In less than 12 hours the District Attorney fani willis will begin presenting her election interference case to a granary in georgia. Indictments for donald trump and his allies could come down as soon as tuesday evening. Breaking tonight, we are learning about one possible focus of witnesses presentation. A Voting System breach in Coffee County. That is a rural heavily republican area of the state. Now, Text Messages and emails reference in public Court Documents show that lawyers working for trump, coordinated a visit to Coffee Countys Election Office along with Data Specialists hired by ex trump lawyer and Conspiracy TheoristSydney Powell. The big breaking siren tonight, cnn is now reporting that those Text Messages are indeed part of fani williss investigations and to understand the importance of this revelation i want to give you a little bit more context about it lets go back in time for a moment here. On January 7th 2021 the date after the capital Insurrection Data Forensics Experts from atlanta, from atlantabased firm known as Sullivan Strickler and thats a firm that Sydney Powell hired, allegedly copied information from the Voting Machines in Coffee County in an effort to prove rampant voter fraud existed in the state. Now, the heavily republican part of the state that went overwhelmingly for donald trump might not seem like the most obvious place to find voter fraud but Coffee County used machines made by dominion Voting Systems which was the target of a attacks and conspiracies pushed by fox and conservatives. Video footage obtained last year by nbc news shows kathy latham the former chair of the Coffee County gop escorting the group into the Elections Office. Its worth noting here that they served as one of georgias face electors. We could talk about that in a bit the guardian reports that prosecutors believed they have sufficient evidence for a racketeering case. Which would mean charges for not just trump but actually multiple people. Here is the part that might matter most with this Coffee County situation. Quote, the statute itself prohibits the intentional use of a computer or Computer Network without authorization in order to remove data. , either temporarily, or a permanently. It also prohibits interrupting or interfering with the use of a computer as well as altering or damaging a computer. The fact that trumps allies had their eyes on Voting Machines in georgia thats not necessarily new, under of the former white House Counsel derek lions told a jerry Six Committee that Rudy Giuliani spoke about how the Trump Campaign was, quote going to be able to secure access to Voting Machines in georgia through means other than seizure. Todays developments signals this part of the alleged plan to reverse the 2020 Election Results will likely be a big part of the willis case. Meanwhile witnesses are waiting in the weeks just a few, Former GeorgiaLieutenant Governor jeff Duncan George cheat there are both set to testify before the grand jury on tuesday. Former state senator jen jordan, state representative bee nguyen, they have also been subpoenaed. Both attended hearings where Rudy Giuliani had urged officials not to certify the georgia Election Results based on debunked conspiracies. Finally, two and a half years after willis first launched her investigation, we are going to learn just how far trump and his allies were apparently willing to go to try to subvert the will of voters in georgia, and the American People at large joining me now to break all of this down, Danny Cevallos, msnbc legal analyst and criminal defense attorney, Jennifer Reuben msnbc political analyst and an Opinion Writer at the washington post, and routinely audio of, a political strategist and opinion colleague us at the daily beast. I will start with you, if fani willis were to use these text that we are learning more about in that other networks have been reported are central to the investigation just walk us through what that means to a possible racketeering charge, how significant will it be that she has these texts showing multiple people involved, people that were linked to the trump orbit. , first georges racketeering statute or rico, as its often called is much broader than its federal counterpart, all you need is an enterprise and the enterprise could be the Trump Campaign it could even arguably the presidency. You need some kind of organization and then a pattern of Racketeering Activity The Georgia Statute lays out about 20 different violations of statutes that can count, in other words racketeering is defined by at least two other crimes that are committed in the course of racketeering. You dont necessarily need to prove the crimes but you need to articulate them so in this case most of the crimes would fall under georgia or voter fraud. These newly acquired Text Messages, to me tend to show, i would least say that the state prosecutors might use those text to show that pattern of Racketeering Activity and the violation of one or more, excuse me in these to be two or more of the Predicate Statutes but thats the kind of evidence that shows communication between people and racketeering does require those other people. There are so many different options even within the rubric of Election Fraud for prosecutors under the georgia statute that the emergence of these Text Messages create a lot of possibilities for prosecutors. Jennifer, another part of the reporting we saw today is that Election Officials allegedly sent a letter of invitation to trumps then lawyers, it was also shared with members of the tech firm who entered the Elections Office in Coffee County, if these local officials are swept up and potential recultured is, what kind of impact will that have. Well, its exactly correct that what we are looking for is a criminal enterprise, now, Fani Willis Is the District Attorney for fulton county. So, there are two predicate acts youre speaking of. You have to have them within fulton county. You could then go outside of fulton county, including to whatever occurred in Coffee County and use that as part of the rico case. That may include trump directly, that may include other associates of trump. That may include local officials. Now, some of these people may already be indictable on other charges. Other charges. Other charges. Other charges. Other charges. Other charges. Other charges. Other charges. Other charges. Other charges. Other charges. Other charges. Other charges. Other charges. Other charges. Other charges. Other charges. Other charges. Other charges. Other charges. Other charges. Other charges. Other charges. On the direct fraud, case on the appearance with an official case. As he said, these indictments and. He feels like his empowered by fighting against the deep state, the swamp, any nickname he wants to call people who is simply looking purchase at. I think talking about general election voters, i think the average american person, once they see that someone wants to be in the white house, multiple criminal charges, continues to deny crime, its pretty obvious that theyve committed, i think most voters, My Hope Come November if donald trump is the nominee are going to reject that at the polls. I think hes built up such a cult following, its going to be very hard for people that already support him to run away now. If they drink the koolaid. Danny, i will go back to a point that jennifer made, i thought it was very interesting which is the difference between jack smith and fani willis. Jack smith, as far as we can tell, i mean we know it was mentioned the diamond, obviously it superseding indictments that may change this. There is no mention of Coffee County the coconspirators are not mentioned by name we dont know how into the weeds hes going into georgia except for some of the items identified in that. Thats including the phone call to Brad Raffensperger walk it through why youth he think he did not pursue the investigation into whats happening and Coffee County why might that be different than Fani Willis Is, is it jurisdictional, is there a bigger strategy in terms of the charges hes crafting to go after trump and what fundi bots is. Doing the short answer is he probably didnt need to he didnt need to get into Coffee County to achieve his objectives. By that i mean special counsel jack smith everything about the d. C. Indictment signals that jack smith is looking to streamline this federal prosecution. To get to trial as soon as possible. There are unindicted coconspirators. They are not named personally because additional name defendants would slow the case down. There would be motions to dismiss. Motions to sever motions to transfer a venue. Those would be times five if you added five more codefendants on to that case. So, while jack smith may have known about Coffee County he might not have seen that as important to what he needed to achieve. Of course, the state and federal statutes are difference, even the rico statute. Georgias rico statute is probably broader than the federal rico statute thats probably why jack smith didnt charge it in a sense, jack smith smithson is a little different in that he cannot be seen to charge anything that is remotely along. Shot everything about that indictment is conservative in the sense that he charges that which he thinks he can make up and thats why the incitement to riot or any of the crimes that might be a long shot or that might have a First Amendment defense. Thats probably the. Difference we may never know what was in the minds of either jack smith or Fani Willis Is in terms of what they wanted to pursue. Give me your final thoughts, we may very well see a former president face his fourth indictment. To paraphrase something my colleague Reach Out Maddow has that history will not judge the Department Of Justice or jack smith or fani willis for indicting donald trump but they will history will judge america for electing President Trump and may again put him in the oval office. Well, i really do hope and we will have to see what happens coming this Nomination Process and in the general election, i think American People see the truth. Here i think that the way the federal government with jack smith and the prosecuting george or are laying out facts, its going to be really, really hard for the common average person looking at the facts and seeing whats happening to turn away flint and simply say that whats happening here wasnt a threat to democracy. Wasnt a threat to our country. So, i really appreciate it. Any american who cares about our democracy, cares about the country that has been built on the tenants have actually having a Good Government that works for people they are going to come out another way to vote in november against this sort of antidemocratic tendencies. The facts are obvious. Donald trump for a long time has played with justice. Fought against truth. The truth is coming out. Im confident that people are going to vote against. You are absolutely right, with the framing of democracy. We will be on the ballot. Its this time. 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Well, the report last month from the University Of Chicago found that between april and june of 2023 americans agreeing that the use of force is justified to Restore Donald Trump to the presidency increased from 4 , from 4. 5 to 7 . Now, that might not sound like a big jump, if its an increase of 6 Million People from 12 to 18 million, you get a sense of how significant it is. Just days after u. S. District judge Tanya Chutkan was named to the trump election interference case, nbc news reports she has, now u. S. Marshals following her to protect her. This as trump criticizes judge chutkan, excuse me, judge Chutkan On Social Media on a daily basis. According to reuters, Political Violence in the United States is at its highest since the 1970s. It contrasts to the 70s, the violence is overwhelmingly aimed at people rather than property. Its coming from the right. Joining me now is clint watts, Msnbc National Security analyst and acme, Again Cevallos and Jennifer Reuben. Let me start by talking about the news of this week, this Fatal Shooting of a man in utah who had threatened to