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MSNBCW Yasmin July 3, 2024

The 150 hostages will be brutal and painful. One former Law Enforcement official saying, dont expect a john wayne ending. Our next hour starts right now. Arts right now hi everybody. If you are just joining us, welcome. If you are sticking with us, thank you for that. Im Yasmin Vossoughian coming to you from msnbc world headquarters. It is two pm in the east, nine pm in gaza. New this hour, the idf warning of an integrated coordinated attack on gaza from air, sea, inland. The u. S. State department advise a Non Emergency Government Officials to leave israel. Hamas claiming 22 hostages have been killed an israeli strike national during the next phase of israels war hamas will no longer rule gaza. The search for survivors continues along the gaza strip following another night of israeli strikes even as palestinians evacuated from Northern Gaza to the south. Long lines formed outside a bakeries that remained open in gaza today at the United Nations warned of a worsening humanitarian crisis with dwindling food, fuel, in zero water. Meanwhile, israel is amassing tanks in Border Cities attacked by hamas, as well as the northern border with lebanon. According to nbc News Reporters on the ground for us there. Its really officials are restating the mission of a looming offensive in gaza. We have boots on the ground to try to seek out terrorists and find the people who are still missing. People who were objected. Those who have not been accounted for since the terrible attack, the massacre, of last saturday. We have the air force operating and artillery operating against hamas in their position. Theyre coming in control. Their leadership. In paris the louvre and Versailles Museum are empty at this hour following a stabbing at Northern France yesterday that authorities described as terrorism. We have reporters in place around the world for us from israel and lebanon, covering all of the days developments. We want to start with nbcs Ellison Barber on the ground for us in israel at the israel gaza border. Alison, if you, will take us there and tell us what you are seeing this hour. Yasmin, in the last ten minutes we saw a series of rockets launched, this time, from the israeli side towards the direction of gaza. We have seen a heavy Military Presence in this area. We are about as far as you can possibly go at this point. It is just checkpoint after checkpoint after checkpoint. No one is able to get through because israels military is in a position, a posture right now, to move forward with the next phase of this. They have said clearly that they will be escalating. That they plan to take this fight, directly, to hamas in every way. They say that is on the ground, by air, and by sea. We have already seen increasingly missiles flying through the air back and forth. Yesterday, on the border with gaza, the skyline in the city remember, there is no power there. It was dark. Except for the flashes, the glow, of orange from where the city was being bombarded by israeli or to the re, mortars, missiles, things of that nature. There was that Evacuation Notice that is you gave to about 1. 1 Million People who live in the northern part of gaza. Telling them that they had 24 hours to evacuate him move south. That ended at midnight, local time, last night. Today there was about a sixhour period where israel promised would be safe for gazans in the area to try to travel down to major roadways until four pm today to evacuate. Hamas with time people to stay put. The u. N. Was saying that having everyone evacuate, this order that have been dropped by israel, it would create a humanitarian crisis. Remember, there is nowhere for most people to go. Traveling within gaza right now is incredibly difficult. The one Border Crossing that they could, potentially, he used to leave if they wanted to is not open. That is the Rafah Crossing Going into key to. That has been fully close since tuesday. According to egypts foreign minister, that crossing was struck, nearby, by israeli missiles. Right now it is really a question of when will Israeli Forces launch their Ground Assault into the gaza strip . From everything we know, every conversation we have had with israeli spokespeople, everything they are saying, everything we have seen in the past 2 to 3 days in this area, in terms of tanks, military quitman, moving towards the gaza border, they have Everything Position for that. Now, it is just a matter of timing. They have called up over 300,000 reservists. The vast majority of those, according to a spokesperson with the idf, have been sent to the gaza border. Some up towards the north to deal with a possible threat of hezbollah. You know what . They are pointing, are we seeing something, guys . Yasmin, i will send it back to you . Alison barber yasmin, if you stay with us for a second. Yasmin, stay with us. It sounds like we have some stuff overhead we might be able to show you. You hear the sirens going off . It moved in the direction past this tree. This is what happens. Again, we are seeing this in waves every few minutes. The alarm sound on the israeli side, things will start firing in the direction of gaza. You can hear, in gaza, this constant la la booms. It almost sounds like thunder. We just heard a little bit there, im not sure if you can hear it on the microphones. It is the law of artillery, gaza just being pounded. Idf says they plan to focus the assault on gaza city. They say that is where hamas operates out of. The question, what happens to the civilians there . They do not really have anywhere to go, even if they wanted to . A lot of them do not want to go, they are afraid if they leave it will be what happened in 1978. What the palestinians refer to have the nakba. If you would, stay safe. We appreciate. It we want to go to nbcs foreign correspondent, matt bradley, standing by for us in lebanon. Lebanon, there are fears of this second front along the israeli lebanese border there. It is a primary concern given hezbollahs military experience. What we have been hearing from hezbollah over this time. I want to show some pictures of israeli troops amassing along the israel lebanon border, as well. Where do things stand, matt, at this hour . We just got some Breaking News. Two lebanese civilians have been killed at the shebaa farm area, an area disputed between israel and lebanon. It sits at the intersection between lebanon, israel, and the Israeli Occupied golan heights, which is part of syria. That is a major development. It is part of a titfortat that weve been seeing over the past week. We have heard that there are, at, least three or four hezbollah fighters who were killed. At least three Israeli Soldiers who have been killed in this exchange. We were there at the border yesterday. We saw some of this firing of lebanese shooting rockets. And one point we actually saw the israelis actually intercepting them. This is casting a pall over the whole of the region. Whether or not hezbollah will actually involve themselves. On that friday of rage, yesterday, we were out at a mosque where there were players. Hezbollah was out with their flags. Palestinian flags. A lot of bellicose language. A lot of threats. A lot of people saying, we are ready for war. It is unclear if the rest of the country has the same appetite. This is a country that has now endured four years of economic crisis, a depressed currency, power blackouts. You might even see what im standing here. This is regular event here. This is a country that, really, is reluctant to get back into a war even if hezbollah has been beating their chest. Where that decision is going to be made is a very big question. It could be made and iran. That is the main benefactor for hezbollah, as well as for hamas. We are seeing to know the sponsorship coming from tehran. Excuse me, the Iranian Foreign minister is now making the rounds. He is in beirut, today he was in damascus the capital of syria. Apparently going back to beirut. This week he met with the head of hezbollah. We are seeing this decision being made in realtime. A lot of this is going to depend on what we see from the israelis and whether or not they move into brutally take over the gaza strip. From what i understand, from what people who know the group, hezbollah have been positioning itself as a deterrent to the Israeli Military to keep them from really destroying hamas in the gaza strip. They might not be able to do that. This is a group, while it is more powerful than hamas because of its stature, its Experience Fighting in syria for the better part of the last ten years, it is not clear whether they will actually be able to put it that much of a fight against an Israeli Military that has now been bolstered by more than 300,000 reservists. This is a place to watch, yasmin. Matt bradley for us. Thank, you matt. Appreciated. We want to bring in retired four star general, Mccaffrey Talking with us more about this. A couple of things going on here, general. I want to talk more about this. We were hearing the statement from the idf. Ready to go, essentially, is what the same in the. Said obviously, im paraphrasing. Air, land, and see. Weve seen this buildup over the past week with tksined up alongthe israeli gaza rd. Not necessarily unexpected but ndering if the statement was released giving us a clue as to the timing. We also know that leaflets were dropped, statements have been ma. Clues have been given to gazans to go uth, especially gaza city, in preparation for what will be this Ground Incursion. Obviously we are seeing rocket fire into gaza as we just heard from our own alison barber on the ground there. On the israeli gaza border. Talk to us about what youre thinking right now about some of the things that just laid out. The bottom line is the idf has to go in and try to destroy hamas in gaza. 30,000 fighters. Maybe. They are meshed into the civilian population by strategy and by purpose they are trying to stop the civilians from evacuating out of the areas of high intensity combat. Hamas is an ongoing war crime. Not just the slaughter of hundreds of israelis, but the the way they are putting at risk their own palestinian population. Idf has to flood the zone. They have 50 200,000 troops. They will try to dominate the ground. They will look for hostages and they will try to exterminate hamas. The hostages are unlikely to have a very positive outcome. They are gonna have to find them underground, ton around, intelligence, offering rewards. Well see. And they will go. Israel could not exist as the state if hamas is granted impunity inside the gaza strip. That is it. The other thing, i think, is a major consideration for both the u. S. And israel is trying to not expand the war. Hezbollah is on the verge of going in, at a minimum, with rocket attacks. A couple things i want to talk through. Lets talk about the hostages first. We know that there is a Seal Team Six arm of the cia here in the United States. It is called the grfs. Wondering what the calculations are for the Israeli Military, for his sod. Why they wouldnt send their own, i know they have one, their own Elite Strikeforce in two, possibly, try to rescue some of these hostages before they start this Ground Invasion . With that be impossible considering the landscape of gaza . Right now there is no way the israelis, nor the United States, has a clue to where those 150 hostages maybe. They are underground, they are dispersed. They wont be talking about the Liquor Creation on anything with electronic intercept capability. The israelis have to get boots on the ground and then use human resources, tunnel rats, hostage situations, where more, is to try to find where they might be and then attempt to rescue them. Special ops really Cannot Go Into Gaza successfully and search for and find these hostages. It is just not possible. Right now what are we waiting for . A very high intensity combat intervention by the israelis using infantry and armor forces. They will try to discriminate carefully enough trying to kill civilians. What is going to be a messy, bloody, fight for both the civilian population and the idf. The intelligence they have, what they know, hamas is operating at a gaza city who is to say that hamas does not go south, as they have urged gazans to go south . Why would they remain in gaza city as Sitting Ducks awaiting the Ground Incursion from israelis . What we keep them there . I think some of them, the Senior Leaders of hamas, maney are outside of the country anyway. Living in luxury. Many have may well join the civilian population. By and large are thinking moss is there to fly. They will fight to the death. The idea of Main Objective will not really be, in my, view finding the hostages. They will try that but their primary purpose is to destroy hamas and the Senior Leadership the structure, the arms depot, that is going to keep them in gaza, in my view, for 2 to 3 months to try to wrangle these people out from underground. Meanwhile, in the north, hezbollah with 100,000 fighters and over 100,000 missiles, in my judgment, they will enter the war at the worst possible moment for the idea. Worst possi so, what im heau sir, and correct me if im wrong, do you feel as if the idf, essentially, is making the calculation it is more important to capture, kill hamas, then it is to rescue these hostages and the hostages may very well lose their lives amidst this . Well, of course, their purpose will be to protect human lives. A hostages, as well as palestinians and civilians, but i think the bottom line is, the political and military objective of israel, must be, at this point, to try and exterminate the hamas leadership and infrastructure. Without which, they cant continue to live as a free people. They essentially have a strategic surprise. Hamas has achieved a tactical victory in population, and with thats impressionable will not be so, there is a idf intervention will be crushing visible thank you, sir, as always. All right, might next, kiss everyone once. We are back in just 60 seconds. Ust 60 seconds and youre just the person to keep it running because a proud homeowner has a protective instinct and frankly, the brains to know the grid is gonna let you down sometimes. Thats why when the rest of the block is Lighting Candles and looking for flashlights, youre ready to rock and roll. Its not just a generator. Its a power move. Request a free quote today. This is american infrastructure, a prime target for cyberattacks. But the same aipowered security that protects all of google also defends these services for everyone who lives here. Welcome back. Were following this Breaking News out of the white house today. U. S. Officials depriving late warning resite israel to show restraint when her tally against hamas. Nbcs allie raffa is at the house for us. Ali, talk to us. What more can you tell us about kind of any conversation that israel has had with that United States between the Prime Minister and the president . And any indication, in fact, they will comply with this request . Hey, yasmin. We know of several conversations that happened privately between Top Biden Administration officials, and their israeli counterparts. But sources familiar with these conversations are telling us that while these Top Administration officials vowed to continue supporting israel, reaffirm their belief that israel has a right and continues to have a right to defend itself, they also offered some words of caution. And issued some advice of restraint to these israeli officials, saying they urged israel to follow the International Rules of war, urging them to avoid any unnecessary deaths of Palestinian Civilians. We saw some of this trickle down even publicly, when Secretary Of Defense lloyd austin was in tel aviv counterpart yesterday, where he told reporters, quote, Terrorists Targets of aliens but democracies dont. He added this, is a time for resolve and not revenge. That was a message Secretary Of State Antony Blinken echoed when he was visiting saudi arabia earlier today. Listen here. It is vitally important, that we always look after four civilians. We are working together to do exactly that. In particular, working on establishing safe areas in gaza. Working on establishing corridors of humanitarian assistance, who can reach people who need it. Officials are stressing bexar nuts telling israel how to conduct its military operations. They are also stressing that the u. S. Has not asked israel to hold off or pause this counteroffensive, this attack on gaza, because of their ongoing efforts to secure the rescue of hostages in got a. We obviously cant confirm whether the actions weve seen over the last 24 hours by israel or during that Evacuation Order from Northern Gaza, waiting

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