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Not stepping down on a growing pressure to resign. And, less than a week away from a growing possible shutdown, Kevin Mccarthys attempts to fund the government just got a whole lot more complicated. Then, hollywood writers reach a tentative deal with studios, well break down whats in the agreement, and what happens next, as the 11th hour gets underway this monday night. Good evening once again, im stephanie ruhle, were following developments in the multiple criminal cases against donald the champ. A judge has granted Fulton County d. A. Fani williss request to keep jurors identity secrets in any upcoming trial, Involving Trump and his 18 codefendants. This decision comes as we see new reporting from the New York Times about the rise in threats and intimidation as trumps criminal cases are moving forward. Earlier this evening, january six hearing witness, Cassidy Hutchinson, spoke to our own rachel maddow, about what attacks, about the attacks that come from donald trump himself. This year has helped me opened my eyes to the dangers of trump actually poses on people in these situations. I am not the only one. He wants to know hes getting a reaction, he thrives when he has an audience. It could be a negative audience, it could be an audience he likes, it could be his base. What he needs to hear people reacting to him. Thats when he knows in his mind that hes been successful to something. We all want the republic to survive, we all should want the republic to survive. But, in the way the mr. Trump trajectory is going, im not confident that he will have it survive. Meanwhile, were also following the latest in the Corruption Case involving new jersey senator jarman and this. His wife and three other individuals, new jerseys governor and several democrats in congress have already called on the senator to resign from his post. This evening, former House Speaker nancy pelosi spoke to my colleague jen psaki about this very subject. Charges are formidable, and if in fact were going to say that youre indicted, you should resign, we have a situation in the house as you know from the state of new york that that would hold two. But, right now, sadly because of the challenges that we face, because of skepticism that exists in our country about governance and about the Republican Party doesnt believe in governance, doesnt believe in science, wants to take down everything in order to give tax breaks to the wealthiest. We have to stay focused on that and for that reason itll probably be a good idea. This morning, the senator spoke out publicly for the First Time Since the charges were filed, and my colleague Jonathan Dean has more. Senator a defiant senator walked in to face a crush of cameras, as an accused criminal. When all the facts are presented, not only will i be exonerated, but i will be new jersey senior senator. Slamming prosecutors case. The allegations leveled against me are just that. Allegations. Allegations of an illegal bribery scheme, according to the indictment, new jersey democrat and his wife took gold bars, a mercedes, and piles of cash to help three new jersey businessman and the egyptian government. Menendez explaining how a half Million Dollars in cash bounced up in his Jacket Pocket and elsewhere around this home this way. For 30 years, i have withdrawn thousands of dollars in cash for my personal savings account. I have kept these for emergencies, and because of the history of my family Facing Confiscation in cuba. John fetterman posting in response, we have an extra flashlight for our home urgencies. Mendez made no mention of the gold bars or the mercedes. The indictment says the couple also accepted bribes, and as for allegations, he passed Sensitive Information to the egyptian government. I am clear and consistent Holding Egypt accountable. So far, President Biden has not commented on that case. Senator menendez and his codefendants are set to appear in court in new jersey on wednesday. With that, and we have a lot to get to, lets get smart with the panel this evening. Luke joins us, for New York Times, former federal prosecutor renata and susan, staff writer for the new yorker, coauthor of your husband who i think youre familiar with, peter baker, they wrote the divider. Susan, and we should also introduce susan as theos mom. All of our favorite guest on the 11th hour. Susan help, us out. What do you think of the comments today from Cassidy Hutchinson about the dangers donald trump poses, extraordinary to speak from her heart so bravely with rachel . You know, its striking how many people in the end have fallen out with donald trump who worked for him. The testimony was always coming from inside the room. This is a particularly dramatic example of that, because she was there at key moments as trumps efforts to overturn the 2020 election unfolded. But, i am struck by what a longstanding pattern this is. You can just listed a. Half the people running in the republican primaries worked for or with trump and broken with him, chris christie, the number of people who have provided damning accounts of trump have worked so closely with him. So, itll be interesting to see what reception her charges get. There is some really juicy tidbits in that book, by the way. Theyre sure are. Susan, i want to talk about something more grave, something that almost tracks with mob like behaviors, and they want to talk about this New York Times reporting, because one, professor proquoted when he talks about these threats their link to trumps indictments coming from trumps world, causing the most important drivers of Political Violence we have in america. We keep hearing about these warnings, but are people listening, are they taking it seriously that people tied to these indictments are getting serious threats . I think its an important question, because it strikes me that donald trump is a sort of desensitized all of us to his incredibly inflammatory rhetoric. Just the other day, he wrote that the chairman that joint Chief Of Staff should face death in capital letters, dea t h, death, because he committed treason according to trump of basically disagreeing with donald trump. This is incredible stuff. Yet, its not a front page headline when trump says hes incredible things when he incited his followers to arc in a violent way. It strikes me that its one of those things were after some tragic incident, were going to look back and say, well of course it shouldnt have been a surprise. Of course, mark milley did not commit treason in any way, shape, or form. Renato, lets talk about this order in georgia. For their safety, the jurors names and identities are going to be kept secret. What do we need to know . First of all, i think its an important point. It not only protects the identifying information, it even says, for example, the judge orders that no sketch can be done. Those Courtroom Sketches can have Identity Features of the jurors. In some jurisdictions, here are the judges making sure hes answering that order, because of course we have circumstance where at least one special grand jury became quite a Media Celebrity for a period of time. I think the concern here is regarding the safety of the jurors. You can have a situation where in the middle of a trial, for example, jurors are receiving third scared that if they render a verdict thats true and accurate of judges instructions, that they can face potential downside for themselves or their family. So, obviously the integrity and proceeding. So, its a serious matter. There are rots on jurors that does happen, judges, in fact in my own hometown we had a federal judge whose family was attacked. These are serious matters, and i think its understandable that the judge is doing what he can to protect the integrity. I need you to explain this one as well, because its complicated and important. This one is down in florida with judge cannon. She could end up making a decision about the Defense Lawyers for trumps codefendants in the maralago documents case. Can you explain what is happening there, and what it would mean to donald trump and the timing of these cases . Sure. So, this is for example the walt nada has a lawyer who have trump, that same lawyer actually used to represent some of the witnesses against trump like the i. T. Guy, for example, who was asked to delete video surveillance. That witness will be important for the governments. Essentially, what the government is saying here, with jack smith is saying, his and his team. He saying that this lawyer is going to cross examine his former client if he has to continue to represent waft nada. As you can imagine, the prosecution does not want a situation where they have to try this twice. They get a conviction against nauta, and then he claims that his lawyer was because he was too afraid of cross examining former client. This is one where the judge would be well advised to not have representing walt nauta. Nonetheless, i wouldnt be surprised if judge cannon just admonishes him about the potential, thats ultimately, there could be a potential to by his lawyer, hes not getting accurate presentation, of course he has a lawyer thats not going to make sure hes aware of the potential maybe he was interested in cooperating against trump either. Ultimately, at the end of the day, i dont expect judge cannon to do anything thats going to open up the door for a new lawyer here for donald trump. Lets say she says, no, were have to clean the slate, these guys need new lawyers. Wont that push back the dates . 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Wow in less than one week until the governor runs out of money, its serious crunch time for speaker Kevin Mccarthy and house republicans. But donald trump . Hes actually working against them calling for his own party to push that down unless they, quote, get everything. I want to bring in msnbc political analyst, matthew dowd. An msnbc political contributor jason johnson. All, right matthew, what do you think of donald trump not just getting involved. And when he says, you better get everything, do you think he actually knows what everything even means . Because i heard him talk about election interference, which actually has nothing to do with this. Well i think he knows what everything means in regards for himself. So, if everything means something for himself, he knows what that is. Everything as regards to the country, i dont think he has any idea what the country is good for the country. Because if he did he wouldnt be advocating for a shutdown in the midst of this. This to me is such a perfect example of the difference, obviously, but in the Republican Party today in the Democratic Party today. You may disagree with the democrats, but at least theyre trying to practice some rational form of governance and involve confidence involving in leadership. Republicans have no desire. Its all performance art. Its all some satisfying, some grievance, especially if its a grievance launched by donald trump. So thats where we are today. Donald trump is not running a president ial Campaign Based upon his ability to govern the country in the best possible way, or being competent. It is i will satisfy whatever grievance to have enough shutting the government down so this fisa grievance, shut it down. Jason, donald trump claims that whoever is the president gets the blame for a shutdown. That is absurd. The fact is that its republicans who are blocking it. But heres the question, when it comes to the american people, is he right . No. No. People arent dumb at this point. They tend to blame the party thats always calling for shutdowns. And for most of our lives its been republicans who have been calling for shut down. For them, its like theyre getting initiation, its like lets shut down the government, thats what we show how tough we. Are republicans do this all the time. And they dont face many consequences for it because many of them are enslaved gerrymandered districts where people except whatever kind of behavior so the consequences, in theory, or that people get upset about the lack of Government Services and ask the democrats to do something about it but thats completely different than being a democrat because they know theyre not responsible. So lets be clear, the only reason trumps doing this, at least one of the theory thats been proposed, that somehow in this head, he thinks that if theres a government shutdown, these investigations into most of. It doesnt work that way. Investigations continue. Even if theres a government shutdown. So most of this is typical nonsense from trump was still doesnt have a basic understanding about how the government works. The investigations arent going to stop. But a lot of other important things are, right . Youre going to have new mothers that live below the poverty line, that are not going to get access to Food Assistance that they need for their babies. Matthew, do you think people realize what is at stake . Its serious. This isnt something to get cute and political about. I mean theres some evidence that it takes a little while for people to gather the information of what just happened and how it affects them. And so in the immediate aftermath, in the immediate discussion as what happened today preempting it, people arent focused on it. Theyre worried about serving dinner, taking the kids to school, what are they going to just the kids up us for halloween in a month. Thats what theyre worried about. Until the point at times the actual loss of services begins to happen, that is what happened and its a perfect example during the clinton years on how he got reelected instruct a strong way was here was an example, the republicans shut the government down. It took a little while. Americans realized what was going on, they blamed the party that did it as jason said. They figured it out. They blame the people that actually shut it down and actually reward the people that believe in competence which they did with bill clinton who was the president at the time. And so the American Public isnt focused on it like we, are in this moment. But at the point in time at which it starts hurting them then they get real focused on it. When you tell them the truth. They will listen. Lets talk about a new topic earlier today new jersey senator bob menendez said he will not resign despite this Felony Indictment on corruption charges. The governor of his state said he should, nancy pelosi wants him to, as well as another number of democratic lawmakers. What do you think is going to happen here . I think hes going to stay in, and stephanie as unpleasant as this may be my general philosophy has been that if you have an elected official who is in trouble, it is literally the job of the voters to decide if they want to be represented by somebody whos a crook. The voters get to decide. We may think its terrible, i may think, oh my gosh, why would you want somebody whos engaged in this behavior but i could say the same thing about matt gaetz, i could see the same thing about tons of people. The voters are gonna make the decision. Bomb ended this had decided for himself. I think i could still make the case that i represent the people of new jersey. And unless until they kick me out i am not leaving. So, unfortunately, this is the circumstance that i dont think the government able to ajoh thehow woul lawmakers jason on this. Adonald trump shoul accountable. Of agr wit jason on ts. Donpresent the state totell thd their representive based o hey wantnot. I think the Justice System should prevail, he should be held accountable i think the huge differenc that we see today is peopl believe Senator Menendez shoul be held accountable. Hunter biden should be hel accountable. Donald trump should be hel accountable. There is a better way to manage diabetes. The dexcom g7 continuous Glucose Monitoring system eliminates painful finger sticks, helps lower a1c, and its covered by medicare. Before using the dexcom g7, i was really frustrated. All of that Finger Pricking and all that pain, my a1c was still stuck. Before dexcom g7, i couldnt enjoy a single meal. I was always trying to outguess my glucose, and it was awful. 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Com. 146 along days of striking has hows the chicken . The prawns are delicious. Oh, i have a shellfish allergy. One prawn. Very good. Did i say Chicken Wrong . Tired of people not listening to what you want . Its truffle season ah thats okay. Never enough truffles. How much are they . Its a lot. Oh okay im good, that its like a priceless piece of art. Enjoy. Or when they sell you what they want . Yeah. The more we understand you, the better we can help you. Thats what u. S. Bank is for. Huge relief. Yeah. Finally delivered a tentative deal between hollywood writers and studios. The big question now, what comes next . My colleague brings us that story tonight. [applause] in its last chapter, tonight, The Reddish Dike is getting its [inaudible] after nearly five months on the big line, a tentative deal between the Writers Guild, and the writers that represents major studios make a big step towards resuming stalled productions. But the deal is still private as the wga tells members, though we are eager to share the details of what has been achieved with you, we cannot do that until the last is dotted. Its expected that will happen very quickly. But i am hearing from people who have seen what the dealers, and people who have heard what the deal is they are very happy. Finally, flipping the script on a nearly 150 day walkout. Its believed riders will earn higher residuals from streaming shows and Getting Better protection from scripts written using a. I. That could threaten future jobs. This is not about people in you know, drinking tropical drinks. Driving jack wires. Were talking about the middle class of our union. And were trying to keep our head above water. After shutting down studios across tinseltown, writers at late night and daytime talk shows could return to working in just a matter of days. But new episodes of your favorite scripted shows may not be back on the air until january. The wga not encouraging its members to join actors in its Union Sag Actra who remains on the picket line. Fighting for some of the very same benefits. I feel like the moment to this. Theyre the vibe, the studio, and streamers are locked in to make a deal. And everybody wants to find a way that they could get people back to work, get paycheck showing up in Bank Accounts tonight, the actors are left waiting for their queue. Rioters are set to ink their deal. [applause] i like the sound of that celebration. For more, lets bring in ben white, chief wall street correspondent at the messenger. And cnbc contributor. And steph harris, former acting u. S. Secretary of labor under president obama. He is not a Senior Fellow at the bryn center for social justice. Ben, and an email to union members, the wga called this contract exceptional. Break it down for us. Whats in it . Well, it sounds good. I dont know exactly what didnt. But they definitely got some significant gains on wages. Theyve got some significant gains on Artificial Intelligence and not being replaced by Artificial Intelligence. It sounds like the solidarity in this union paid off. I mean it could probably pay off the actors to. Well see in the coming days whether they can emeralds similar deal to what the rioters just got. But it just shows you, stephanie, that the power of unions is really significantly higher than its been at anytime in our recent history. And this sounds like a good deal, and it sounds like the actors are going to get something. Probably similar and will all get to see our tv shows in the fall. And movies this winter next year. Hopefully, said, there has been a lot of Labor Activity in the u. S. This year. And especially in hollywood. Ben was just talking about the rioters, the actors, whats your take on this deal . From what we know about it. I think its another string of successes for union at the collective bargaining table. For workers who are difficult to replace, and the writers are certainly that but also the teamsters at u. P. S. And now were seeing the autoworkers, they have shown a lot of power at the bargaining table. And this deal, if the reports are accurate really gets the rioters most everything that they wanted. They wanted job security protection, they wanted wage increases, they wanted revenue out of the streaming services residual. They wanted to be protected from this Technological Development of a high. It looks like theyre going to get all of the. Almost everything but they wanted in the table. And that is consistent with the pattern weve seen going all the way back to 2021. Unions that have workers that are difficult to replace have a lot of Bargaining Power this economy. But this thing is not inked yet. Its a tentative deal. What could keep it from crossing the finish line set . Well if the rioters all of a sudden decided that this was an exceptional deal you could see that there are two Leadership Councils of this Writers Guild of america have been proven. And well see that vote probably tomorrow, those two votes tomorrow and then the membership going to ramifications. If the members decide that this is just not enough they could say no. But i would be very surprised if this contract doesnt get rectified, and doesnt get rectified with a very, very large margin. Well lets talk about this uaw strike. Because they are not closed said, it is now expanding, this strike to 38 locations in 20 different states this week. And how that could it get. I think weve got a good long way to go, particularly with General Motors and it seems to have been some meaningful progress made between the u a w and ford. Ford has made meaningful concessions on a number of the largest economic issue that the uaw has put on the table. Gm and stellantis, ill while behind fortin disagreement. So, making and the negotiations with fort. But i dont see a resolution of this contract with all the companies happening anytime soon. I think we still got at least a week, maybe a couple of weeks. Maybe even more than that before we get to a final deal. It puts tremendous pressure. Thats the way the uaw used to manage this bargaining. They would target companies. They did the sort of backed into it this time. They used to bargain with one and then forced the others to sort of except the pattern set by the First Company i think one in four all three. They struggled three. They bargained for all the. Lets put defending up with one company, forward, that seems to be willing to make a deal. Closer to the uaws term. And if it works out that way that will put immense pressure on gm and stellantis. Because the argument, we cant afford, it is not gonna be available. Because dm can afford, it if dame can afford it, gm and still at this confided. When the old playbook works, you realize, you better bring it back the rotation. Says, thank you so much, ben white, thank you so much were gonna leave it there. But for you at home do not leave. Did not move a muscle, you need to hear this next story. Because were learning more tonight about disgrace, Columbia University new propublica extraordinary reporting says columbia was one of us this months behavior but he kept working to the reporter there is a better way to manage diabetes. The dexcom g7 continuous Glucose Monitoring system eliminates painful finger sticks, helps lower a1c, and its covered by medicare. Before using the dexcom g7, i was really frustrated. All of that Finger Pricking and all that pain, my a1c was still stuck. Before dexcom g7, i couldnt enjoy a single meal. I was always trying to outguess my glucose, and it was awful. Before dexcom g7, my diabetes was out of control because i was tired, not having the energy to do the things that i wanted to do. female announcer dexcom g7 is a small, easytouse wearable that sends your Glucose Numbers to your phone or dexcom receiver without painful finger sticks. The arrow shows the direction your glucose is heading up, down, or steady and because dexcom g7 is the most accurate cgm, you can make better decisions about food, medication, and activity in the moment. It can even alert you before you go too low or when youre high. Oh, the fun is absolutely back. After dexcom g7, i can on the spot figure out what im gonna eat and how its going to affect my glucose when a friend calls and says, hey, lets go to breakfast, i can get excited again. earl after using the dexcom g7, my diabetes, it doesnt slow me down at all. I lead line dancing three times a week, i exercise, and im just living a great life now. Its so easy to use. It has given me confidence and control, everything i need is right there on my phone. earl the dexcom g7 is so small, so easy to use, and its very discreet. dr. Aaron king if you have diabetes, getting on dexcom is the single most important thing you can do. david within months, my a1c went down, thats 6. 9. donna at my last checkup, my a1c was 5. 9. female announcer dexcom is the number one recommended cgm brand and offers 24 7 tech support, so call now to get started. Youll talk to a real person. Dont wait, this one short call could change your life. bright music two months ago, former Columbia University ob gyn, Robert Hadden was sentenced to 20 years in prison for sexually abusing dozens and dozens of patients. And now theres new reporting about what happened at columbia during that time. We want to let you know upfront, this is a disturbing story in a very difficult one to discuss. But we believe its important for you to know about. If the story comes to us from propublica. And it is headlined, how columbia ignored women, undermined prosecutors and protected a predator for more than 20 years. This in an official statement, policy across columbia leaders offered their deepest apologies to all of the victims and their loved ones and said this. Central quote, since hadnt last saw patients more than a decade ago, columbia has work to enhance the policies the processes in on place to afford our patients a the we think that he, you, know the administrators probably believed him over his patients. This is not just all this institution, this policy, worked even for those, New York City can you explain how powerful Institution Columbia is. If you ask the average person here, i would say jpmorgan, goldman sachs, i wouldnt say columbia. But it is powerful. It is a little bit less obvious, but it is the university, it is ivy league, institution, it is i have a 13 Billion Dollar endowment, it is one of the largest private landholders in the entire city. It is extraordinarily extremely well connected. And wellfunded. They have paid out over 200 and 30 million to solve lawsuits some hundreds of survivors, yet, they accept no guilt. What else do we know to know about them . That is a lot of money to pay for something had nothing to do with. That is right. Yeah. It is interesting because the last week, you talk about the statement they issued, and that is really the closest they have come to apologizing up until now. They have really only issued statements that have placed the blame solely on hadnt himself. What needs to change to ensure Something Like this never, ever happens again. When you think about a doctor of this nature, meeting with women, while theyre pregnant, trying to get pregnant. The most personnel, the most intimate. Yes, i mean we actually looked at a lot of other high Profile Cases at universities such as there have been numerous similar cases. And something that has happened in a lot of those cases is that the actually commissioned external reviews that look at some of the systematic failures that allowed the abuse to have continued for so long. And as far as we know, that something that colombia has not done. So colombia has done no external review, or no information of how this happened . What stood out to me, in your piece, the dna actually launched an investigation into columbia itself because they werent playing law or working with the department of justice. What can you tell us about that . I mean thats amazing to me, right. If you have someone doing something awful in your organization and you hold no blame, one would think that you would say, please let us work with. You let us roll out this bad conduct. Thats exactly right. So basically, the men had ndas office had pursued a case against hadden he pleaded guilty, he lost his medical license and he had to register as a sex offender. But he didnt actually serve any jail time at all. And so overtime many of the survivors who were unhappy, they felt like that was basically a slap on the wrist for accusing hundreds, perhaps thousands of women for many, many years. They started to speak out publicly. And so as they came forward the d. A. s Office Actually opened a criminal investigation. And they found that most notably, columbia had filled to turn over documentation of patient complaints. They have had dating back to 1994. How on earth did they defend that . While they dont. They havent answered our questions. We send them many questions, and they havent really answered them. So thats one that im not so sure about. So theyre not playing ball with. You and theyre aggressively fighting lawsuits now. They are, yes, in a lawsuit earlier this year they said that haddens conduct was outside the scope of his employment. And so the university should not be held liable for his actions. Outside the university. 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And later seen driving away in a comfortable. The Surprise Appearance comes just days after kelsey invited swift to see him in action at the stadium where he watched her perform in july. Ive seen you rock the stadium, and i have to come see you rock the stadium to see which ones a little more lit. Rumors have been swirling since july, after travis it on the podcast that he unsuccessfully tried to get the singer a Friendship Bracelet with this one number on it after her show. I was disappointed that she doesnt talk before or have turned her show, she wants to savor boys for the 34 songs that she sings. From, there rumors started to fly. And the famous pair havent been able to shake it off. Traviss, brother and former super bowl competitor, jason, added fuel to the speculation last week when he was asked whether they were dating. I think theyre doing great. And i think its all 100 percent true. And i hope things are going. Touchdown, chiefs . 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