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Not stepping down on a growing pressure to resign. And, less than a week away from a growing possible shutdown, Kevin Mccarthys attempts to fund the government just got a whole lot more complicated. Then, hollywood writers reach a tentative deal with studios, well break down whats in the agreement, and what happens next, as the 11th hour gets underway this monday night. Good evening once again, im stephanie ruhle, were following developments in the multiple criminal cases against donald the champ. A judge has granted Fulton County d. A. Fani williss request to keep jurors identity secrets in any upcoming trial, Involving Trump and his 18 codefendants. This decision comes as we see new reporting from the New York Times about the rise in threats and intimidation as trumps criminal cases are moving forward. Earlier this evening, january six hearing witness, Cassidy Hutchinson, spoke to our own rachel maddow, about what attacks, about the attacks that come from donald trump himself. This year has helped me opened my eyes to the dangers of trump actually poses on people in these situations. I am not the only one. He wants to know hes getting a reaction, he thrives when he has an audience. It could be a negative audience, it could be an audience he likes, it could be his base. What he needs to hear people reacting to him. Thats when he knows in his mind that hes been successful to something. We all want the republic to survive, we all should want the republic to survive. But, in the way the mr. Trump trajectory is going, im not confident that he will have it survive. Meanwhile, were also following the latest in the Corruption Case involving new jersey senator jarman and this. His wife and three other individuals, new jerseys governor and several democrats in congress have already called on the senator to resign from his post. This evening, former House Speaker nancy pelosi spoke to my colleague jen psaki about this very subject. Charges are formidable, and if in fact were going to say that youre indicted, you should resign, we have a situation in the house as you know from the state of new york that that would hold two. But, right now, sadly because of the challenges that we face, because of skepticism that exists in our country about governance and about the Republican Party doesnt believe in governance, doesnt believe in science, wants to take down everything in order to give tax breaks to the wealthiest. We have to stay focused on that and for that reason itll probably be a good idea. This morning, the senator spoke out publicly for the First Time Since the charges were filed, and my colleague Jonathan Dean has more. Senator a defiant senator walked in to face a crush of cameras, as an accused criminal. When all the facts are presented, not only will i be exonerated, but i will be new jersey senior senator. Slamming prosecutors case. The allegations leveled against me are just that. Allegations. Allegations of an illegal bribery scheme, according to the indictment, new jersey democrat and his wife took gold bars, a mercedes, and piles of cash to help three new jersey businessman and the egyptian government. Menendez explaining how a half Million Dollars in cash bounced up in his Jacket Pocket and elsewhere around this home this way. For 30 years, i have withdrawn thousands of dollars in cash for my personal savings account. I have kept these for emergencies, and because of the history of my family Facing Confiscation in cuba. John fetterman posting in response, we have an extra flashlight for our home urgencies. Mendez made no mention of the gold bars or the mercedes. The indictment says the couple also accepted bribes, and as for allegations, he passed Sensitive Information to the egyptian government. I am clear and consistent Holding Egypt accountable. So far, President Biden has not commented on that case. Senator menendez and his codefendants are set to appear in court in new jersey on wednesday. With that, and we have a lot to get to, lets get smart with the panel this evening. Luke joins us, for New York Times, former federal prosecutor renata and susan, staff writer for the new yorker, coauthor of your husband who i think youre familiar with, peter baker, they wrote the divider. Susan, and we should also introduce susan as theos mom. All of our favorite guest on the 11th hour. Susan help, us out. What do you think of the comments today from Cassidy Hutchinson about the dangers donald trump poses, extraordinary to speak from her heart so bravely with rachel . You know, its striking how many people in the end have fallen out with donald trump who worked for him. The testimony was always coming from inside the room. This is a particularly dramatic example of that, because she was there at key moments as trumps efforts to overturn the 2020 election unfolded. But, i am struck by what a longstanding pattern this is. You can just listed a. Half the people running in the republican primaries worked for or with trump and broken with him, chris christie, the number of people who have provided damning accounts of trump have worked so closely with him. So, itll be interesting to see what reception her charges get. There is some really juicy tidbits in that book, by the way. Theyre sure are. Susan, i want to talk about something more grave, something that almost tracks with mob like behaviors, and they want to talk about this New York Times reporting, because one, professor proquoted when he talks about these threats their link to trumps indictments coming from trumps world, causing the most important drivers of Political Violence we have in america. We keep hearing about these warnings, but are people listening, are they taking it seriously that people tied to these indictments are getting serious threats . I think its an important question, because it strikes me that donald trump is a sort of desensitized all of us to his incredibly inflammatory rhetoric. Just the other day, he wrote that the chairman that joint Chief Of Staff should face death in capital letters, dea t h, death, because he committed treason according to trump of basically disagreeing with donald trump. This is incredible stuff. Yet, its not a front page headline when trump says hes incredible things when he incited his followers to arc in a violent way. It strikes me that its one of those things were after some tragic incident, were going to look back and say, well of course it shouldnt have been a surprise. Of course, mark milley did not commit treason in any way, shape, or form. Renato, lets talk about this order in georgia. For their safety, the jurors names and identities are going to be kept secret. What do we need to know . First of all, i think its an important point. It not only protects the identifying information, it even says, for example, the judge orders that no sketch can be done. Those Courtroom Sketches can have Identity Features of the jurors. In some jurisdictions, here are the judges making sure hes answering that order, because of course we have circumstance where at least one special grand jury became quite a Media Celebrity for a period of time. I think the concern here is regarding the safety of the jurors. You can have a situation where in the middle of a trial, for example, jurors are receiving third scared that if they render a verdict thats true and accurate of judges instructions, that they can face potential downside for themselves or their family. So, obviously the integrity and proceeding. So, its a serious matter. There are rots on jurors that does happen, judges, in fact in my own hometown we had a federal judge whose family was attacked. These are serious matters, and i think its understandable that the judge is doing what he can to protect the integrity. I need you to explain this one as well, because its complicated and important. This one is down in florida with judge cannon. She could end up making a decision about the Defense Lawyers for trumps codefendants in the maralago documents case. Can you explain what is happening there, and what it would mean to donald trump and the timing of these cases . Sure. So, this is for example the walt nada has a lawyer who have trump, that same lawyer actually used to represent some of the witnesses against trump like the i. T. Guy, for example, who was asked to delete video surveillance. That witness will be important for the governments. Essentially, what the government is saying here, with jack smith is saying, his and his team. He saying that this lawyer is going to cross examine his former client if he has to continue to represent waft nada. As you can imagine, the prosecution does not want a situation where they have to try this twice. They get a conviction against nauta, and then he claims that his lawyer was because he was too afraid of cross examining former client. This is one where the judge would be well advised to not have representing walt nauta. Nonetheless, i wouldnt be surprised if judge cannon just admonishes him about the potential, thats ultimately, there could be a potential to by his lawyer, hes not getting accurate presentation, of course he has a lawyer thats not going to make sure hes aware of the potential maybe he was interested in cooperating against trump either. Ultimately, at the end of the day, i dont expect judge cannon to do anything thats going to open up the door for a new lawyer here for donald trump. Lets say she says, no, were have to clean the slate, these guys need new lawyers. Wont that push back the dates . Wont that delay this trial even more, which is what donald trump actually wants more than anything, ronaldo. Thats possible, but i think having a lawyer whos truly independent will be an issue as well. Obviously, just because a different lawyer selected doesnt mean it could be a lower paid for by donald trump but, nonetheless, i think that at this point in time, trump world doesnt have a lot of spiritual criminal Defense Lawyers who are available and ready to go down to florida. Remember, whatnot took a while to figure out who would be represented by inperson. A lot of lawyers out theret of moment ago that he th dea guess i would say, seei itstheyre alread hold the kevin mcc be Coming Onl Actress whose are still out on strike. The 11th hour just getting underway on a very busy monday night. 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When some shows could be bac online and whats next for the actress whose are still out on strike the 11th hour just getting underway on a very busy monday night. Every day, businesses everywhere are asking is it possible . With comcast business. It is. Is it possible to help keep our Online Platform safe from cyberthreats . Absolutely. Can we provide health care virtually anywhere . We can help with that. Is it possible to use predictive monitoring to address Operations Issues . We can help with that, too. With the advanced connectivity and intelligence of global secure networking from comcast business. You didnt have to keep the its not just possible. Its happening. Government open. If people want to close the government, it can be a week. Do you believe you can pass the c r and send it out to the senate . I believe in everything. I never give up. A believer in everything . Wow in less than one week until the governor runs out of money, its serious crunch time for speaker Kevin Mccarthy and house republicans. But donald trump . Hes actually working against them calling for his own party to push that down unless they, quote, get everything. I want to bring in msnbc political analyst, matthew dowd. An msnbc political contributor jason johnson. All, right matthew, what do you think of donald trump not just getting involved. And when he says, you better get everything, do you think he actually knows what everything even means . Because i heard him talk about election interference, which actually has nothing to do with this. Well i think he knows what everything means in regards for himself. So, if everything means something for himself, he knows what that is. Everything as regards to the country, i dont think he has any idea what the country is good for the country. Because if he did he wouldnt be advocating for a shutdown in the midst of this. This to me is such a perfect example of the difference, obviously, but in the Republican Party today in the Democratic Party today. You may disagree with the democrats, but at least theyre trying to practice some rational form of governance and involve confidence involving in leadership. Republicans have no desire. Its all performance art. Its all some satisfying, some grievance, especially if its a grievance launched by donald trump. So thats where we are today. Donald trump is not running a president ial Campaign Based upon his ability to govern the country in the best possible way, or being competent. It is i will satisfy whatever grievance to have enough shutting the government down so this fisa grievance, shut it down. Jason, donald trump claims that whoever is the president gets the blame for a shutdown. That is absurd. The fact is that its republicans who are blocking it. But heres the question, when it comes to the american people, is he right . No. No. People arent dumb at this point. They tend to blame the party thats always calling for shutdowns. And for most of our lives its been republicans who have been calling for shut down. For them, its like theyre getting initiation, its like lets shut down the government, thats what we show how tough we. Are republicans do this all the time. And they dont face many consequences for it because many of them are enslaved gerrymandered districts where people except whatever kind of behavior so the consequences, in theory, or that people get upset about the lack of Government Services and ask the democrats to do something about it but thats completely different than being a democrat because they know theyre not responsible. So lets be clear, the only reason trumps doing this, at least one of the theory thats been proposed, that somehow in this head, he thinks that if theres a government shutdown, these investigations into most of. It doesnt work that way. Investigations continue. Even if theres a government shutdown. So most of this is typical nonsense from trump was still doesnt have a basic understanding about how the government works. The investigations arent going to stop. But a lot of other important things are, right . Youre going to have new mothers that live below the poverty line, that are not going to get access to Food Assistance that they need for their babies. Matthew, do you think people realize what is at stake . Its serious. This isnt something to get cute and political about. I mean theres some evidence that it takes a little while for people to gather the information of what just happened and how it affects them. And so in the immediate aftermath, in the immediate discussion as what happened today preempting it, people arent focused on it. Theyre worried about serving dinner, taking the kids to school, what are they going to just the kids up us for halloween in a month. Thats what theyre worried about. 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