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MSNBCW Inside July 3, 2024

Connected. Hate toward one group left unanswered, more hate towards more groups, more often. The antidote to hate is love. The answer is solidarity. Stand up for everyone humanity. Thats what laws they particulate matter. Every single american, no matter who you are, no matter where you come from. This shouldnt be about conservative, liberal, red or blue. It should be about it sounds corny. But a Promise Rooted and the sacred and secular. Where all people created equal. And life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. [applause] folks, it may sound corny but weve never fully lived up to that promise, but with never looked away from, it like many want us to. And were not going to pull away from it on my watch. I promise. You all of you here tonight and all the allies across the country. I see the light thats going to try to cover the darkness. I see the hope thats going to conquer the love thats gonna overcome hate in all its forms. I see a great nation because were basically good people. Just remember who we are all that were good folks, we have got to stand up and holler. We have got to stand up and holler. We cannot be silent. Silence is complicity silence is complicity folks, where the United States of america and there is nothing beyond our capacity when we do it together. Nothing, nothing, nothing. So lets stand together. And get everybody else godless you all and may god protect our troops. Thank you, thank, you thank, you thank, you thank, you that was president biden, addressing the war in israel and hamas at the human rights campaigns annual dinner. You heard him use the libra for ten years over the last week. Silence is complicity. Talking about the loss and uncertainty, people are experiencing israel and of course calling for a protection of hate and its an estimate it troops appear poised to look allowed Squirrel Grunt offense and gaza. Prime minister netanyahu told his troops today, next stage is coming. Are you ready . And the idf said it is quote preparing a coordinate attack from the air, sea and land. This show of strength comes one week after Hamas Terrorists and Florida Southern israel, massacred scores of civilians, and took over 150 people hostage. At least 30 people have been killed so far in israel and over 1900 in gaza. Moments ago, we learned the number of americans killed is up to 29. Ahead of what will look at the awful skeleton ambition, israel or the Inter Population of northern gaza, more than 1 Million People to evacuate southern to the south. Minute more than 1 Million People were told to grab their belongings, abandoned their homes. A task that you ends it wasnt possible. And arrest for him amateur in disaster. The news shows palestinians desperately taking safety steps from their homes. A young woman described him to leave but have nowhere to go. No one has a place right now, if you have a, cowardice run. No one knows where we are going. But were all evacuating. Just pray for us. And hopefully well come back home. We will come back home. And basin is also spoke to a mother and son today as they packed up to at least got city for the south. We live here without water, electricity and internet. The life, like nothing. We have a lot of rockets above us. And no place is safe and cause it right now. There are also up to 600 americans stop and gaza. And a possible root out for them fell short today. Egyptian and israelis reached a tentative agreement to allow u. S. Citizens to leave gaza through the rafah crossing, but when they got there, the crossing was closed. The humanitarian crisis and gaza is growing ever more ominous as israeli troops prepare to push in. President bryant was briefed today, and he spoke to Prime Minister netanyahu this afternoon. That president reiterated both unwavering u. S. Support for israel and his foreign against anyone seeking to expand the conflict. With us now on the ground and as roads and bitter news correspondent alison parker. Alison, i want to start by asking last time we spoke about an hour ago, there was a lot of rockets overhead. A lot of activity and the sky. What is happening, whats been happening over the last hour . On the, hole its been kind of eerily quiet. But in the last hour, weve heard, by our count, at least nine times the boom of artillery headed in the direction of gaza. But a bit far removed from where we are, but you can hear it and the distance. Weve heard, sort of here and, fear waves of this, just, but as of either drums or fighter jets in the sky. Weve heard both of those over the last hour of them flying overhead. We have seen on the road near us, flat beds passing by with israeli tanks on top of him. And the last few days, weve seen a massive amount of Israeli Military equipment headed in the direction of gaza. A massive amount of troops headed in the direction. We have seen tanks, weve seen at least 100 of those in the past couple of days. Thats a conservative estimate. We have seen more military vehicles than i can count. We have seen Flatbed Carrying artillery, heading towards the border with gaza and weve seen flat bags carrying heavy Movement Machinery towards the border. With gaza. Again, right now, it almost feels eerily quiet in pockets, despite the fact that we have heard the booms of artillery. We havent seen the Gaza Skyline Winding Up Orange and quite a while, and we havent seen, in quite a while, missiles coming from the israeli side, at least in this direction. And the north of Israel Gaza Border Headed Towards gaza. We havent seen that and the last little bit, quite as frequently, youll probably hear some traffic between. By the time cars come by, near where we are, jim, its not civilians, its Military Equipment or military forces. Again, moving in the direction of gaza, civilians in this area, theyve been evacuated. There are no civilians weve seen today. Yesterday, near another city, not far from the border, there would be normally more of a heavy concentration of civilians. We saw maybe, maybe 14 people in the area. Almost everyone had left. It felt like maybe a ghost town. And i know youve been following this closely, it sounds of the activity and the evening picks up a bit . Is that what youve seen the last couple of days . Typically it does, especially around 10 00 local time. At least in our experience in the last couple of days. And again, we are on a section that is to the north of the israel gaza border, right along the area. Usually between ten and midnight and as the sun sets, we see more activity. Last night, when we were in a similar location, it was a bit quiet right around this time as where hitting the 2 am, three i am, for a marks. Its a little bit quiet, but last night was the sabbath so its something that might have made more saints. Other night, its been pretty hectic, pretty chaotic. When the sun sets, yeah. It ebbs and flows and terms of what is normal. But i would describe here and here at the last couple of hours of how its been here as a bit different and it does feel oddly quiet. Jen . Alison barbara, thanks very much for breaking this so much reporting from the ground. We appreciate it. And joining me now is ben rhodes, who is a former Deputy National security adviser to president obama and i worked with him very closely for many years. Hes also msnbc contributor. So, ban you and i have been through many, many troops to israel, trips to the return together. And i want to start with a tweet you put out today. You say the toughest bit met now going to impact millions of lives and risk owens of escalation. That u. S. Should have learned from 9 11, the profound cost of being quite a bit anger and fear. I hope that is what we are telling the Israeli Government. How short the United States we so irate out from the Prime Ministers call but tell us more about the private composition may sound like . Even if its not what were hearing publicly . Yeah, well, jen, you and i have paint and rooms where there were conversations in which the u. S. Really can deliver a couple of messages at once. First, you have obviously heard this based on some of. Israels understanding of a profound trauma theyve been through, with this horrific attack and this legitimate necessity of killing after the hamas militants, the military wing of hamas. That continues to threaten israelis. And thats part of our messaging. In this case, probably more so than that doesnt warrant you and i were a part of. There are others from of. Support the Aircraft Carrier at this move to the region. The messaging directed at iran and hezbollah to stay out of this as part of the u. S. Is doing. And then it additional support. At the same, time and this is kind of what i was referencing, i was in the tweet, you want israel to think for heart about the scale of which it goes into gaza. Because a full scale Ground Invasion, and potential reoccupation of gaza, is something that goes beyond anything weve seen in the previous kinds of wars. And it would risk obviously the substantial loss of palestinian civilian life. And also could risk working about the escalation we dont want. We dont want that risk. Breaking hezbollah end of the conflict or restaurant is put it in the west bank or risk significant demonstration, blow back in the arab world. And so, now is the time to think that through. Because if you, once you unleash the maximum escalation, you begin to lose control of events. One of the obvious concerns here, if youre in israel or certainly in the white house, is the threat of iran. And while they dont have an diligence at this point to confirm iranians, their knowledge or involvement, there was reporting from axios today of iran passing a message through that you enter israel saying we dont want to escalate this, but if you continue this war or you continue your Ground Offensive into gaza, we may have to engage. Thats obviously a paraphrase. You and i worked together a great deal on the iran nuclear deal, on the issue in general. What do you make of that . It sounds like a little bit of a justification but i want to hear your view on that . Yeah, look. Nobody quite as whats about to happen. It seems like there are certainly going to be a Ground Invasion of gaza. But the israelis have not put out their objectives to that Ground Invasion. Which frankly, some of it is understandable. You want some ambiguity. But there might be a difference, or there is a difference between an invasion that trying to rescue hostages and trying to over ever israel as hamas. Is there is a displacement of 1 million gazans, or even 2 million gazans. And essentially a flattening of the place. What part of your concerned about is if the dial stand up and that direction, you have had hezbollah already say they may feel they need to get involved. And hezbollah is a more sophisticated Terrorist Organization than hamas. They have more rockets at the northern border. That can make this harder. But also, ultimately, iran i think iran would get involved first and foremost through hezbollah. That is their proxy. That is their organization that is adjacent to israel, right on the northern border. So in some ways, that iranian message, i think, only reinforces what hezbollahs already said about him potentially getting involved, if conditions reached a certain point. We obviously double that to happen. For israels sake. We dont want to happen for the site of the region. And i think the reason that u. S. Is deploying this additional Military Hardware to the region is really a message to iran. Stay out of this, keep out of this. But again, the motors escalates, the more it could bring in another actor. Secretary blinken is on world went off a middle east trip right now. You have been a part of these, ive been a part of these. Hes in saudi arabia today, egypt tomorrow. Part of that is deescalating, right and . Trying to think about the day after. What other conversations, help it for but it understand her happening as his president capitals. Whats he talking about to the egyptians tomorrow . , jim, I Remember You being on a lot of these trips. We will take every day. I think, look at where hes going. Each country has a unique role in some perspectives. Qatar, there is hamas representation and qatar. And im sure discussions there get with colleges. And its the, role in the past, you may ask why does the u. S. Tolerate because its a venue to try to negotiate things like hostages. I think egypt, obviously, has central to play. We talk earlier about that rafah Border Crossing. The only way out into gaza, but i hope hes talking about humanitarian access to get humanitarian support into gaza. Right now, those people are cut off from everything. Because of israels siege. So in addition to things looking to get american citizens across that Border Crossing, im sure that, and i hope is a conversation about trying to get humanitarian supplies into gaza to provide relief to people. There may also be communications with hamas, egypt, to help in the past about hostages. I think that generally, if you look at saudi arabia, and the broader arab countries, im sure part of this is, i hope part of the messaging is around, look, hamas has to be absolutely condemned. Isolated. At the same time, how do we support more viable peaceful palestinian leadership . How on the back of the conflicts might we be try to rebuild whats left of gaza . Im sure theres also a question of normalization, several of his governments have normalized relationships with israel. The Bottom Administration doesnt want to those deals be put at risk. As this conflict escalates. I have to cite negotiation, normalization with israel, thats probably put to the support now. Because there is no center that i can see which is normalizing relations while israel is providing and potentially on gaza. Theres a demote aspect here. The core of it is, how do we prevent it from escalating . How to approach assistance . And how do we unify against hamas . Which i think there is no love for hamas really anywhere in the arab world. Ben, im using my old friend card just ask you to stay right where you are so i can talk to you more, after we take a quick break. Its after 2 am in israel right now. The Israeli Government said tonight there are murdered and missing people in 43 different countries. Its very global, following the hamas attacks. 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