical to our National Security and wellbeing that you would kind of consider it to be something of an act of war, albeit asymmetric warfare. And so i think this agenda represents the alliance beginning to get its arms around this issue. Weve seen russia engaged in cyber activity not just against the United States but against our allies. If we can figure out ways to collectively respond to that in terms of strengthening, hardening our defenses and in terms of preprizals. Monica, obviously in the hours to come, well probably hear more from the white house, certainly from aboard those in Air Force One and when they land back in washington. Whats the initial readout from the white houses perspective . Did they think that the summit was successful even if the two leaders spent less time together than expected . Reporter it does appear that way, ayman. I think theyll broaden this out from an argument from the white house that the entire trip, in their view, was successful. If we look to the washington postoped that joe biden himself penned right before he left to come on this multicountry trip, he said his main goal was to rally the worlds Dem Krass Against Autocracy to confront the threats from china and russia. What we saw here accomplished the latter. In terms of the former, you saw the white house hinting in terms of what they were able to do at the g7, nato and at the eu summit yesterday, they feel like theyre coming away with almost everything on their list checked off. Thats how theyll frame it. Yes, of course, the Highlight Harky event we saw unfold in switzerland. Theyre going to try to make the case, i anticipate. And you heard the president in his own Press Conference try to preview this as well, that this was far more global, far more big in its approach and that, i believe, theyre going to say was accomplished at least in the short term. In terms of what happened here today with President Putin, we knew that the stakes were low in terms of the expectations, critical discussions. But the white house really did want to try to underpromise a little bit so that they could overdeliver. That will still be something we have to discuss with experts in terms of what it can do for u. S. russia relations. In the initial readout, absolutely, the white house will try to claim victory because the summit didnt deinvolve or get derailed in any way. If that was the bar, they certainly feel they cleared it at this point, ayman. Keir, having covered both syria and the iran nuclear talks, if you were in damascus and watched ut what played today, would you think that russia willing to cooperate the United States on these two issues. Generally how do you think those two capitals would look at the meeting that took place today and the news lines that came out of them . Reporter i think in those two capitals, ayman, they view the russia policy, putins policy, standing by its friends to put it in the most simplistic way, as pretty solid and dont think theyll be worried at all about this News Conference. Interesting you mention iran, of course. As you know all too well, iran preparing for elections. Those elections will be crucial for the jcpoa, the nuclear talks. Thats where things may get very interesting. President biden has managed to get some kind of communication with the president of the russian and whether any kind of a nuclear deal can be done. Opposition in congress. It is really a huge challenge and at the same time, a huge deal. Before we finish here, ayman, the details are crucial but also the optics. The meeting started on time, a victory for the biden team, getting putin there on time. The other point, though, the Russian Media is pointing out that u. S. Media got tough questions to Vladimir Putin<\/a> in a decade, with two leaders meeting. Talking about Cyber Attacks<\/a>, ukraine and americans being held inside russia. No concrete solutions announced, but the two sides agreed to begin talks on The Groundwork For Future Arms Control<\/a> and Risk Reduction<\/a> measures. Now after the summit concluded, putin held a News Conference<\/a> in which he said the talks were very constructive. Translator i believe there has been no hostility. On the contrary, our meeting took place in a constructive spirit. Indeed, we have assessment on a number of issues, but both sides expressed the intention to understand each other and to seek common ground. Talks were quite constructive. For his part President Biden<\/a> shared the same sentiment during his News Conference<\/a>, but he did get a little testy, as he was leaving when a reporter asked him if he was confident that putin would change his behavior. When did i say i was confident . I said what i said was lets get it straight. I said what will change the behavior is the rest of the world reaction which diminishes his standing in the world. Im not confident of anything. Im just stating the facts. Reaction from switzerland and moscow. Nbc News White House<\/a> correspondent monica alba in geneva, keir simmons in russia, michael mcfaul, former u. S. Ambassador to russia and msnbc analyst. He is also in geneva and ben rhodes, former National Security<\/a> adviser. And msnbc contributor. Monica, President Biden<\/a> holding this meeting with President Putin<\/a>. What comes next . What are the tangibles about what we can expect things to go from here . Reporter there were a couple of indications, ayman, of things we can expect to see in terms of incremental progress, particularly when it comes to malaysias for both counties, with both leaders committing to make them go back to their diplomatic posts, restoring them after, of course, we saw tensions so high that neither were able to be in moscow and washington, d. C. , respectively. We know that at least in terms of an actual deliverable or outcome, even though theres no firm timetable. In terms of how the president views anything else from this he said, look, this is really a starting point. In his words, i did what i came to do, the u. S. President saying he did confront putin on a range of issues. And one area where they have said they will Work Together<\/a> and cooperate is in a Bilateral Dialogue<\/a> when it comes to strategic stability. So, committing to continue the conversation on arms control. Thats something that was widely expected. And you heard the president there refer to a timeline. Thats where he flashed some anger, because there was a question of what happens now. He said in three to six months, they will sort of do a Progress Report<\/a> based on the topics covered in todays discussion. But he didnt want to get ahead of that, saying instead east of didnt see any threats with either leader here, that the conversation was good and positive, as he put it. Putin saying instead it was constructive and that there was no hostility. But the next steps here, the u. S. Is really going to have to assess whether russia follows will you on some of these things. And in terms of outcomes that are unpredictable, in terms of alexy navalny, for instance, the president deliver aid stern warning and said there would be consequences if he were to die while in russian custody. We also know he discussed these cases of paul w hechl lan and trevor reed. President biden felt this was a good start. One thing we were tracking all day, they did meet for less than they anticipated but President Biden<\/a> said he felt it was completely enough time after just two hours with the leaders actually together over the course of a fourhour summit total. He said putin and him looked at each other and in effect said, okay, whats next . We can wrap this up. Go do our individual Press Conferences<\/a> and go from there. That was the other very significant point to underscore, the fact that the american president got the last word. That was something by design white house officials wanted to see and felt quite good about how that played out here in geneva, even though the president had the moment at the end that he had to apologize for once he got to the tarmac before taking off on Air Force One<\/a>, headed back to washed, ayman. Monica, stay with me from geneva. We want to cross over to see what all of this meant for the russian public and the kremlin. Keir, Vladimir Putin<\/a> said todays talks were quite constructive, segment and biden can agree on. You sat down with him for that exclusive interview before todays summit. Does it sound as though Vladimir Putin<\/a> got what he was looking for from this meeting with joe biden . Reporter yeah, frankly, i think it does. President putin is flying back right now to moscow and to the kremlin behind me here. And i suspect hes feeling relatively pleased with himself, Russian Media<\/a> portraying him as a statesman, portraying the summit as historic. Yet what you saw am that News Conference<\/a> with President Putin<\/a> is the same man who i sat down with for that interview before the summit. Just one quote from President Putin<\/a> from that News Conference<\/a>, everything that has deteriorated in our relationship was initiated by the United States<\/a>. So you didnt see President Putin<\/a> walking out at any moment during that News Conference<\/a> while saying he wants to talk and considers the relationship to be constructive, at no point did he say here is something that we didnt do right or here is something that we think we can change, as the kremlin. You didnt hear that. Now, you did hear a similar story from both president s, kind of a time will tell message. In relation to President Putin<\/a>, you said he did say that President Biden<\/a> raised the question of those u. S. Prisoners held here in russia, trevor reed and paul whelan and said we might be able to find some kind of compromise. Of course, that will raise the hopes of their families. Not a dissimilar message to what President Biden<\/a> had to say, which is well just have to see how things go in the months ahead. I think the cynical side, though, ayman, is that weve seen this story before, where President Putin<\/a> presents himself as prepared to negotiate whilst denying everything, and then we dont make much progress because effectively it may be that inside the kremlin, they think that this strategy of attacking and threatening and then negotiating is an effective one. It has managed to improve russias standing and President Putin<\/a>, in particular, standing on the world stage. So why would they abandon that . The jury is out, frankly. President biden was honest about that before he headed back to washington. Ambassador mcfaul, as weve mentioned, you were one of the people who helped President Biden<\/a> prepare for the summit. We are now on the back end of this day. We have a better sense of what happens come out of it. What is your view on how it went and what it means Going Forward<\/a> for u. S. russia relations . Staes exactly what i expected and exactly what we talked about. They agreed to begin strategic Stability Talks<\/a>. They used capitals to make it sound like it would be a formal process. Thats a good sign. They agreed their ambassadors would go back to work. I want it remind everybody, putin pulled his ambassador from washington. So, were just restoring something that he did himself. We didnt pull our ambassador. And there was some, you know, tiny, tiny, baby steps about maybe well have some conversations about cyber and on iran, that was important. On syria. They went through the litany of bilateral and multilateral issues without any deliverables on that long list. As the president himself said, i think it was a great quote. He said the proof will be in the pudding. They established a dialogue. They set out some aspirations but whether or not they can achieve anything on that agenda, well have to wait and see in the future. Ambassador, why was it important to do this in person, given what you just said and the fact that some of this was initiated by Vladimir Putin<\/a>, the withdrawing of the russian ambassador, even though this meeting was initiated by the white how. Why couldnt this have been done through the phone or normal diplomatic channels if there wasnt concrete deliverables that were set out . Well, President Biden<\/a>, rightly said in my view, that facetoface contacts matters and he wants to establish that dialogue. Remember, they only met once, to the best of my nonl, ever. That was ten years ago. I was at that meeting, by the way. He wants to have some kind of direct dialogue. And i think thats the right approach. Having said that, what i fear is that by doing that, and say we want a stable and predictable relationship, that means were going to lock in to place and not deal with all the belligerent behavior of Vladimir Putin<\/a> over the last several years. Remember, he annexed crimea, he annexed a countrys territory. He violated our sovereignty. He tried to kill people in nato countries. And we just cant forget about that in the name of having a stable relationship. That, of course, is what Vladimir Putin<\/a> wants. And i think the challenge for President Biden<\/a>, as he goes home, he had his engagement play. He did that today. He made small steps toward that. Now his homework back home is to have a more robust, Deterrent Strategy<\/a> or containment strategy for stopping and resisting those belligerent things that putin has been doing for the last several years. Ben rhodes, word of the day, perhaps, is consequences. I think thats the word that most people have been using in terms of what the United States<\/a> should be prepared to do to deliver what ambassador mcfaul was highlighting, a litany of violations committed by russia. What were your sxeks for this meeting . Do we have a clearer sense whether or not the United States<\/a>, after today, is prepared to exact consequences for the aggressions as ambassador mcfaul described them, being committed by russia . I think it wept as i expected, too. For putin, the achievement is the meeting itself, on equal par with the president in this third country, geneva. The eye of the world is on this summit. And he wants to give the impression that things are normalized. Theres a pragmatic relationship with the United States<\/a>. Because, as mike alluded to, that belice the fact that he has been on this Asymmetric Offensive<\/a> against the United States<\/a>, our dem kras and the liberal and National Order<\/a> for years now. Of course, he wants to act like everything is resolved. The question is clearly in that one on one meeting, when it was just the two Foreign Ministers<\/a> in there with the president s, what biden did was laid out. Here are my concerns on cyber, on alexey navalny, ukraine. A whole host of issues. He laid down the benchmark, this is what im seeing that im concerned about. If you dont do something, youll get a response from us. Now you have to watch the next six months, nine months to a year. And President Biden<\/a> was candid to see we dont know where this is going to go. If we continue to see this vicious crackdown weve seen against any political opposition inside and outside of russia, if we continue to see Saber Rattling<\/a> deeper into ukraine, then what does the Biden White House<\/a> and Biden Administration<\/a> do in response . When joe biden has to call him, when those consequences might have to be pursued hes going to say remember when we sat down face to anyways geneva and i told you, the benefit is to lay it out and youre going to refer back to this summit in your subsequent conversations with putin. I want to draw on your experience from the National Security<\/a> council when you were there and what came out of the last couple of days, not just today, was nato saying theyre prepared to deal with Cyber Attacks<\/a> under article v, an attack on one Member Nation<\/a> would be an attack on all. Does the United States<\/a>, does nato have a clear definition of what a cyber attack being carried out by russia under article v would look like or constitute nato articles 5 v that would bring about a response . Thats a great question. Article v is an armed attack object one is an attack n all and has only been invoked after 9 11. Warfare changing and there are certain kinds of Cyber Attacks<\/a> that can reach a scale that requires allied response. Theres infrastructure thats so critical to our National Security<\/a> and wellbeing that you would kind of consider it to be something of an act of war, albeit asymmetric warfare. And so i think this agenda represents the alliance beginning to get its arms around this issue. Weve seen russia engaged in cyber activity not just against the United States<\/a> but against our allies. If we can figure out ways to collectively respond to that in terms of strengthening, hardening our defenses and in terms of preprizals. Monica, obviously in the hours to come, well probably hear more from the white house, certainly from aboard those in Air Force One<\/a> and when they land back in washington. Whats the initial readout from the white houses perspective . Did they think that the summit was successful even if the two leaders spent less time together than expected . Reporter it does appear that way, ayman. I think theyll broaden this out from an argument from the white house that the entire trip, in their view, was successful. If we look to the washington postoped that joe biden himself penned right before he left to come on this multicountry trip, he said his main goal was to rally the worlds Dem Krass Against Autocracy<\/a> to confront the threats from china and russia. What we saw here accomplished the latter. In terms of the former, you saw the white house hinting in terms of what they were able to do at the g7, nato and at the eu summit yesterday, they feel like theyre coming away with almost everything on their list checked off. Thats how theyll frame it. Yes, of course, the Highlight Harky<\/a> event we saw unfold in switzerland. Theyre going to try to make the case, i anticipate. And you heard the president in his own Press Conference<\/a> try to preview this as well, that this was far more global, far more big in its approach and that, i believe, theyre going to say was accomplished at least in the short term. In terms of what happened here today with President Putin<\/a>, we knew that the stakes were low in terms of the expectations, critical discussions. But the white house really did want to try to underpromise a little bit so that they could overdeliver. That will still be something we have to discuss with experts in terms of what it can do for u. S. russia relations. In the initial readout, absolutely, the white house will try to claim victory because the summit didnt deinvolve or get derailed in any way. If that was the bar, they certainly feel they cleared it at this point, ayman. Keir, having covered both syria and the iran nuclear talks, if you were in damascus and watched ut what played today, would you think that russia willing to cooperate the United States<\/a> on these two issues. Generally how do you think those two capitals would look at the meeting that took place today and the news lines that came out of them . Reporter i think in those two capitals, ayman, they view the russia policy, putins policy, standing by its friends to put it in the most simplistic way, as pretty solid and dont think theyll be worried at all about this News Conference<\/a>. Interesting you mention iran, of course. As you know all too well, iran preparing for elections. Those elections will be crucial for the jcpoa, the nuclear talks. Thats where things may get very interesting. President biden has managed to get some kind of communication with the president of the russian and whether any kind of a nuclear deal can be done. Opposition in congress. It is really a huge challenge and at the same time, a huge deal. Before we finish here, ayman, the details are crucial but also the optics. The meeting started on time, a victory for the biden team, getting putin there on time. The other point, though, the Russian Media<\/a> is pointing out that u. S. Media got tough questions to President Putin<\/a> at his News Conference<\/a> where President Biden<\/a>s News Conference<\/a>, there were no questions from Russian Media<\/a> and here, thats been framed to kind of suggest that President Putin<\/a> is prepared to talk and is open to questions and President Biden<\/a> isnt. Optically, you could argue the Biden Administration<\/a> missed an opportunity there to seem open and try to take the tupt to talk to the russian people in a different kind of way. That may be something they want to reevaluate or think about. Frankly, it seems pretty unlikely that the guy in charge in the kremlin behind me there is going to change. Why not try to talk to his people more strategically and see if that might have some kind of an impact on President Putin<\/a>s thinking . Thats a very important point, keir. Thank you for raising that. Ambassador mcfaul, do you think that was a missed opportunity . Should President Biden<\/a> have taken some questions from russian journalists, even if they are members of the statecontrolled press there, and have a chance to speak directly to the people of russia . He did take one question, just to be clear. It was from Radio Liberty<\/a> and it was from a russian journalist. So it wasnt a complete it wasnt just american journalists speaking to him but most certainly, as they do their homework, they need to contain putins russia and also have to have a much better strategy for talking directly to the people of russia. Not everybody in russia agrees with Vladimir Putin<\/a>. Ambassador michael mcfaul, keir simmons, monica alba, thank you to the four of you for starting us off on this very busy afternoon. Another big story were following overseas. Violence in the middle east. Israel carrying out air strikes to the gaza strip after they say hamas sent incendiary balloons into the region. Y balloons into the region. 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All this comes on day three of a new israeli government. Nbc news correspondent kelly cobbi lechlt la. Good to have you with us. What are you hearing at this hour . Is this even is this escalation between hamas and israel expected . What are we expecting to see happen in the next 24 hours or so . Well, thats the big question, ayman. Both sides are in tricky positions here. On the side of the israeli government, a very knew government, a diverse government, as weve opinion talking about over the past couple of weeks, and on one hand, including inform aftali bennett, the prime minister, need to prove they are strong when it comes to hamas. They are already getting attacked from the right by allies of Benjamin Netanyahu<\/a> on not coming back Strong Enough<\/a> with strikes on more strategic targets in gaza. So, theyre having to cope with those political attacks from the right, making sure that they show theyre strong against hamas while at the same time dealing and developing with this new relationship with the Biden Administration<\/a>. Last thing the Biden Administration<\/a> wants to see is new hostilities. On the hamas side you have a militant group that is also in a difficult position. In order for the cease fire to evolve and the terms of the cease fire to be nailed down, they need it to hold. They need money. They need fuel. Theyre not going to get that if there is a war. So you are sort of seeing a moderate back and forth between hamas and israel, but not something that would be not something that would spiral into an allout war. Having said that, the situation on the ground sin credibly tense, especially after that ultra nationalist march. Weve seen an incident in the west bank earlier where a Palestinian Woman<\/a> was shot by Israeli Soldiers<\/a> after they say she tried to ram them with a car and then came at them with a knife. There are other incidents happening in other parts of occupied territories and, really, all it would take is one of these things on the ground to ignite this powder keg. It may not be up to the government or to hamas as to whether or not this spirals into another cycle of violence. Ayman . All right. Kelly cobbiella live in tel aviv this evening. Thank you. Back to the top story, the biden putin summit. President biden revealing putin offered to help the u. S. With foreign polishes, believe it or not. Expert analysis on that next. Ayman mohyeldin reports. N repor. Wright brothers . More like, yeah right, brothers get outta here its not crazy. Its a scramble. Just crack an egg. What happens when we Welcome Change<\/a> . We can make Emergency Medicine<\/a> possible at 40,000 feet. 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Joining me now, executive editor of defense one, former Obama Administration<\/a> official jeremy bash who served first as Chief Of Staff<\/a> to the director of the cia and Chief Of Staff<\/a> to the secretary of defense, nbc news security analyst. Biden and putin agreed to talk about starting Extra Teenlic<\/a> Stability Talks<\/a>. How significant a development is that, even if those talks have not yet begun . Its significant, progress toward agreeance that throughout the cold war limited nuclear weapons. If you recall under trump, and partly because of time and partly because of decisions by the trump administration, we had the withdrawal of the inf treaty, which was about more mediumrange missiles. Underneath all of this is a reality of new Missile Technology<\/a> and the fact that there is no longer a Nuclear Agreement<\/a> that provides a protective umbrella mostly for europe when it comes to midrange missiles. Russia has claimed to be dealing in hypersonic, underwater weapons. The fear is they could have nuclear tips on them and if they do, all these cold war designs shall agreements, are outdated. A lot of folks on the defense beat are watching the hardware. What kind of missiles, what kind of responses and technologies is the United States<\/a> going to be willing to develop and how quickly can they do it to provide protections that some Security Officials<\/a> say are needed until these new types of strategic agreements can be had. Jeremy, let me play for you what Vladimir Putin<\/a> said about Cyber Security<\/a> when he was asked about this. Watch. Translator as for Cyber Security<\/a> we reached an agreement chiefly that we will start negotiation on that. I think thats extremely important. Not from american sources. Im afraid ill confuse the names of organizations, but as for american sources, theyve said that most of the Cyber Attacks<\/a> on the world are carried out from the cyber realm of the United States<\/a>. Second place is canada. Afterwards, latin america countries and then comes great britain. Russia, on this list, where is russia on this list . Well, we are a country whose cyber territory has the most russia is not on the list. Jeremy, i want to get your thoughts on this. This deflection makes it seem that Cyber Attacks<\/a> are likely to continue even though biden said in his presser that he made it clear that there will be consequences for attacks of this kind. Do you think its likely to scale back or is this still a threat for American Cyber Stability<\/a> . Because youre dealing with a country that may not necessarily be using its state actors to commit these, quote, unquote, cyber crimes but relying on nonstate actors working within russia . Right now, unfortunately, i think its a major threat. It remains a major threat. Putins denial there in his counteraccusation is like the guy who was surprised there was gambling at casino. He knows full well whats happening, including cyber election interference, including collection activities like solar winds to collect data and infiltrate communications. I think its a mini concession by russia that they would engage in talks like this. Maybe there could be norms that the u. S. And russia could establish. In order for us to really deter russia and thats the problem. So much our deterrence has slipped over the last five years with russia. In order to deter russia, well have to hold at risk certain things that they care about. Biden, i thought, was pretty forward leaning saying he wouldnt hesitate to develop and utilize Cyber Capabilities<\/a> to ensure russia wouldnt threaten us in return. To your point, President Biden<\/a> at the conference afterwards outlined 16 targets he considered off limits for Cyber Attacks<\/a>. Im curious to get your thoughts to a question i also asked ben rhodes earlier. Does nato, have they articulated what constitutes a cyber attack on nato member allies that would fall under article v and prompt a collective response from all the members of nato in the way we think of conventional attacks . They havent defined that yet. I think its probably going to look like something that resembles the military, something that debilitates infrastructure. Certainly something that harms or impedes infrastructure or, heaven forbid, takes human life. I dont think mere intelligence collection would trigger it. This has yet to be delineated by Article V Clause<\/a> and by the nato allies. Symbolically, its so significant that 30 nation alliance, led now by President Biden<\/a> and the United States<\/a>, is standing up to russian aggression on Cyber Attacks<\/a> and also by toilette against china as well because china, of course, is an author globally of so many of the major hacks weve seen zplet me get your thoughts on ukraine for a moment. If you were in kiev, watching what played out over the past couple of days with President Biden<\/a>s comments about ukraine still having a long way to go in terms of meeting its corruption standards or criteria to become a member of nato and at the same time watching what we saw today with the joint any news the joint summit that took place, what would the thinking be in ukraine this afternoon about ukraines position and whether or not the you state is prepared to go to bat for it . I think there is increasing confidence in kiev that the United States<\/a> has their back. This is obviously a dramatic sea change from the Prior Administration<\/a> where there was deep concern that, of course, washington was aligned with moscow on this issue and that the former president was cow towing to putin. President biden has been clear, 60,000 troops were amassed at the border of ukraine and putin blinked when biden spoke out against it. Biden administration has been sanctioning the administration and today there was a lot of talk to Vladimir Putin<\/a> about ukraine. If i were in kiev right now i would take solace for the fact that an american president is standing up for their independence and their security. Jeremy bash, kevin baron. Kevin, apologize, we had some Audio Problems<\/a> reestablishing a conversation with you. But thanks to both of you for joining us this hour. Rack to the biden putin summit is coming in from capitol hill as well. We are live with what lawmakers are saying about it, next. Youre watching Ayman Mohyeldin<\/a> reports. Ayman mohyeldin reports. That help unleash your energy. Loaded with b vitamins. And other key essential nutrients. Its a tasty way to conquer your day. Try centrum multi gummies. Now with a new look. Advanced nonsmall Cell Lung Cancer<\/a> can change everything. But your first treatment could be a chemofree combination of two immunotherapies that works differently. 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Take a listen to this. If joe biden had gone into this summit from a position of strength, if he had not extended a very badly onesided Nuclear Arms Control<\/a> agreement with russia, shut down that russia pipeline, we would have been in a much better position coming out of this summit as well. Reporter now, ayman, tom is on the far side of the spectrum on this issue. If President Biden<\/a> had come out with President Putin<\/a> in a head lock, it may not have been enough to satisfy cotton. Jon cornyn told me that he thought the president clearly came in with the right issues to bring in. Lindsey graham told me the only issue he took with what President Biden<\/a> said in the Press Conference<\/a> was he doesnt agree with the idea that putin wants to be respected or seen as reasonable on the world stage. That he only responds to power. Bob menendez said i think part of the reason this meeting was short you had the president go in there and say what is possible, what is not possible and there was no need to have a buddy buddy back and forth. Its going to take time to see if, in any way, russia does change its behavior or what can be built on this before lawmakers come away with unified take on what went down today. There had to be consequences for russias actions against america, the Cyber Attacks<\/a> and what have you. Republicans have been publicly criticizing biden when it comes to russia. Talk to us about the tensions on the hill. Does congress have the president s back if the United States<\/a> was prepared to go on the offensive against russia, what that might entail . You have biden taking a tough line on Cyber Attacks<\/a>, whats been happening across the country with the attacks. I do think you have some discussions on the hill with the white house, but i think that there is really in a different position, theres a lot of members of congress that want us to take a very, very tough tact when it comes to this issue. And right now, we didnt see any real manifestation of that in terms of sapgss or something else. It was more of a carrot to stick conversation, not actually something concrete coming out of it. All right. Anna palmer, Garrett Haake<\/a>, hope you enjoyed the few days of quiet you had with the president overseas, because it looks like from the questions he was fielding on the way back to Air Force One<\/a>, infrastructure is going to be back on the news agenda this week. Garrett haake, anna palmer, thanks to both of you. Still ahead, russia reacts to the biden putin summit. What theyre saying on the groun in moscow. Youre watching Ayman Mohyeldin<\/a> reports. 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Criticism of President Biden<\/a> for not having more russian journalists at the presser. Joining me now is moscow producer matt bodne re. Tell us what youre seeing a few hours post summit. I have to say that they have been playing it pretty straight so far. Focusing on the details of the meeting and focusing on the return of the ambassadors and always signs that that was what they were going to hone in on as a concrete deliverables and thats used as a positive sign and we saw kremlin spokesman tell the pool that the meeting wept as expected. Though everything now depends on moving forward from here but that positive vibe you can already kind of see where the line will go and where the State Media Propaganda Line<\/a> will go moving into the weekend talk shows and where the kremlin sets the narrative and this question of not allowing Russian Media<\/a> into the Biden Press Conference<\/a> and i have to wonder if they did this on purpose because watching the Press Conference<\/a> it struck me how dominated it was by western journalists coming off the interview with president Vladimir Putin<\/a> just last week. One russian journalist asked President Biden<\/a> when they got a question in how come youre so open to western journalists but we are blocked from this Press Conference<\/a> and seeing this line open putin, closed biden and remarking how it seems that the american president is afraid to take questions while their president is so open. Thats what we have seen so far. Navalny, the family and wife and daughter allowed to see him yesterday of course before the summit raising questions whether this summit was a pretext for this. Today President Putin<\/a> was hesitant to keeping him alive and come payed him to insurrectionists. Do russians feel that joe biden has done enough to highlight his case . I think one thing that we have seen from the pronavalny opposition to see the west do more, specifically joe biden and seen sanctions specifically in response to the treatment of navalny, a lot of tough rhetoric from President Biden<\/a>. The thing that is we heard from President Biden<\/a> today about Nay Lexi Navalny<\/a> and seen already encouraging to the Navalny Circle<\/a> and happy to see this because President Biden<\/a> fields it the same way we always does and i think the responses on the navalny Question Reminiscent<\/a> of the interview with President Putin<\/a> last week. Even though President Biden<\/a> is now here and really hammering this point home that the United States<\/a> is paying attention to the treatment of navalny this is going on for several months now. Navalny is still in jail. And it seems like every situation its worst for the opposition and harsh limits to what President Biden<\/a> can achieve inside russias borders in this regard. Wrapping up things for us on busy day. Ill see you here tomorrow at 3 00 p. M. Eastern. Deadline white house with Niccole Wallace<\/a> starts right after this quick break. E fast c meeting them where they are, and getting them where they want to be. Faster. Vmware. Welcome change. [lazer beam and sizzling sounds] spray, lift, skip, step. Swipe, lift, spin, dry. Slam, pan, still. Fresh move, move, move, move aaaaand still fresh. Degree. Ultimate freshness activated when you move. From prom dresses to workouts ultimate freshness and new adventures you hope the more you give the less theyll miss. 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A high stakes and high profile summit with Vladimir Putin<\/a>, it was the first major Foreign Policy<\/a> moment of the new Biden Presidency<\/a> and a brand new chapter in relations with an adversary. President biden making it clear that the u. S. Will not tolerate russian cyber aggression or election interference. Bringing human rights back into focus for the u. S. While also rebutting attacks on american democracy. I made it clear we will not tolerate attempts to","publisher":{"@type":"Organization","name":"archive.org","logo":{"@type":"ImageObject","width":"800","height":"600","url":"\/\/ia801006.us.archive.org\/18\/items\/MSNBCW_20210616_190000_Ayman_Mohyeldin_Reports\/MSNBCW_20210616_190000_Ayman_Mohyeldin_Reports.thumbs\/MSNBCW_20210616_190000_Ayman_Mohyeldin_Reports_000001.jpg"}},"autauthor":{"@type":"Organization"},"author":{"sameAs":"archive.org","name":"archive.org"}}],"coverageEndTime":"20220405T12:35:10+00:00"}