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MSNBCW Jose July 3, 2024

Sentence. How did Danielo Cavalcante manage to escape from prison. And welcome to a special second hour of jose diazbalart reports. We begin this hour with the big week ahead in georgia, the clock is ticking for the final seven defendants in the wide ranging election interference case to enter their pleas or get ready to appear for their arraignment on wednesday. Joining us now nbc news justice and intelligence correspondent, ken dilanian, Danny Cevallos and veteran prosecutor paul henderson. Ken, where do things stand now as we await that wednesday deadline . Good morning, jose. Obviously the courts closed on this holiday, and we fully expect that all of these defendants will either waive appearance or come in and enter a plea in what is really a formality, this arraignment. The Big Questions looming over this case have to do with scheduling, have to do with whether mark meadows will be successful in his bid to get his particular portion of the case moved to Federal Court. And if he is, whether donald trump will try to follow suit and whether some of these defendants were pursuing early speedy trials will get their wish and go on trial this fall, and whether that will then give Donald Trumps attorneys a free crack at some of the evidence and the witnesses. So a lot of looming questions over this case, one of obviously four against the former president , jose. So danny, what are you watching for as we get closer to this trial . Jose, i hate to answer a question with a question. I think the answer is what trial . There could be several different trials. There are defendants seeking to sever themselves from the other defendants, defendants asking for speedy trials, other defendants wanting anything but a speedy trial. Part of this case is in Federal Court. A lot of people are calling that a request for, say, mark meadows to move his case to Federal Court. It is not a request. The defendant removes and now its the prosecutors job, the State Prosecutor to try and drag this case back down to state court. She may succeed, but for now, there are two different courts, federal and state, two different sovereigns handling this case. So what trial . I guess the soonest trial, even that set trial date i dont think is likely to go forward. And given that there is a current rico case in Fulton County that has had eight months of jury selection, its not likely that even when this first trial starts it will be done within a year. And so, paul, what do you make of Kenneth Chesebro asking again for his case to be severed from the rest, this time saying he doesnt want to be tried with Sidney Powell because chesebros attorney said he never directly communicated with powell. Right, i think thats whats going to drive the train in terms of whats going to happen next. Those big motions that we were alluding to about the motion to sever and the motion to remove, thats referencing the speedy trial motion. I think thats going to be the big Decision Maker in terms of how this case proceeds because the batch of defendants is likely going to be split in two in terms of those that are demanding their speedy trials and want to move forward and those that do not that get severed and have to be put off for whatever reason. I think thats going to drive the training about how these two dockets of defendants are going to be treated. I suspect that even is going to wait, and i suspect that trump will try to be, if those cases get split up and the trial has to be split into two different dockets, that trump will want to be in the latter docket, he will try to use that to his advantage, so that he can watch and hear the information and the evidence that prosecutors all have, and we will see a whole process that i alluded to before in georgia of rolling transparencies, of evidence, of testimony, and witnesses cross pollinating some of the other indictments that weve seen throughout the country. Thats what i think is going to happen next, and thats what im looking for. Yeah, meanwhile, ken, the judge has already said that much of the trial is likely to be televised. That sort of transparency is sort of the norm in georgia but on the national stage, how rare is this. Obviously jose, its not uncommon for trials to be televised at the state level that are of national interest. Think of the recent Alex Murdaugh trial in South Carolina or the Derek Chauvin trial in minnesota. Whats different here is that this is a case that really has enormous implications for our democracy and two of the main cases against donald trump theyre in Federal Court with no possibility of any television, any visibility on the proceedings at all or audio recordings for that matter. So this is the only shot at the public getting to see donald trump on trial if, in fact, this case goes forward to a trial with donald trump as a defendant. Thats why the stakes are e near enormous here. Its kind of a travesty because its important for the public to see this evidence in a trial that you cant think of larger implications for the democracy than for these trials. Were also expecting the Fulton County grand jury to have their report released in the next couple of days . What are you watching for there . We will probably be printing that out, i and many other legal analysts, printing that out, taking the Fulton County indictment, and comparing them. And the Defense Attorneys will be looking closely to see if theres anything inconsistent, anything they can mine in that document. Youll recall that there was a somewhat unredacted version that was released earlier. That was in terms of redactions still mostly a redacted document. A lot of people will be watching closely to see to what degree this earlier grand jury report now that its unsealed will compare to the actual Fulton County indictment that came months and months later and see how much they match up, to what degree there may be some inconsistencies, look for the defense to capitalize on that. Paul, how important is that report to williss case . I think its absolutely important because it shows her hand, where she thought her strongest legal arguments are going to be, and to whom blame is going to be aligned with, and so all like we just talked about, a lot of those defendants are going to be saying how can i wiggle through and try and place the blame other places, and weve already started to see that coming from the other defendants that are being arraigned, weve even seen that in the motions theyre making up to sever the case to go to Federal Court where theyre talking about, hey, the reason that i am indicted is because i was following the orders of someone else. Of course all roads lead to donald trump, and so looking at those final charges will give an indication from the prosecution of who they think is going to be held accountable for the trial that they have upcoming and what role they played in that process. Thats why people really want to see that, and thats why the individual defendants are going to be looking at it carefully to try and craft their arguments to make the most persuasive argument they can to the court of why they are less accountable or not accountable because were seeing the defendants being treated differently in this case, depending on the roles they played based on the charges we had. Thats why all of this matters and people will be looking at that evidence as it rolls out very carefully. Ken dilanian, Dann Cevallos and paul henderson, thank you so much. Well soon know if conditions in the nevada desert, not sure theyre exactly feeling their trap. They havent been allowed out. Heavy rains turned the annual gathering into a massive, Miles Long Mud Pit Closing Roads prompting an Emergency Shelter in place with folks advised to ration food and water. Nbcs liz kreutz is at the Festival Entrance and Michelle Grossman is standing by with the forecast. Liz, how is it looking at this hour . Reporter hi, jose, you know, i would say that burners are probably pretty happy right now. The rain has stopped. Its been about 24 hours since theyve seen rain, and it looks pretty dry, so things are in some areas starting to dry up, but other areas its like where we are, the sticky, wet mud still, still very uncomfortable for some people. In fact, of these who have been able to get out, some are saying it wasnt so bad, but others were telling me i met a guy at the reno airport last night, who was so relieved to get out, almost in tears saying it was so uncomfortable. This whole ordeal has led people to trekking for miles through the desert to get out through the mud. In fact, one man told us he was so desperate to get home to his children that he was going to do whatever he could to get out. Im actually going to try to make a break for it. Theyre saying the gates are still closed by ive got a fourwheel drive car and im going to try to make it out. Im mostly worried about having to sit in line to get out of here with 70,000 people. Reporter and probably the most famous people to make this kind of trek is Comedian Chris Rock and dj diplo. They posted on social media that their whole Ordeal Trekking out of burning man through the mud and hitchhiking, Good Samaritans picking them up on the side of the road. I will say that a lot of the attendees have said this is part of the experience. Its part of the burning man way. This is what you come here for. We are in an extraordinarily remote part of the nevada desert. Everybodys sort of taking it in stride. We are starting to see cars trickle out, the roads starting to dry up. About a mile down the road where theres more cars going out, you can see them going slowly one by one making their way around flooded areas trying to get out. Jose. That sticky mud, you know what its great for is burning Mud Sculptures which im looking forward to seeing some of the elaborate ones that may have been created these last couple of days. Michelle, whats the weather looking like today for these folks . Hey, jose, well, looking much better. Were looking at sunshine, you can see that with liz. Notice her coat, its chilly. Were in the desert. We see those temperatures dip down at night. Hoping everyone still has fuel for their vehicles. Its dipped down into the 40s. Were now into the low 50s. Were expecting to keep that sunshine in place at least for the next week or, so which is great news, but not before we saw nearly two months of rain in just 24 hours. That was really over 3 4 of an inch of rain that fell. It doesnt sound like a lot, but its a desert. When that rain falls, it becomes runoff. It doesnt have vegetation to soak it up. As we go throughout tonight, expecting to burn the man, i think thats the phrase, mostly clear skies, it will be cool tonight around 9 00. Well see those temperatures dip into the 40s. Then were going to keep that sunshine in place. As we look at satellite and radar, we can see that the rain is falling, but its not falling in nevada. Its falling to the east. Now were looking at portions of utah. Were looking at flurries. The higher elevation, some wintry weather there and Rain Falling Throughout Montana and wyoming. Thats going to be the story as we go throughout the day. For your labor day forecast, heavy rains, some storms, a threat for Severe Weather in portions of the high plains, the Northern Rockies into parts of the central and northern high plains. Were looking at showers and storms also along the golf coast. Then The Big Story Today will be about the heat. Its the unofficial end of summer. Were going to feel like the middle of the summer in so many spots. Temperatures soaring in the northeast, midatlantic, the gulf coast states, the Northern Plains into the upper 90s, you factor in that humidity. Its going to feel like over 100 degrees. Lots of kids going Back To School tomorrow. We got some emails from our district saying there might be some early dismissals. Also, jose, we are looking at the chance for severe storms in portions of the Northern Plains, that includes Bismarck Down to rapid city. We do have rocky weather later on today. Back to you. Liz kreutz and Michelle Grossman, thank you both for being with us this morning. Sure. Coming up, the search for an escaped killer in pennsylvania is intensifying after he is spotted on a doorbell camera. Still wearing his prison outfit. The tense scene near the prison as the search enters its fifth day. We are back in 60 seconds. Youre watching jose diazbalart reports on msnbc. G jose diazbat reports on msnbc Chevy Silverado has what it takes to do it all. With up to 13 camera views. And the z71 offroad package. You ok . Yeah. Any truck can help you make a living. This one helps you build a life. Chevy silverado. Helicopters are new to us, and theyve been low flying especially today. The lower they get the more concerned we are hes closer to where we are. 15 past the hour. Neighbors on high alert just outside philadelphia where a convicted killer is on the run after breaking out of prison. Police still have not said how Danielo Cavalcante escaped. Theyre focused on getting the murderer behind bars. We expect to hear the from the local d. A. George solis is outside that d. A. s office in westchester, pennsylvania. So what doe we know as of right now . Reporter yeah, good morning, jose. Some details that were expecting to learn during this 1 00 News Conference here outside of the d. A. s office, a source telling me that they believe there may have been another sighting of danielocavalcante in the wooded area where the doorbell footage captured him traversing through the heavily wooded area. It lets authorities know that he hasnt fled the area, that he still might be in that twomile Radius Outside of the Chester County prison where he escaped from. This is a massive manhunt by air, by foot. Authorities are swarming this twomile radius trying to find him. Obviously a big lead for them over the weekend came with that doorbell video when they saw him walking through that neighborhood. He was still wearing that prison attire, somehow he got a backpack. Authorities werent clear where that may have come from. This is a very heavily wooded area. This is a very small community. Its tightknit. People telling me they dont normally lock their doors. For this to be happening and playing out in realtime for them, it is very scarscary. Very unnerving. You have Police Officers with long guns stopping people and looking into their vehicles for any trace of this wanted killer. Authorities stress this guy is very dangerous. He escaped days after being sentenced for the murder of his exgirlfriend. Hes also wanted for a 2017 murder in his native brazil. Yesterday we had a brief moment inside one of those search zones. Spoke with a couple who was walking, and they were definitely frantic. Take a listen to what they told me. We have never seen anything like this before, and we are in the perimeter. Were very worried. Very concerned. Reporter yeah, jose, so again, Law Enforcement source telling me that there may have been another potential sighting, which sort of makes sense with what we were seeing yesterday. We saw a large convoy of Police Officers just racing into that search zone into a heavily wooded area. Were also hearing reports that with the choppers, theyre also yelling messages out in portuguese because, again, he is from brazil. Were expecting to learn a lot more details here into the afternoon as this manhunt enters its fifth day. Jose. George solis, thank you very much. Keep us updated, please. A new development this morning in the suspected gilgo beach serial killer case, a potential link between a missing South Carolina mom last seen in 2017 and the long island architect charged with several murders on long island. Investigators in sumpter county, South Carolina, say a tipster claiming to be a friend of Julia Ann Bean called to say of a connection between bean and rex heuermann. Local Authorities Say there are still no confirmed facts to bean or heuermann, but her case will remain open until she is found. Coming up, campaigning on four criminal indictments, the new poll showing donald trump gaining, gaining on his rivals since his latest legal troubles. And as students head back to class, growing concerns in new york about stretched resources as thousands of Migrant Children enroll there. 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