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MSNBCW Inside July 3, 2024

Tonight, we are closely watching multiple developing stories that have the world on edge. And israel, thousands of troops and tanks remain on the border with gaza awaiting orders for unanticipated ground offensive. As gaza descends deeper into a humanitarian crisis. A United Nations agency says gaza is, quote, running out of life, with dwindling supplies of food, water, energy, and medicine. Up to 600 americans also remain stuck in gaza as the rafah Border Crossing into egypt is still closed. Just hours ago, we learned hamas is foreign hostages when the necessary conditions are available. But until that happens, and if that happens, the families of what we know to be at least 199 hostages await any word about their loved ones who are being held hostage by hamas. The tara group also released Video Footage of a hostage for the first time today. It shows a 21yearold woman speaking to the camera under duress. And it is unclear when it was actually recorded. Right now, its 3 am in israel, and Secretary Of State Anthony Blinken just concluded a Marathon Meeting with Prime Minister netanyahu, stretching more than seven hours through two rounds of air raids and Secretary Blinken is expected to make an announcement at any moment. We will bring that to you live as soon as we hear it starting. In iran, tehrans former minister gave a stark warning today saying, quote, if the crimes and gaza do not stop immediately, new fronts will be open. Thats what were already seeing, action on the border. This comes while israel moves to evacuate nearest border with lebanon, as tensions are flaring up with the iranianbacked terror group, hezbollah, one of their proxies. In brussels, two people were shot dead just hours ago, and the suspect is still at large. While the motive is still not clear, its being investigated as a terror attack. Authorities in belgian say the suspect posted on social media that he was inspired by the islamic state. Brett and brussels to its highest level. Back here at home, President Biden is strongly considering a trip to israel. Those discussions are happening in the white house as we speak. As soon as this week. Brie u. S. Officials said planning are underway, including on the ground in israel for a potential visit. This news comes after the trip to colorado today, instead meeting with his National Security team to discuss the escalating conflict in the middle east. And in illinois, a family gathered today at for the funeral of a sixyearold palestinian boy who was brutally stabbed to death in his home but his landlord. Authorities say he was killed because he was muslim, and the Department Of Justice has now opened a federal hate Crimes Investigation into this senseless, horrific attack. We clearly have so much news to cover tonight. Were gonna get into all of it, and we have the Perfect People to do it with. Senator chris murphy and former governor Chris Christie will be among my guests, but we start our coverage tonight with john brennan, former director of the cia, and jeremy bash, who served as Chief Of Staff about the cia and the pentagon in the obama administration. Clearly a lot going on. I appreciate you both being here with the this evening. Director brennan, i want to start with you. Hamas says theyre prepared to receive the nonisraeli prisoners when they felt the conditions have been met. What theyve also said is they will release foreign nationals, not israelis. How do you think this could impact israels plans for a Ground Invasion . Well, certainly, israel has to lyttons to these office. I seem to believe that hamas lacks any credibility at this point. And they may be facing internal divisions within hamas, as well as external pressure coming from arab states such as egypt and qatar, to be at least somewhat accommodating. But i do think its an effort to try to delay or to make it even more difficult for netanyahu and the israeli war cabinet to make the decision to move in. If there is some prospect or hope that hamas is dangling director brennan. I dont want to cut you off, but were gonna go directly to Secretary Blinken to hear his remarks and come back to you. Hes coming here to do the following. First, the president will reaffirm the United States solidarity with israel. And our ironclad commitment to its security. President biden will look and make clear, as hes done unequivocally since the massive slaughter of more than 1400 people, including at least 30 americans, that israel has the right, and indeed the duty, to defend its people from hamas and other terrorists, and to prevent future attacks. The president will hear from israel what it needs to defend its people as we continue to work with congress to meet those needs. Second, President Biden will underscore our Crystal Clear message to any actor, state or non state, trying to take advantage of this crisis to attack israel. Dont. Its one of the Main Missions of Secretary Blinken in the region to sit down with his egyptian counterparts and pressured them to work diligently to open that border. The reason that border hasnt been opened does because hamas has wanted the issue, and egypt has not wanted the people. Let me say that again. Hamas has wanted the issue to hand in the civilian population and not let the math. They control one side of that border. And egypt does not want those palestinians to come into egypt. So really, it really falls on hamas and egypt to work this out, to open that land border, to let people out, to let humanitarians assistance in. We happen to have 600 americans who are there. Thats our number one priority from the perspective of the United States department of state. But there are hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians who need humanitarian relief, and who need that crossing to be open so they can get to egypt and get to safety. Director brennan, so much happened today in the news, and one of the things that happened is, of course, this shooting today that left two people dead in brussels. We dont know the motive, we dont know a lot of details at this point. Its gonna take some time. But youre someone who is focused on watching out for and predicting loan wolf tax, you know, people who are copycats. How concerned are you about that and some of the other threats of violence youve seen in europe and the United States in the last couple of days . Very concerned. Im concerned about what hamas might have planned in terms of carrying out Terrorist Attacks inside of israel with some of the sleepers that are still there, that were able to infiltrate the borders as part of these Terrorist Attacks. The copycats, the ones that are out there, this awful shooting in belgium that does seem to be motivated by events in gaza. And so, i do think its very prudent for officials around the globe to be able to take conditional Security Measures at synagogues, a Jewish Community centers, a potential targets, but also, as we saw, tragically, in chicago, emotions are running high on all sides here. And so, i do think that this period of time is one that we have to be very watchful in terms of what might still happen. Were still in the very, i think, early stages of what is going to unfortunately be a protracted conflict that can have manifestations far side of the gaza israel area. Director john brennan, jeremy bash, thank you so much for being with me and hanging with me through the announcement of Secretary Blinken. I appreciate you being here with me tonight. For those just joining us moments ago, Secretary Of State Anthony Blinken announced that President Biden will be visiting israel on wednesday, also announcing that the United States and israel have agreed to develop a plan that will enable humanitarian aid to reach civilians and gaza. This comes as hamas says it is holding between 200 and 250 hostages and total, and they announced that they will release the foreign hostages if the necessary conditions are available. And gaza, the humanitarian crisis is worsening by the era. Palestinians have resorted to drinking salty tap water since there is no fuel to run the Water Treatment plant. Theres still no update on when aid supplies can get into gaza since the rafah Border Crossing into egypt remains closed. Join me now is democratic senator chris murphy, hes a member of the Foreign Relations committee. Senator, thank you so much again for joining me this evening. We just learned that President Biden will visit israel, and i just wanted to get your reaction to that news, and what you hope you will accomplish on that trip. Well, this will be an absolutely extraordinary visit, coming just days after these unconscionable Terrorist Attacks, and at the very moment, that israel is contemplating its next steps. I think joe biden has shown the world why American Leadership is still indispensable, and i think its going to send an incredibly strong signal to hamas, but the other enemies of israel and the United States, when joe biden in Benjamin Netanyahu and his war cabinet are Standing Shoulder to shoulder in support of the israeli people. Im very glad to hear the news today of a plan for humanitarian aid to reach gaza. Thats absolutely critical. There doesnt have to be a choice made here between going after those who carried out these heinous crimes and making sure that families and gaza, especially children in gaza, are not unduly harmed, and again, a really exceptional moment. Seven hours of meetings with the Secretary Of State and israeli leaders, once again, showing how deeply committed the Biden Administration is to helping israel hold to account the people who committed these crimes, but getting it right. Senator, there was also news today, ill just note, hamas is not exactly a trusted source of information, but there was news that they would be potentially open to releasing foreign nationals, including American Citizens, at the right time. Now that, of course, does not include israeli citizens. What do you make of that . And should that deal be accepted if that actually becomes a reality . Well, its obviously really critical that these hostages be released immediately. And we are working, as we know, through the qataris, who do have a conduit for hamas to try to get this release as soon as possible. I think we should be careful to cede to demands being placed on these hostages release. Obviously, we want to get them back as quickly as possible. I think hamas is coming to the realization that holding these hostages does them much more harm than good, and my hope is that theyll be out of harms way soon. It also gives them some leverage, and if they keep the israelis, its hard to imagine how theyre gonna get them back. Very difficult circumstance. I wanted to ask you about the department of defenses announcement today about the deployment, or asking members of the military to beat prepared to deploy, i should say, to the middle east. Were told if they were deployed, they would go to a nearby country to be prepared to support israel in the war against hamas. What do you think that support should look like . Are you comfortable with what youve seen announced . Either more details youre looking for about the deployment . So, we have not received any briefing on what the nature of that deployment would be. But clearly, we are contemplating transferring some significant defensive equipment to israel. Much of that equipment needs u. S. Support and backup. And we also have significant u. S. Assets in the region. We have thousands of u. S. Troops there, and as this conflict threatens to widen, it just makes sense for us to bring increased assets to bear in the region to send the signal to iran and others that they want to increase the scope of this conflict, but theyre eventually going to come head to head with the United States. So in order to best support israel, especially as we flow more lethal aid to them, theres going to need to be some american personnel to provide logistical support, but we also want to mix in that small message of deterrence to others in the region. The white house wants congress to pass an aipac. You want aid package to israel. Aide to palestinians to be included. Do you think it should include specific assistance for gaza . How do you think that should be structured . Its obviously gonna be difficult to deliver that, but theyre in such dire need. Well, this announcement, likely, makes the inclusion of aid more viable. Theres obviously a question as to whether we were gonna be able to get that aid in, now we might be able to have a pathway to get aid into gaza. The u. N. Has already issued an appeal, and im pressing the administration and my colleagues to make sure the United States does its part to meet that appeal. Others will contribute funding as well. But certainly, and makes sense to flow forward the weapons, the interceptors, that israel needs, along with the money necessary to deal with the humanitarian consequences of this war. Thats how we approach conflict overseas. We put in the money necessary to fight the bad guys, but then we also put in the money to try to hold civilians as harmless as possible. And we should simply stay true to that historic strategy, that historic plan, as we help israel go after hamas inside gaza. Youre very familiar, senator, with the dynamics in the region. Youve been working on these issues for so many years. I was asking my prior guests about egypt in the rafah crossing, because theres been so much conflicting information about whats happening there and why its closed. What is your assessment of whats happening in their . What needs to happen in order for the rafah crossing to open . It is up to 600 americans, of course, stuck in gaza right now. Yeah. I will say this is very frustrating. I understand egypts concern, which is that if the crossing is completely opened, you would have a massive flow of refugees into the sinai, which egypt can simply not handle. But there is a way to have a limited opening so that americans can leave and supplies, humanitarian relief, can come in. Egypt is a supposed ally of the United States. In fact, the only country that gets more military aid coming from taxpayers in the United States than egypt is israel. Theyre the second biggest recipient of u. S. Military aid. So it is frustrating that it has been so difficult to convince egypt to open up that crossing for these limited purposes. My hope is that tomorrow, you will see that crossing opened, and you will see americans coming out, humanitarian aid going in, and will no longer have to be in negotiation with egypt over this. Egypt is obviously a very important partner and the National Security front of the United States. As you mentioned, the United States should not be part of the discussion if they dont open up this Border Crossing . Well, the idea of this military aid is that it binds egypt to us. Ive been a critic of years to the amount of military aid that we give to egypt, and the supporters of it say its absolutely necessary in order to make sure that when the chips are down, when a crisis is in our midst, that egypt well ally with us, or side with us. And right now, were having a really hard time getting egypt to just do the basics of opening up that crossing. So of course, if this continues to be an issue, if we cant commit convince the egyptians to let americans out and let aid in, of course thats gonna have consequences for our relationship with egypt in the future. And a reminder of the refugees having very few places to go, and thats also a big challenge. Senator chris murphy, thank you so much for joining me this evening. Appreciate your time. Republican president ial candidate Chris Christie joins me after a quick break. Ill get his reaction to tonights Breaking News. Stay with us. Its going to send an incredibly strong signal to hamas, but the other enemies of israel and the United States, when joe biden in Benjamin Netanyahu and his war cabinet are Standing Shoulder to shoulder in support of the israeli people. Im very glad to hear the news today of a plan for humanitarian aid to reach gaza. Thats absolutely critical. There doesnt have to be a choice made here between going after those who carried out these heinous crimes and making sure that families and gaza, especially children in gaza, are not unduly harmed, and again, a really exceptional moment. Seven hours of meetings with the Secretary Of State and israeli leaders, once again, showing how deeply committed the Biden Administration i

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