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MSNBCW Chris July 4, 2024

Also ahead, an alleged Assassination Attempt against Volodymyr Zelenskyy thwarted. What were learning about the apparent informant accused of Sharing Intelligence with russia, and an unknown road ahead for americas trucking industry, as trucking giant, yellow, declares bankruptcy, after years of financial struggles and growing debt, how this Seismic Shift could impact you. Our nbc News Reporters are following all of the latest developments, lets go ahead and start with Donald Trumps attorneys who have a 5 00 p. M. Deadline to respond to the Special Counsels concerns over trump disclosing evidence in the Election Interference Case. Nbcs Vaughn Hillyard is tracking it. So whats the latest . We are waiting for trumps Defense Counsel to put forward their own filing. Its important to note they had initially asked for an extension of time over the weekend, but the judge denied their motion, and so 5 00 p. M. Is this deadline. Lets be clear, this is not a gag order the department of justice is seeking which would mean that donald trump would not be able to talk about the case, essentially at all. What they are seeking is a protective order, which would prevent him from publicly disseminating or talking about the evidence that is gained by the department of justice turning over evidence as part of the discovery process to his Defense Counsel. This is done in a criminal proceeding so that the defendants, the legal team is able to build their defense case and that they know what the prosecution has on their side. I want to let you look at two social media posts from donald trump here, though. Over just these last hours because he has taken on the department of justice head on, writing in part, no, i shouldnt have a protective order placed on me, because it would impinge on my right to free speech, the department of justice should, however, because they are leaking all over the place. Another post writing deranged jack smith is going before the number one draft pick, the judge of his dreams that must be recused in an attempt to take away First Amendment rights, despite he and the doj and thug prosecutors are leaking anything and everything to the fake news media. Of course, donald trump you saw in the first post, talking about his First Amendment rights. I have had conversations with key Campaign Advisers and allies ever since he launched the 2024 president ial bid in november. They said the reason they viewed this Campaign Team around him as being successful and drama free is because donald trump has brought in people who will allow him to be him, and say what he wants to say, and in this case, we have seen donald trump make the case that he should be able to discuss whatever he desires around his legal peril. Of course, now this would come down to whether the judge sides with the department of justice in their request that they be limited to some degree to revealing new evidence that may come to him privately but not be made available to the public at large and evidence that could potentially taint a jury pool. Vaughn hillyard, thank you. In georgia, a fourth indictment looms for the former president. Blayne alexander joins us outside the Fulton County courthouse. The area looks different today. What can you tell us . Reporter absolutely. Thats because theres more security, increased security. We are in the middle of this kind of threeweek period that fani willis has strongly indicated that were going to see their Charging Decisions. Each week of the threeweek period, we have seen before. Right now, traffic, main traffic is closed in front of this courthouse. The only vehicles that can come down are Law Enforcement and members of the media. Through traffic is closed. We have seen barricades, metal barricades, orange barricades popping up around this courthouse, and thats another indication that were watching closely and waiting to see when these will come down. The other thing we know is we know the folsom d. A. Is preparing the case, presenting to preparing for a grand jury. Two grand juries are currently seated. One of them will be hearing her case into alleged Election Interference in the state of georgia. We also know that a number of subpoenas have gone out. People being asked to be on stand by to testify at some point this month. So all of that certainly points back to what the d. A. Has said all along, though she will reveal her Charging Decisions before the beginning of september, and its increasingly looking likely well see it happen this week or next. Blayne alexander, thank you for the update. Ukrainian Authorities Say they foiled an Assassination Plot against president Volodymyr Zelenskyy catching a woman red handed sharing intel with russia. Nbcs matt bradley is following this story. Matt, whats the latest . Well, its all still a bit murky, and everything we know so far, it all comes entirely from ukraines intelligence agency, which is the sbu, and nbc has been unable to verify if most of this information, but according to ukrainian intelligence, this woman was a local resident of a small city in the Southern Region of mykolaiv. One of the most contested regions in the war. According to ukrainian intelligence, she has been seen traveling around mykolaiv, taking photos of potential targets like Electronic Warfare systems, and the sbu said the suspect had been seen seeking information about president Volodymyr Zelenskyys itinerary in mykolaiv. This came last month. All of this was done to prepare for an air strike that would target mykolaiv, its Military Assets and presumably president zelenskyy himself which is thought to have been the target of russian Assassination Attempts since the war began in february of 2022. Thats why ukrainians are calling this an attempt to kill the president , an assassination, as you mentioned. Ukraines sbu says this woman was caught red handed but not photographing these Military Installations or asking deined, according to the sbu, while she was passing information that she had collected on to her russian handlers, and again, this is all according to ukrainian intelligence. Like i said, theres a lot of questions, a lot of information that is kind of sketchy right now, but another interesting thing here is that ukrainian authorities havent reported having actually charged this woman with anything. They said that shes only been detained pending an investigation. They added that if found guilty, she faces up to 12 years in prison. Matt bradley, thank you. Trucking giant yellow is now declared Chapter Eleven bankruptcy after years of financial struggle. Cnbcs Morgan Brennan is following this for us for cnbc on msnbc. How did this happen and what does it mean for consumers . Years of financial struggles. Growing debt after poorly executed acquisitions. Chapter eleven bankruptcy was filed on sunday, three years after yellow received 700 million in pandemic era loans from the federal government. While chapter 11 filings are usually used to restructure debt while operations will continue, yellow will liquidate and the u. S. Will join other creditor, unlikely to extend funds to other companies. It employs about 30,000 workers. It has been, at least until now, a dominant player, Hauling Cargo for multiple customers on a single truck, including walmart, home depot, manufacturers, a number of others. In filing for bankruptcy, yellow blamed the Teamsters Union by hastening its demise by proposing a restructuring plan, saying we face nine months of bullying and deliberately destructive tactics. The union struck back saying the c suite failed to take responsibility for squandering all the cash, adding that quote, they shamelessly pin their corporate incompetence on working people. Yellow avoided a strike by teamsters represented workers but there has been a growing expectation between that and all the debt that this company has had that the Truck Operator would go bankrupt. So now what this means for the framework, yellow customers and shippers may face some disruptions. They may face higher prices, too, as they take their business to competitors. Yellow historically offered the cheapest price points in the industry. Thats something for consumers to watch as you see another delivery giant, ups go through its own process with a new Labor Contract with the teamsters reporting now. There is an expectation to see rate increases. In terms of shipping goods, maybe they get a little more expensive. Well have to see. Morgan brennan, thank you. Of course he lost, Florida Governor ron desantis making his most forceful comments in the 2020 president ial election. In an all new exclusive nbc interview, our very own dasha burns who spoke to the 2024 president ial candidate joins me in 60 seconds. 4 president ial candidate joins me in 60 sendcos. Ever notice how stiff clothes can feel rough on your skin . For softer clothes that are gentle on your skin, try downy free gentle downy will soften your clothes without dyes or perfumes. The towel washed with downy is softer, and gentler on your skin. Try downy free gentle. fan 1 there ya go thats what im talkin about josh allen is this your plan to watch the game today . hero fan uh, yea. I have to watch my neighbors Nfl Sunday Ticket. josh allen its not your best plan. But you know what is . Myplan from verizon. 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Yes or no, did donald trump lose the 2020 election. Whoever puts their hand on the bible on january 20th every four years is the winner. But respectfully, you did not clearly answer that question, and if you cant give a yes or no on whether or not trump lost, then how of course he lost. Trump lost the 2020 election. Of course. Joe biden is the president. But the issue is i think what people in the media and elsewhere they want to act like this was just the perfect election. You should note there was no widespread voter fraud in the election. Dasha burns joins me right now from iowa, along with former Ohio Republican governor john kasich. Governor kasich was an msnbc political analyst. Its been two and a half weeks since you reported exclusively on this campaign reboot. Whats your sense on how the governor thinks its going . Did you get the sense theres a change in the way hes approaching the campaign . Reporter look, i hate to get too meta and do the whole media on the media thing, but i think one example is literally what you just saw on the screen there, which is the Florida Governor sitting down with us. He has really started to engage with what he often calls a legacy media or corporate media. Hes been doing gags at a lot of his stops. Hes been sitting down with reporters. He did sit down with me for 30 plus minutes and answered all of my questions to his credit. Nothing was off limits, and he gave me answers and illuminated a lot of his positions for us. So that is a major change that weve seen. Another change weve seen is that his events have gotten smaller. Now, some folks are pointing to smaller crowd sizes as an example of maybe the lack of interest. I would actually say thats a bit of a strategic shift for the campaign. Hes trying to engage voters in a more intimate way. I have seen him start to have those conversations, sit down at tables with folks at diners, at the outset, he was doing more so things behind podiums, on stages, sort of bike racks in front of those stages, shaking hands with voters. Now hes having those conversations, shaking the hands, answering questions, it is a little bit of a different style these days. The Campaign Calls it a shift as an incumbent governor to insurgent candidate, whatever you want to call it. Im getting the sense of that shift. Whether or not it will work, that remains to be seen. Youve got five months to go until the Iowa Caucuses in january and a lot of ground to make up if you look at the polls. But iowa is going to be critical, and it is a little bit of anyones game, if you start digging into some of that polling. A lot of voters are still kicking the tires and are open to alternative candidates with donald trump, according to my conversations and some of the numbers we have seen come out of the state. Governor, desantis was roughly 30 points behind trump a month ago, now that gap is nearly 40 points. From what youre seeing is what hes doing enough to make any kind of impact on the dynamics of this race. I have to tell you, i remember being in New Hampshire, going to a town hall, and there were two people that showed up and the guy who would follow me around and help me through the Campaign Said this is perfect, now you have a chance to convert at least one of the two. So these crowd sizes, they kind of go up, they kind of go down, i can tell you that. Theres two issues here. One is can he connect. Hes been in a larger setting, kind of wasnt working. Now hes in the smaller setting, can he connect, and secondly, i think hes changing his message. I read over the weekend that they want to move away from the whole antiwoke message. That doesnt seem to be connecting with significant numbers of people. So you can see hes beginning to talk about the economy, hes not talking much about florida, which i think is a mistake. He should be talking about the things he did down there. Then the other thing you have to keep your eye on is the money, i think part of the reason why he did this interview, part of the reason why he said trump lost is that some of the people who are significant contributors to him think in a way hes gone off the rails. I mean, trump did lose the election. I think what hes trying to do is to get more back into the mainstream so that those people who can help finance his campaign will not leave him. So a cup of things to look at, one, the message, secondly, is he connecting, and thirdly, is he getting the money. Those are the things we have to keep our eye on. Long way to go. Still a very long way to go. With that in mind, i want to play part of the exchange from dashas interview on abortion. So would you veto any sort of federal bill that tries to put a nationwide ban in place . We will be a Pro Life President , and we will support pro life policies. I would not allow what a lot of the left wants to do, which is to override pro life protections throughout the country, all the way up really until the moment of birth in some instances, which i think is infanticide. I got to push back on that. Thats a misrepresentation of whats happening. I mean, that 1. 3 of abortions happen at 21 weeks or higher. Theres no evidence of democrats pushing for abortions up until but their view is that all the way up and to that, there should be not be any legal protections. There is no indication of democrats pushing for that. Yes, they are. They have done it in california. They have not instituted that policy. Yeah, they have. Yeah, they have. They basically will say if theres some type of theyll use like different ways to really have a wide exception for it. Its extremely rare. 1. 3 , and in those circumstances, theyre typically extremely emotional decisions. I dont say thats the norm in terms of this. I think the left in this country has moved on from a position that said, you know what, we do want to discourage abortion, its not something thats a good thing, to now viewing it more as a positive good for society, and i think most americans, regardless of how they feel on legal protections, i dont think most americans think its a positive good for society. Its obviously a tragic circumstance. Does that feel like maybe an argument that could win over moderates, which essentially, youre not talking governor about the sixweek abortion ban that you passed in your state, basically in the dead of night where youre steering away from that, youre just trying to say, this is what democrats want to do, and you mischaracterize what it is theyre trying to do across the country . Well, look, the Abortion Issue is pretty well defined by the American People now. They are not for extremes on either side. They are not for extremes in the beginning. Theyre not for extremes in the end. I think thats a position that the American People k

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