Skiff at maralago so the former president can review secret Prosecution Evidence at his home without having to go to a government facility. Our legal experts will weigh in. And the very latest on the utah man fatally shot by fbi agents while trying to serve a Search Warrant on him after he allegedly threatened the president , the Vice President , and manhattan da alvin bragg on line. Good day, everyone. Im Andrea Mitchell in washington. We start in hawaii today where conditions are finally improving at least for the crews battling three powerful wildfires raging still on maui. At least 36 people are dead. Officials say that number could soon rise as sunrise begins to reveal the extent of the devastation. Survivors described the situation as apocalyptic. Everyone i know is now homeless. In 36 hours, our town has been burned to ashes, nothing left. Lahaina appears to have been burned incredibly bad. There are a lot of very terrible stories coming out of there. And i am bracing for the morning. Unbelievable. It looks like baghdad or something. Oh, my gosh. Look oh, my gosh. The fastmoving fire took the Island Of Maui by surprise. Hospitals are overwhelmed, and 911 services are down in many areas. Thousands of tourists and residents are still being evacuated today, including one group that got terrifying close to the flames. Fire go lets go nbcs dana griffin, thats terrifying. Dana, i know youre at one of the shelters on maui. What are people telling you about their escapes . Reporter andrea, i literally just spoke to a woman moments ago, she said her home was destroyed. And i asked her, you know, how are you feeling about it. She says, things happen, which is surprisingly such a positive outlook considering so many lives have been lost. Pets, historic landmarks, homes destroyed. I mean, right now we are waiting to get an update on just how bad the devastation has been. We know that crews are going out at sunrise which is right now to assess the damage, to continue search and rescue, because as you mentioned the number of fatalities is likely to rise. Its 6 00 a. M. Local time, so a lot of people at the shelter are waking up. Weve chatted with a few of them. One guy from san diego, he didnt even make it to his hotel because the roads were blocked off. He described the smoke as mountains of smoke just sitting on top of lahaina. And its really devastating for this Tourist Community that relies on tourism for the local economy. So it is just a devastating image to see. We are hoping to get an upclose look later when they open up those roads, as far as when people will be allowed back in remains unseen. Dana griffin, thank you. And our hearts go out to all of those people there. Thank you so much, dana. And we have new developments today on the classified documents case in florida and former President Trumps codefendants. They did show up to be arraigned on that superseding indictment stemming from their alleged attempt to destroy maralagos security video and obstruct government investigators. Mr. Trumps personal aide, walt nauta, and maralago property manager de oliveira appeared in court. He did not have a local counsel and had to have his arraignment postponed. The former president waived his right to appear and entered a not guilty plea, as expected, through his legal team. Joining me, katie phang outside the courthouse in florida. New york times chief White House Correspondent peter baker. And former u. S. Attorney barbara mccabe. Take us through what happened this morning with defendants, the lawyers, judge cannon. And this is another delay. Reporter yes, so Carlos De Oliveira today took a page out of the Walt Nauta Playbook of delay. Walt nauta had his arraignment on two separate occasions to obtain counsel. There was a judge from West Palm Beach who was alongside mr. De oliveira claiming there were details that had to be ironed out before a notice of appearance that would indicate he is permanent counsel of record on behalf of Carlos De Oliveira. The judge set the arraignment for tuesday, august 15th. If mr. De oliveira fires the paperwork and mr. Trump did, de oliveira will not have to appear in court. I will note that not only was the delay sought but the delay was sought to august 25th. Why that date . That is the next hearing under the classified information procedures act, cipa, on august 25th, for the motion for protective order. De oliveiras council asked for the reset date. The magistrate date says no way. The judge wants all of the counsel to be situated, all codefendants to be arraigned prior to august 25th. So back on schedule i guess. Barbara, previously nauta needed the extra week to find a local attorney. This does come at a critical moment because judge cannon has been criticized for questioning jack smith about using information from the d. C. Grand jury as part of his documents case in florida, questioning why there were two grand juries which i think, barbara, to most lawyers was not that surprising given where the evidence is. Not only is it not surprising, andrea, its really inappropriate for a judge to be questioning the prosecutors discretion in using grand juries. This is something that the separation of powers structure of our Constitution Delegates solely to the Executive Branch. So it could very well be, for example, that a grand jury in d. C. Is investigating someone who lied to the grand jury there. That would be completely appropriate. And i think that jack smith needs to very politely, its awkward, but politely tell the judge to bud out of these Executive Branch matters. Peter, theres another surprising twist from the trump lawyers. They request to reestablish a skiff or really rather to build one now because they have to be updated all the time, to review the classified documents at the same location, at his residence basically, where trump allegedly concealed them from investigators. But you know, i guess trump from his perspective not to have to go into a government facility, so that he could basically do it at home. Where does that stand . Yeah. Hes a former president. Hes asking for an accommodation that an ordinary defendant wouldnt get. I dont know that thats incredibly important issue, but it is one more way of delaying things. The more requests like this you make, the more issues you raise, the more, you know, controversies or requests you make, you push it further and further down the road. I think thats the strategy. Weve seen asked for a judge to be recused, ask for a change of venue, ask for a skiff in your own place. Whatever it is, you just throw out anything you have the legal ability to throw out and see if that cant come up the gum up the works. It is important that any Examination Documents be protected. As weve seen, the whole point of the case is he had them in maralago without having a skiff or secure facility. He had them in the ballroom, in the bathroom. If he had only asked for a skiff from the beginning and asked for permission to have these documents, he wouldnt be in the trouble hes in now. Or turn them over when they were first subpoenaed. Barbara, the special counsel issued a Search Warrant for Donald Trumps twitter account. Than unusual in this kind of case, but twitter fought against it. They wouldnt turn it over, they missed a deadline. They had to pay a 350,000 fine. So what do you think theyre looking for in his twitter account since his tweets would be public and accessible. Are they looking for direct messages . What do you thinks going on there . They could be looking for any of those things. What i think is they are looking for evidence that could be presented at trial. So you know, you cant just grab a screen shot off your own phone and say this was Donald Trumps tweet. You have to be able to authenticate it. The best way is to get the official records from twitter, get a custodian of records to say yes i reviewed the records and those are the accounts assigned to donald trump. It is routine, and the fact that twitter resisted producing this is really surprising to me. If these Search Warrants are done every day in all kinds of cases, it remains to be seen why donald trump received this special treatment. Let me ask you about the skiff, as well, because they are updated all the time. They have to be managed by the intelligence community. Does the federal judge have the right to make an order that he get a skiff, or does that have to come from the Executive Branch . Yeah, Skiffs Are Certified by the cia and the director of national intelligence. So i dont know that the judge can even order this. But strikes me as just another delay ploy. Knowing that this request will be denied, which i think is absolutely, 100 likely, it will then build in Donald Trumps argument, well, okay then, have it your way. Now i guess we have to go into the skiff at the fbi, at the courthouse every time i want to look at documents, i can only do it during the hours of the to 5 00 9 00 to 5 00. It will take months to go over the documents. This is part of strategic messaging to build in more delay. Thanks to all of you. And close call. An alleged assassination plot against President Biden ending in a shootout hours before the president s event nearby. Thats next. christina wanna know the secret ingredient to running my business . tina her. christina being all over, all at once. tina all the time. christina but my old network wasnt cutting it. 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The fbi has shot and killed a utah man while trying to serve a Search Warrant on him after he posted a string of frightening online threats against President Biden, Vice President harris, and Manhattan District Attorney alvin bragg. Joining me is former fbi Assistant Director for counterintelligence. Frank, lets start with the operation itself. You know, this is obviously something the fbi does not want. Obviously, you know, a tragedy for the man, his family. How does this happen . And how tense do you think this Early MorningSearch Warrant procedure was . Yeah, its never a good day when theres a fatality in any of these operations. This was a s. W. A. T. Operation which in hindsight was the correct way to handle this. The man, mr. Robertson, had an arsenal of weapons in his home, multiple long guns, assault weapons, and pistols. Obviously weve all now read through the affidavit. Weve seen the postings on two Social Media Platforms that are extremely specific as to time, place, and method of how he would kill alvin bragg, the manhattan da, and then fbi agents investigating him and then ultimately the president of the United States who was hours away from landing in utah when this went down in the morning. So the s. W. A. T. Team approach this guy remember back in march investigating agents had met with him, tried to get some bearings as to whether this guy meant it or not. He actually told them, hey, were done here. Come back with a Search Warrant or arrest warrant. So that didnt go away. In fact, he escalated with attacking the agents on line and saying he wanted to kill them, too. With that specificity, u. S. Attorney went and got a warrant, a drone was sent in, a Barricade Situation started. And then im told by sources he reached for a weapon, pointed it at an agent, and that ended the day for this man. And lets talk about the fact that there were all these messages on line. Theyd been observing him for a while. Was the idea that as long as they knew he was at home they didnt consider him a threat to the manhattan da or the president of the United States who doesnt go every day to provo, utah . Right. Theres always a balancing here of, hey, how do we handle this. We tried talking to him, hes continuing and escalating. Hes not looking like hes traveling. Then the Secret Service will tell you they cant surveille somebody 24 7 whos thinking about and planning to kill the president. To the point when the president is traveling to the same state and this guy is specific saying i know hes coming, im dusting off my sniper rifle, my gilly suit, its time to move here. Youve got the makings of three counts that hes been charged with. Look, the Bigger Picture here is this is something called socastic terrorism. Weve seen it before. People incited to violence by someone elses idealogy. We saw it in droves on january 6th. We saw it at fbi cincinnati when a man tried to breach the Reception Room there and died. So it keeps happening, and im sorry to say we may continue to see this happening. Frank, its very alarming and so true. Thank you. And thanks but no thanks, donald trump saying he will not sign the rnc pledge to support the partys eventual nominee. The implications on the Nomination Process and next weeks debate coming up. Youre watching Andrea Mitchell reports. Ports. Have fun, sis cant stop adding stuff to your cart . Get the Bank Of America customized cash rewards card, choose the Online Shopping category and earn 3 cash back. Age is just a number, and mines unlisted. Try boost® high protein with 20 grams of protein for Muscle Health versus 16 grams in ensure® high protein. Boost® high protein. Now available in cinnabon® bakeryinspired flavor. Learn more at boost. Com tv i gotta good feeling about this, yeah now available in cinnabon® bakeryinspired flavor. 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