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MSNBCW Lindsey July 3, 2024

Us im lindsey reiser. Three hours for, now palestinian fischel say for a National Stock in gaza will be able to start crossing into egypt through the rafah Border Crossing. Humanitarian aid is also set to flow into gaza that same hour. Both conditions are dire and options are limited. Those who dont have citizenship elsewhere, as Israeli Forces prepare for a Ground Invasion. With nearly 1 million gaza residents tasked with evacuating to the south, within 24 hours, with the European Unions top Diplomat Calls utterly impossible. Some have stayed in their homes or in the hospital right now, serving as a massive shelter, unable or unraveling to flee in five more certainty. United nations released a Statement Today calling for hamas to immediately release hostages, without conditions. Also telling, israel quote, Rapidly Unimpeded Access for humanitarian aid must be granted in gaza. For its part, israel says it is reopening water supply to southern parts of gaza. But there is no evidence yet that has happened. The current death toll in the war stands at more than 1400 israel and surpasses 2600 in gaza. The state Department Says a number of americans killed has risen to 30 with another 13 not accounted for. New tonight, so the white house confirms that it is considering an invitation from israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu for President Biden to visit israel and he solidarity. Nbcs ellison barber starts off our coverage this hour from the israeli gaza border. What are you seeing at this hour . Hey lindsey. Were starting to hear a bit more moves in the distance in the direction of gaza, just over my shoulder back that way. That is where the border is with gaza. We have seen, tonight is also last night when we were in this area, and the days before massive movements of Military Equipment and military tanks and military vehicles, troops and artillery and everything you can imagine, as they make their way towards the gaza border. The idf, they said they have called up over 360,000 reservists. And the vast majority of them have been positioned along the border with gaza. Some others have been positions along the northern border with lebanon, where they have been seeing strikes coming from hezbollah. The majority of those reservists who have been called off, they have been sent to the border with gaza. A spokesperson with Israels Defense Forces had a Press Conference is about for him tonight. Or at least were taking questions from reporters, on a twitter space. He said that the majority of the reservists they have called up, they are focused on ground efforts. Combat troops, engineers would handle logistics. As well as they are moving closer and closer to launching a Ground Assault into gaza. They have said repeatedly in publicly that they will be escalating this. And then they plan to attack hamas inside gaza. From the air, from the sea and from the land. In from the ground. They say that their goal is to wipe out every bit of hamass military capabilities and they say they will focus their efforts on the northern part of gaza. As a city in particular, where they say hamas primarily operates out of. Remember we were talking about gaza and people being told to evacuate, all of gaza is about the size of philadelphia. 2. 2 Million People, roughly, live in an entire area the evacuation area north of the river. There is not 1. Million people have told to move south. So mh in mlion some people in a space that is half the size of philadelphia. For a lot of people, evacuating is not an option. Theres not a space for them to go and some dont feel safe and there have been reports that hamas has been stopping residents trying to leave at checkpoints. Saying they cannot leave. They publicly encourage civilians in the northern part of gaza to stay put where they are. Some palestinians worry that if they leave theyll never be allowed to come back home and it will be a repeat of what they refer to as the knock fought back in the 1940s where israel was declared a state and Hundreds Of Thousands of palestinians were forced from their homes and not able to come back. The idf they say hamas is encouraging civilians to stay put and preventing them from having south because in their words hamas wants to use civilians as Human Shields. The idf has repeatedly in four years claims that hamas uses civilian structures and civilian areas to carry military operations. The idf has confirmed throughout since this war has started and they declared on sunday that they have struck what most people would consider civilian structures homes and buildings and mosques they say that is because hamas stories weapons in those areas and also operates Command Centers out of it. In that conversation tonight where the lieutenant colonel, a spokesperson for the idf was taking questions, he said one of the challenges they are looking at ramping up their efforts as they carried out these airstrikes, as they said theyre targeting hamas militants and are moving targets and that makes it difficult at times to limit civilian casualties of people are not out of the area. They say they do everything feasible possible to limit the toll on civilians but weve already seen a heavy impact for civilians once this full Ground Assault gets underway. It will likely be even more catastrophic for people stuck inside of gaza. We know there are 5 to 600 Palestinian Americans inside gaza right now. Theyve been told to the State Department to get as close to that rafah Border Crossing as they can. Because. When it opens the u. S. Has warned that it might not be open for a very long time and the need to be positions and ready to get out. According to the palestinian envoy to the rafah crossing, when the border opens 90 am local time just a couple of hours from now, the people for nationals able to cross through that border, the airport in the area about 30 minutes away from the rafah crossing, from there they will fly to cairo. There was a last 20 4 36 hours a period of time where people got the message you essence did inside of gaza that they could cross through that border they went to it and they werent able to move until those gates opened for sure not clear what would happen. But we now there is that deal in place for nationals couldnt leave starting at 9 am in exchange for humanitarian aid to head from the egyptian side of the border into gaza hands that humanitarian aid is desperately needed, lindsey. Alison barber thank you so much to you and your crew. Please stay safe. Joining me right now a former state Department Official during the Obama Administration and the former Director Of Communications and spokesperson for the u. S. Mission to the u. N. Under president obama. Joel, how complicated is it to get these americans and other foreign nationals of gaza through this crossing . It is incredibly complicated because theyre couple steps that are involved. First and foremost the individuals have to come through and show papers that prove that they are who they are and then i feel. Meanwhile we have in the best background is as Pressure Cooker keeping the gates open as allison mentioned. To me the thing that was not open for today and theres a lot around this because egypt, they control the bell and we have seen Secretary Blinken go to cairo and Feeling Pressure to try to get egyptians to comply with us on allowing these individuals to get out. Then operationally once there through of course, there is an orderly transition but i think the fanaticism of what will take place can be quite daunting and fortunately of course may not be the right way to describe it but there are not that many people that processing it all is going to be very complicated and very time pressured. Some 35,000 people in gaza have taken refuge in the because hospital as she found, according to the hospitals director. Its clear they dont know where else to go because thats a recipe for disaster whenever our when we have gas they say this is war and there are brutal elements to war and casualties and accidents. I think that is true of course. This war is very ugly and it is hard to highlight positive things coming from war in general. The thing is, as we keep hearing israel is expected to pursue a very significant escalation in gaza and all signs point to insights and theyre trying to show incidences that vice asking everybody to leave, saying it is very difficult. Because the targets move, as he said earlier. Theres a game of whackamole when you are targeting hamas. They do put their mobile launchers launch vessels are mobile. The very easily placed in moscow marketplaces in the sattre. I cannot say why the targets were targeted however, that is my experience. Having seen this from the other side. And hamas knows that. Hamas knows thats why theyre asking civilians that i dont believe its because their homes are going to be taken its because they do use that as Human Shields weve seen this time and again. Or so ugly. And the things that you see that are different than the last four rounds of violence we have had between israel and gaza are number one, this effort on the part of israel to say everybody evacuate, today i saw that israel said they would be establishing a humanitarian zone that could take up to Hundreds Of Thousands of civilians that would be given food and medicine and water. Take it for what you will but it is what they said. I hope that they carry that out. He was pressing between egypt in israel to open a humanitarian corridor to be significant. And has never happened because of threats of violence. You can only hope that they do that. Its like he, said go into these hospitals, anybody who is sick or disable it is very difficult for them to evacuate. Joel, also obviously waiting for this potential Ground Invasion to begin in gaza. If that, happens how much concern is there for the hostages currently being held . Particularly these women and children . How does the idf attempt to keep them alive and freedom . This is what we are likely seeing as long of a delay as we have. Getting these hostages out is a top priority. We have allies in this. We have qatar, for example. Talking behind the scenes impressively with hamas to try to spring these people fray. These are innocence who are ripped away from israel and kidnapped and taken right into a position now where they are human shield, as i got pointed out. Their rights are being violated. This is a catastrophe. And so israel is likely waiting to see how long these allies of the United States can work. The situation should you get these individuals out. The real fear is that if that goes forward in the invasion pecans its potentially going to cost their lives. Were just looking at missing posters from the elderly to allow nine month old baby and everybody in between. Hagar, President Biden was interviewed on 60 minutes about civilians in gaza, saying he would like to see a humanitarian corridor. Lets listen. You would like to see a humanitarian supplies brought into yes. So you do not agree with the israeli total siege of the gaza strip . I am confident that israel is going to act according to the rules of war. There are standards that Democratic Institutions and countries go by. And so i cannot am confident that there is going to be inability for the innocence in gaza to be able to have access to medicine and food and water. How does that happen . How do humanitarian aid to go in when there is a Ground Offensive underway . It seems that israel is very focused on the north which is why they have asked the citizens there to evacuate to the south. And the south seems to be where they plan on setting up this humanitarian zone where they state that they will take Hundreds Of Thousands of civilians. Hundreds of thousands would be able to get water and medicine. There now, time is of the effort essence. I will believe israel when they come out and say were gonna establish this zone and try to get humanitarian aid in that way. Whether they do it by sea or through bouts or Border Crossings on both sides, likely the south by the way, i believe that effort its just a time is of the essence when youre talking about a whole area that is this war that is moving fast. Israel wants to get in on the ground. And youve got citizens who better without the food and water and so on. They say they want their pipes are going back on. This is critical by other things i dont believe were going in that weve seen. No food and no energy. And no electricity. And it will be a very difficult feat. And we know that weve already seen that difficult will be for 1. 1 people to get to that area especially since a densely populated piece of land. But the thing that we need to remember here which i think is what President Biden was trying to get that is israel has a very Clear Mission here and then to disable hamass ability to attack. They need to defeat hamas and defend israel really sees hostages. And it is a very complicated situation for that. But theyre gonna try to do it to the best of their ability according to the rules of war the democratic nations follows, and the u. S. And really focuses on supporting that mission. Humanitarian aid is a huge part of that in really the first i hear the Hasse Focus On that so heavily. Joel, before that you go ignatius wrote an oped arguing that netanyahu should wage war in a way that allows for eventual peace. He writes, if you wait until the conflict is over i think about the day after than it might be t le and if he conducts a war that punishes Palestinian Civilians rather than hamas, he might lose Global Support in undermining his mission. Do you agree . Absolutely, lindsey. The Palestinian People are suffering, theyve been suffering under hamass role. There always is a day after we know from our experience in the states theres always a day after Military Action. For israelis who want peace and security a way to get it to have a final agreement with the palestinians and this conflict so everything down in this Military Action not enough of that can be divorced from the political ramifications and it is a wise article in israels arise as well to get this you not want this to repeat softer getting rid of hamas leadership and making power they will have to be a day after scenario to try to stabilize this conflict and get to an endgame that provides peace and security for those people. Joel reuben and Hagar Chemali you can stay with us after the break. Well take a deeper look at israels goals in this war. And caught their goals clash with the possibility of more widespread conflict . Spread conflict . 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Its been incredibly effective up to this point in terms of getting our allies in the region on the same plate with the United States, in preparation for what could be an incredibly intense aliens significant amount of time.

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