Just the opposite. Also tonight, Kevin MccarthysGovernment Shutdown is now just three days away with little hope he can get control of his chaos caucus in time to avert disaster. Democratic house leader Hakeem Jeffries joins me. But we begin with Breaking News tonight. Judge tanya chutkan, presiding over Donald Trumps federal election interference case, has rejected trumps request for her to recuse herself in the case. Judge chutkans thorough rebuke that he should be prosecuted and imprisoned. Its trumps second defeat by a judge in just two days. Yesterdays ruling by a new york judge, an attorney general Latitia James civil lawsuit against trump undercut one of his most consequential myths, the lie that trump was in real life the character that he played on tv for 14 seasons on the apprentice. Billionaire, successful Real Estate Developer, a wise businessman. But the truth was, and still is, that the twiceimpeached, four times indicted, civilly liable for sexual abuse former president has been none of those things. In his scathing, 35page ruling, judge arthur n. Gordon found that trump committed repeated acts of fraud for years as he massively overvalued his assets and net worth by billions of dollars in his financial statements. The judge said that trumps legal arguments defending those statements were based in a, quote, fantasy world. And noted the difference between how independent professional appraisers value trumps properties, compared to what trump claimed they were worth. His West Chester CountySeven Springs estate appraised at 30 million. Trumps value, between 261 and 291 million. 40 Wall Street in manhattan was appraised at 540 million, trumps value, 735 million. And of course, theres maralago, which was appraised at between 18 and 27 million, but according to trumps financial statements, it was supposedly worth anywhere between 426 and 612 million. An overvaluation of at least 2,300 . And then theres trumps pension for overstating the size of things. The judge pointed to trump having wildly exaggerated the size of his new york apartment. In his flagship property trump tower on fifth avenue to pump up its value. Repeatedly claiming it was over 30,000 square feet, when it was actually a third of that size. Which prompted the judge to write a discrepancy of this order of magnitude by a Real Estate Developer sizing up his own living space of decades can only be considered fraud. And so, the trial in the civil lawsuit will begin on monday, more than four years after Latitia James first opened her civil investigation. Its an investigation that she said only began because of the 2019 congressional testimony from trumps former lawyer, michael cohen, who put a spotlight on trumps misconduct. To your knowledge, did the president or his company ever inflate assets or revenues . Yes. To your knowledge, did the president ever provide inflated assets to an Insurance Company . Yes. Do you know to your knowledge, was the president interested in reducing his local real estate bills, tax bills . Yes. And how did he do that . What you do is you deflate the value of the asset and then you put in a request to the Tax Department for a deduction. And was that done with the president s knowledge or direction . Everything was done with the knowledge and at the direction of mr. Trump. Joining me now is michael cohen, trumps former person lawyer, host of the political beatdown podcast and author of revenge how donald trump weaponized the department of justice. Maralago he claims is worth its kind of funny, 1. 5 billion. Here is the deposition from donald trump. Question, do you have a sense of the price of maralago, the value, yes. I think i do. I mean, i think i do. How much do you think its worth, 1. 5 billion. Whats your basis for that . Just broker talk. Never been for sale. Two people owned it. Based on what will have people come in, experts and like this to show a price of 1. 5. I believe the price is 1. 5 billion. He makes up the value of things out of his own mind, how he is feeling that day . Absolutely. Theres no basis for a 1. 5 billion valuation of maralago. Let me, though, be clear, when judge when judge in this specific case stated that the value of maralago was between 14 to 26 million, he didnt mean the sale price. He was talking about the assessed value. And trump actually tried to have that reduced even further because by reducing it even further, based upon some alga rhythmic number thats used by the state, would reduce the tax bases. Right. Its not the value of the property. I would pay 20 million for maralago in a heart beat. So would anybody in palm beach. Sure. Hes talking about the assessed value. Theres some number. I wanted to be clear about that. Sure. But under no circumstance is it worth anywhere near 1. 5 billion. Right. And some of the things hes doing, in the case of maralago, it is zoned to be a club. It is not a private residence anymore because he had to give it up in bankruptcy and make it turn a profit, so hes assessing it as if he could sell it as parcelled off lots in palm beach and then inflating that by 3,000 . Right. First of all, you cant just take a property, which is zoned as a social club and automatically turn it into a residential property. Then on top of that you cant parcel it off simply because thats what you want to do. Theres all forms of application and he would not be entitled to it. First of all, lets assume that he sold the property tomorrow. He doesnt get the money. He doesnt get to keep all that money. There are people that paid 350,000 as a bond to be a member of that club. Theyre entitled to their bond money back. They may not be entitled to interest. Im not sure how the paperwork goes. Im pretty sure knowing donald theres no interest that will be paid on it. But for certain, theyre entitled to their bond money back. And hes got several hundred members. So now you have to take that amount of money. Right. Reduce it and if, in fact that hes forced to sell it, theres also the delta between his acquisition, which is called the bases and how much he sold it for, hes going to have to pay federal tax on that money, too. And he did this with property after property. Well put them up on. Seven springs, maralago, Trump National golf club, Trump National golf club l. A. And the trump park avenue. He doesnt own as many things as people think, by the way. So in the case of Seven Springs, he plussed it up from 30 million to almost 291 million. The case of 40 Wall Street, 540 to 735. Case of maralago we just talked about. Trump National Golf club, he says 73. 16 to 56. We could go on, trump park avenue, 750,000. These are rentcontrolled apartments. Not all of them. Not all of them. But there is 750,000 62,500 per unit but inflated by 700 . Hes making up numbers and says based on the value of his name and brand and the judge came out and dropped an anville on him. What happens now . That part of the case is over. Latitia james won that. Now he has to litigate the other parts of it. Is just how much hes going to pay . Yeah. All trials in new york are bifurcated. Two parts to it. The first part is the liability. Thats been decided by the judge yesterday in this decision. Now you go to the second part based on damages. How much is are unsinkable attorney general tish james going to take from donald trump based upon the overvaluation and the actions that he did with the personal financial statement, how much is she going to hit him up for that . That doesnt even include interest and penalty that gets associated to it. Now, theres a lot of mistakes that are made by pundits and journalists, where they turn around and claim that its a 250 million lawsuit. No, it is not. Its a baseline of 250 Million Dollars. That means shes not going less than 250 million. Thats the minimum. Thats the bottom. Yeah. How much . Well, that well see at trial. Which, as you know, ive already been subpoenaed by tish james in order to testify. Yeah. I have to be very honest with you, after a lot of the actions that were seeing, the attacks on judge chutkan, the attacks on tish james herself, the attacks on d. A. Alvin bragg, the attacks on everyone. Fani willis, jack smith. Everybody. Let me tell you something, i think its going its incumbent now upon government i listen again to a lot of pundits on the various different staxs talking about how they have to do something to curb Donald Trumps language. What are we going to wait until something god forbid happens and then everyone is going to say thoughts an prayers to the family . No. He should not be permitted to do what hes doing. Hes threatening judges. Hes threatening prosecutors. Hes threatening witnesses. This is all obstruction of justice. Yeah. And witness tampering. And if they dont do something about it, i have a strong suspicion a lot of people may not end up showing up to testify. Listen, im considering it myself despite the fact im under subpoena. I dont have to put my life on the line simply because donald trump cannot control himself. And the courts are not controlling him. The point being that the witnesses dont have security. The judges have security but the witnesses are sort of on their own if they cant afford personal security. First of all, nobody should be required to pay for personal security because the government needs you in order to prove their case. Thats right. I have stated that i intend to testify. I said it to god rest his soul representative elijah cummings. I said to him that i will do what i need to do in order to ensure that donald trump is held accountable. And i have done that. I have honored my pledge to this great man. Unfortunately i also dont want i dont want to meet my maker just yet. And i think its incumbent upon government because there are too many maga supporters out there that dont understand, as donald, right, doesnt understand reality from fantasy, all right . Yeah. We dont live in disney land. We live in reality. And his numbers at disney land and so is his behavior. Its just not normal. You also have a case directly with him. Youre going to be able to depose him because you have a lawsuit. Talk about that. Actually tomorrow we have a Compliance Conference with the court. No different than what hes doing in all of these other cases. He goes ahead and he files motion after motion. Hes the plaintiff. Plaintiff isnt supposed to fight you for a deposition. Hes supposed to provide you with the discovery and the documentation that you need. Its part of the way the system works. Nope. Not in this specific case. His goal was to wait, which is what his lawyer asked for, 90 days after the election in order to be deposed. The judge in this specific case, its insane, we have court order coming up for october 3rd. Now, of course, they dont want to do it because theyre saying the october 2nd start of the a. G. s case. I wonder whether donald is coming to the a. G. s case. I wonder if hell show up at all. If he isnt, why would that then preclude him from appearing for the 7 or 9hour deposition that were entitled to take. Please come back and tell us how that goes because it should be interesting. He in a deposition usually doesnt do well. No, he doesnt. Bad for him. The truth aint on his side. No. Michael cohen, thank you. Good to see you. Up next on the reidout, the awkward feeling when you try to drum up support with Striking Union workers by giving a Campaign Speech at a nonunion factory. Brilliant. The reidout continues after this. Ant. The reidout continues after this to finally lose 80 pounds and keep it off with golo is amazing. Ive been maintaining. The weight is gone and its never coming back. With golo, ive not only kept off the weight but im happier, im healthier, and i have a new lease on life. Golo is the only thing that will let you lose weight and keep it off. Who loses 138 pounds in nine months . I did golos a Lifestyle Change and you make the change and it stays off. soft music donald trump is skipping another president ial debate tonight. This time to capitalize on the united autoworkers strike by speaking at a nonunion plant outside detroit in the next hour. Its deja vu all over again. Remember how he promised to revive domestic manufacturing when he ran in 2016 . It was essentially a main tenant in the make America Great again mantra and it worked. Because trump won the 2016 election largely because he carried rust belt states like michigan, wisconsin and iowa. He targeted those voters will false promises, choosing michigan, the very place that hes speaking tonight to make his closing argument, in a direct appeal to Union Workers on the last day of his campaign. I know exactly what to do, folks. Were not going to lose your jobs anymore. Were not going to lose your jobs anymore. We are going to bring back the Automobile Industry to michigan. Bigger and better and stronger than ever before. Those lies may not work this time around. The uaws Vice President shared his thoughts on trumps trip to michigan tonight. Telling the detroit free press, quote, coming to Michigano Speak at a nonunion employer and pretending it has anything to do with our fight at the big three is just more verbal diarrhea. Let that linger for a moment in your mind. Verbal diarrhea from the former president. Joining me now is our panel extraordinary, stephanie ruhle, host of the 11th hour. I love having all of you all here. Its a competition for who will deliver the verbal diarrhea. Verbal ddiarrhea. Ill go to you first on that. Youre the one who talks in class. Ill go to you first. The thing about it is it worked. Can i just play for a second this is the most important thing that it worked. I worked. When i travel for work, i always go right to local broadcast news. I dont turn on cable news. I turn on the local stations. When i was in pennsylvania, when i was in ohio, this is the ad that was running like water in 2016. Take a look. Sends our skyscrapers soaring. It will be american hands, American Workers that remake this country. Were going to be working again. Were going to have great jobs again. Were going to make America Great again for everyone. Greater than ever before. And people believed it, stephanie. They did. This time joe biden isnt taking that for granted. Yes. Yesterday when you saw him on the picket line, right, theres all sorts of politicians that have said were prounion and joe biden has always been a union guy. You cannot find another president that literally walked the picket line because he is not taking those voters for granted, which many can argue Hillary Clinton did back in think never answered that ad. But she didnt answer that ad because they thought, well, we have the union bosses and they did. But that was the first time Union Workers split from their bosses who said, following you has got me nothing. And that was why it was a very savvy move for joe biden, assuming thats the base he wants to keep, he said i am here for you. Absolutely. Molly, the thing is the numbers are very clear. Joe biden actually managed to pull back enough. Democrats normally do better with the union vote. Normally do. But barack obama but biden, i should say, im sorry. Donald trump did better with unio voters than most republicans do. You can just see it there. Romney got 40 . Trump got 42 but that 2 was just enough to squeak him over the line. And if you were an autoworker or steel worker and youre seeing the plants close, a message that says were going to put you back to work is a powerful message. The guys from the apprentice, he is rich. He must know how to do it. It worked. Joe biden is a working class guy, able to pull them back. But that is the key to keeping the white house. Right. No question. And this is really michigan is a key state. But i do want to remind you that it does have a democratic governor. It does. And three Democratic Women killing it in that state. But yeah, i think thats totally right. And i think that this is like incredible time for labor. The wga just got the best contract and they are killing it. And s. A. G. Is about to get a deal, i think, thats going to u. P. S. Did. U. P. S. Yeah. This is the time when workers are finally getting their due. So to have an american president on that picket line yesterday, first time ever, i mean, you cant its so exciting. And i do think that excitement is real, right . Its not manufactured. Its not lies that trump is saying. Yep. Its real stuff. So i think it speaks to people. And i promise you we did not exile the men into the box. They are just in the box. Its completely coincidental. Let me go to the guys for just a second. The thing is there is a tension in the whole idea of we want green. We want to go to green technology. Joe biden put a lot of money into it. But for autoworkers, they see those Green Tech Jobs and they see jobs in north carolina, jobs in south carolina, that are nonunion, that pay less and not jobs in michigan and in ohio and pennsylvania. Thats the reality. So, biden does have to walk that line because the more he says green, the more a lot of Union Workers hear jobs leaving our state. But lets be clear as well, joy, the uaw made it very clear, theyre not against ev production, not against electric vehicles, not against green tech. They want those to be unionized jobs. They want them to pay fair wages. They dont people like elon tusk and tesla against union. Everything donald trump says is a lie. What annoys me is we shouldnt be helping him with those lies. The amount of Media Coverage over the last few days suggesting donald trump tonight is going to see striking uaw workers. He is not going to see striking uaw workers. He is going to a nonunion plant to talk to nonuaw members. By the way, there was a massive gm walkout