Governor, jeff duncan, confirms to the newspaper that he was notified that he will testify before the grand jury on tuesday. It is all coming as trump is making his first public appearance at the Iowa State Fair today since the protective order ruling in his Election Interference trial. Here is what he told our own Vaughn Hillyard moments ago. I dont have to take a look at it. The whole thing is a fake. Its about biden. They put it out because they cant win an election the fairway. It is all overblown Election Interference. Biden put it out because he cant win the fairway. He is right down in the polls. Mr. Trump, did you intend to overturn the 2020 election. You know the answer to that. Joining me is former federal prosecutor on kyushu dory. And nbc news justice reporter, ryan reilly. Also the author of sedition hunters. Set to be released in october. Let me start with you on this one in the pekingese we are following out of Fulton County. The a. G. Sea getting word now that tuesday they will be hearing a grand jury and the former Lieutenant Governor integral, she, of course to the d. A. s case. What do you make of it . It seems like after a fairly long investigation that fani willis is bringing it to her conclusion. She has signaled for quite some time now. It is unclear whether mr. Duncan would be the last witness. With this would be right before turning indictments or if there would be something more. It does suggest that miss willis and her team might begin revealing or getting some indictments returned as soon as this week. Talk about building the choreography of a case like this one. In front of a grand jury with just two days time, possibly. How do they decide what comes when . This is a very complicated presentation. As your question, correctly, assumes. Right . Prosecutors might be able to choreograph start and things. But at the end of the day the maim of the game is putting in evidence. Making sure the grand jurors have the relevant law and the relevant facts that the prosecutors are making available to them in order to make an appropriate determination. It seems like miss willis also wants to make sure they can see some of the potentially key players in the underlying facts. To make their own assessments about their credibility. In particular, one thing that may be notable to them is their political affiliations, right . The fact that, and mr. Duncans case, a fellow republican who has nevertheless been quite consistent in denouncing mr. Trumps efforts. Who, therefore, it could be a rather important witness for the case. We have talked repeatedly about this but i think it is important to reiterate. Talking a little bit about the possible charges we will be looking at. Specifically the rico charges. The racketeering charges. How that applies to the State Of Georgia miss willis has apparently been determining whether or not she might bring some charges in a variety of statutes including the states rico statue. Statutes of pattern on a federal statute. That is designed to allow the government to go after large complex Organized Crime networks. That is usually how its done, right . In Organized Crime cases thats how we tend to hear about it. But this particular using this statute in a particular or novel way. Patterns that we dont normally see them. And this might be. One she has also used in earlier back to gay shuns. It can be a way to tie together very stalling fact patterns. But it also does come with some potential downsides. The rico statues, at least a federal one and i imagines day one has a very arcane requirement. Some highly technical requirements. Sometimes that troops prosecutors up when cases come before a jury. That is a long way. Out the next step is to see what charges he might bring in what they would look like and what factual allegations are. Ryan riley allen talk specifically about jack smiths Election Interference case. I know you are in the courtroom for the protective order on friday. Take us inside the courtroom what happened . The judge essentially setting the parameters saying that the message needed to get through that she is in charge of the courtroom. Her biggest priority is making sure that this case gets to the point where i can go to trial. Regardless of whether or not when she referred to Donald Trumps day job is the embarked important thing here. She was making clear that the most important thing here is getting the case to trial. That takes the priority. Everything else might have to take a backseat. I think she used the world yield six different times meaning she thinks that whatever Donald Trumps political motivations are whatever his outside tug is when running for president , her priorities making sure that the case moves forward, gets to a point where they can get a jury selection. If there is a situation where this becomes a circus like atmosphere, and that only speeds up the timeline. Meaning they need to get to a point where they will be able to select that jury. Way to do that is to move forward. Making this ball rolling forward rather than making out of Court Statements that are really gonna impact how this case seen overall i want to draw on what ryan just talked about there. Read exactly what the judge has said in the courtroom. Talking about how this could really speed things up. Kind of seeming like a threat to the defense there. The fact that he is running a Political Campaign which currently have to go to the orderly administration of justice and if that means he cant exactly what he wants to say about people who may be witnesses in the case, that is how its gonna have to be. She then went on to say the more party makes inflammatory statements about this case, which you obtained the jury pool or intimidate potential witnesses, the greater the urgency will be that we proceed to trial quickly. What do you make of this overall statement that we are hearing from the judge . I thought that the judge handled this clay well in quite cleverly. Her concern, understandably is he my continue to make statements that might be inflammatory, effect witnesses endures. She did not threaten him with a gag order or threatened to revoke his bail. Both of which wouldve been dramatic escalations and caused an uproar on conservative media and among donald trump supporters. What she did is threaten the thing which he feared the most. Having this trial move up its timeline, potentially before the republican primaries before the November 2024 election. That is the thing, i think, that is most problematic for trump. The Name Of The Game right now is to try to push these cases back as well as possible. Ideally past the 2024 election. She appears to be seen right through that and identify the appropriate Leverage Point at this juncture. Thank you lets switch gears here. We are following up Breaking News out of hawaii. These of pain from these historic wildfires here that tore through lahaina. They are now turning to anger. Anger about what might have gone wrong. Anger and trying to get to whatever is left of many peoples homes. Seeing what survived. Nbc news is Steve Patterson is back with us. Steve, talk to. As we spoke about last hour of course. I see that line of cars behind you. What more have you been seeing . . As you can imagine there is a lot of frustration as you can imagine people trying to get back to see their homes. This is the roadblock i mentioned earlier. This line has been really solid the past day or so. People have been waiting in this line i keep saying it because it is true. 15 hours they are trying to get pastoral block. You can see the crews going in now. That has been consistent. Police are letting people in with supplies and Service Agencies go through. They are letting, of course, other police and other local Law Enforcement agencies go through. As far as residents, citizens with Identification People who have Hotel Indemnification who maybe had luggage that they left back at the hotel, they are not letting the people through. This also includes people who vitally need to get back to their families. We need to get back to the pets. Maybe they have medication that they need to deliver to people who are in need beyond borders like this. Now, police are giving a circuitous route on the north of the island. There is another way to get there. Every resident ive spoken to says there is one lane highways with no shoulders when you send all the people back that way that rooted can be filled up, as well. As you can imagine people are very angry. This is a high attention, high anxiety, situation. After people have lost so much. We spoke to one gentleman about what hes going through after waiting all the time of being told he cant go through. Listen to this. They need to stop closing the road to people acting a fool and Start Holding those people accountable and he did hold it open if you need to make an arrest, if you need to make things happen, make that happen for those individuals and start setting the example. He responsible once can keep going through and keep getting supplies in. He is talking about the situation in reference to the fact that, he believes, people are not letting people through not only because there is a traffic jam up ahead, but because of a few bad actors and crowd like this you are doing the wrong thing. Hopping out of their cars, using their phones in the wrong places in the middle of the highway. He is very upset because he feels like a few of the people around him if everyone else, especially when were talking about, essentially, and humanitarian situation. This is not a few people who are upset about a traffic jam. These people really need to get back there in some cases. That is the situation on the ground on top of, obviously, investigations into the Emergency Response that was held during the fire. Walking into the state agencies. Why didnt the sirens go off . Those Text Messages were sent out, how many actually got them . All of this part of the frustration that is mounting with citizens. We will be going back there when they get there to find, in many cases, nothing. That is the situation here in hawaii. Frustration, anger and sadness. We are seeing it all there. Steve patterson, thank you. By the way, coming up later on this hour im going to speak to one maui resident whose catamaran has helped get people to safety after those devastating fires. Trey garnished joins me with what he has been seeing a had. He did not want to miss that conversation. A conversation winning the release of americans held in iran. Not everyone is happy about it. In 60 seconds i will speak to Jason Rosario from the Washington Post he was held captive himself in around for 544 days. Stay tuned for that, well be right back. Thats why this qb profers the new five meat beast. And this qb profers it. And if we profer it. We know youll profer it too. Are you trying to outspokesperson me . Maybe. Age is just a number, and mines unlisted. 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But these agreement comes at a Reporter Cost of Six Billion Dollars, which we should note is only supposed to be used for humanitarian purposes. To dig into more of this, my next guest, jason rezaian, was one of the only people who can truly imagine how these five americans are feeling right now, and he was of course unjustly held captive by the iranian government for 544 days, jason, my friend, good to talk to, you thank you for joining us on this, give me a sense of how you are feeling right now with this deal in place . What are your biggest concerns . Yasmin, first and foremost, my biggest concern is that could still fall apart. They have been conditionally released under house arrest. And it looks like it might take several weeks for the deal to be finalized. Another no, from my own experience, things can change from the iranian side until the last minute. So i will be very happy along with their families, along with all americans, when they leave iranian airspace. But for the moment, you know, i think they can relax a little bit, because any day outside of after you have spent as much time as they have inside is a breath of fresh air and freedom. How do you recover from that . You are one of the rare individuals that spent so much time these vigils now, as you are, though how do you recover from Something Like that being unjustly held . I will tell you, the scars will remain with me for the rest of my life. But i sort of decided very early on after my release that i wasnt going to get that lost that pass experienced by my life moving forward. Ive tried to report on cases of americans held in iran and other countries. And try to elevate their plights and advocate for them. And in a small way that has made my own difficult experience feel a little less like it was time wasted. But it is hard, i had the support of incredible family, wonderful friends and colleagues. Still, every days rogel. I want to talk a little bit about the reaction to this decision on a policy level, right . Of course we have been hearing a lot from republicans not being in favor of giving Six Billion Dollars back to the iranian government, even if it is for humanitarian purposes. And the question of how they are even going to regulate that. That aside, i am talking more about the activists. You and i have talked repeatedly about, obviously the efforts made about by the iranian woman, domestically and outside this country as well, after the killing of mahsa yuri. The question of whether or not this is a actions face to those people, seeing the American Government negotiate with the current iranian regime. I think, first of all, we have to separate the two issues. The freedom and safety of american citizens held wrongfully anywhere in the world has to be a priority of the u. S. Government. So while i can understand that people were upset about the idea that funds be released to the iranian regime, you also cant ignore them into oblivion. In the meantime, they are abusing and greatly mistreating americans. And so that is a priority that we have to respect and acknowledge. The other thing that i would say is that these funds that are going to go back to iran, however they are going to be used, are not funds that are controlled by the u. S. , they are not funds that have ever been in the u. S. , there are funds that are held in korea oil revenue. It went into specific counts over the years. These sorts of accounts of have existed since 2012 when the Trump Administration down in countries like turkey, china, italy, and others. So, you know, its a little bit disingenuous to say that u. S. Government is paying iran this money. Whats actually happening is that they have used a really kind of ingenious piece of leverage to their favor, and i think ultimately the truth is that Six Billion Dollars is not going to change the equation, or the realities of the iranian regime. It is a regime that is, failing it is a regime that cannot afford keeps off going. It is trying desperately to get money wherever it can. And for a country of 85 million people, 6 million is not that much. Jason rezaian, my friend, as always, we are thankful for you. Appreciate it. Thank you. Still ahead, everybody, a big win for Abortion Rights supporters in ohio, as it becomes he lays the state to prove that one abortion is on the ballot, voters are overwhelmingly choosing to protect it. Ohio congresswoman Chantal Brown joins me to talk with. That and what it means for democrats in the next election. Plus, he won only Reverend Al Sharpton joins me with a preview of his exclusive interview with Vice PresidentKamala Harris. 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