Good day, im Chris Jansing live at msnbc headquarters in new york city. Desperation and danger growing as critical aid remains stuck at the egypt, gaza border. A live report from cairo as humanitarian workers warn that the main hospital on the strip wont have electricity for much longer. At this minute, House Republicans just started huddling Behind Closed Doors after a short time ago, jim jordan failed for a third time to lockdown the votes to be speaker. In fact, he actually lost support between the second and third rounds, and to say frustration is building in the republican conference is a bit of an understatement. Im really recommending against this flurry of new votes when the votes are absolutely not changing. That is a fact you can take to the grave. Everyone wants to stay here l reflect and go back to the days weve had over the last two weeks and say we did it to ourselves, folks. We did it to ourselves. And then breaking, in just the last half an hour, an extraordinary and highly significant move by one of Donald Trumps georgia codefendants, Kenneth Chesebro as Jury Selection was already underway, striking a deal with prosecutors. What this new twist could mean for the former president. And that is where we begin with Kenneth Chesebro, the third trump codefendant in the Georgia Election case who has switched his play now saying he is guilty, but this is significant. He is the first to plead guilty to a felony, a dramatic aboutface for him and he will testify. How do you plead to count 15, conspiracy to commit filing false documents in indictment number 23 sc 188947 . Guilty. This deal is that chesebro faces a much lighter sentence, no prison, instead five years probation in return for his cooperation, but the significance, again, of this moment and what it might mean for the former president cannot be overstated. Joining me now, msnbc anchor, katie phang with the latest from the Fulton County courthouse, former u. S. Attorney, university of michigan law professor, and msnbc legal analyst, barbara mcquade, and nbcs Laura Jarrett with an update from the Trump Organization fraud case in new york. Katie, lets start where you are. Walk us through exactly what happened here. Yeah, so 450 prospective jurors ended up at the courthouse to do nothing other than fill out preliminary questions. Kenneth kmeezboro, the architect of the fake elector scheme that provided the blueprints for several fake electors slates in states across the United States pleaded guilty was this was another 11th hour surprise guilty plea, although many of us expected maybe something to happen because Kenneth Chesebro and one of his Defense Attorneys were noticeably absent from the courtroom when a lot of the activity was going on, and then when, you know, around lunchtime they come back in and theres a little bit of flurry of activity because all ten members of fani williss trial team ended up inside the courtroom and thats when the guilty plea was announced. The terms of this guilty plea were consistent with the other guilty pleas weve seen so far from scott hall, the Georgia Bail Bondsman to Sidney Powell. As you noted, its the first plea to a felony so far of these 19 codefendants, and the other thing that ill note, chris, is that all of them have to provide truthful testimony, and like dominos that are falling with scott hall to Sidney Powell, to Kenneth Chesebro, lets see whether or not any of the remaining 16 are going toake a plea, but notably judge mcafee was waiting for Thesebro Powell Trial to conclude before providing a trial date for former President Donald Trump and the remaining 16 codefendants. So now that theres no trial, i anticipate a Case Management conference very soon where that trial date gets set. All right, barbara, tell us just how big of a deal is this . This is enormous. First, chris, its because Kenneth Chesebro has pleaded guilty. Thats one fewer second is cooperation, which will be enormously important. He was the architect of the fake about that and about that scheme, he could certainly be very hes been also donald trump. But third, theres they were going to have to try this case twice, where all the other defendants would get a pretty view of the evidence. Now that this case is off the table they will not have to do this trial twice, they can focus on the remaining defendants, and my guess as katie said, the dominos are starting to fall. This may not be the last domino fall. It may be that we end up so katie, i guess the question that i have is when you talk about dominos falling,its also a question of do they need another domino to fall . They have Sidney Powell who was essentially the face of this case, right, in a prodonald trump sense. She was all over television, conservative television, and now you have the person who as you rightly point out was at the center of this case, so tell us what happens next, what you see going on here. The questions really good from you, chris. Its do you need them versus do you want them . And i think as a former prosecutor, if you still have this many defendants left, the answer is yes. You want to stack the deck against those that are foolish enough not to take a guilty plea and proceed to a trial, even though it is, of course, your constitutional right to go to a jury trial in any state in the United States. In this instance, we skipped a lot of the rungs in the ladder, right . Scott hall the Georgia Bail Bondsman at the lower rung in the ladder of the important food chain. We skipped a lot of rungs when we got to Sidney Powell. I think youre going to see more plays from the people involved in Coffee County. Remember, this was a huge conspiracy net across the United States, but id like to look at it in buckets. Youve got the Coffee County bucket, for example, the breach of the lex equipment, and the Voting Equipment there. That was a Sidney Powell, scott hall and others event. And then youll also see what happened with the intimidation tactics, with ruby freeman and shaye moss. I expect youre going to see people being picked off one by one from each of those buckets. Youre trying to take out the foundation from the punitive the guy whos the mafia boss. If youre fani willis, chip, chip, chip away. Keep on trying to get as many people as possible so that ultimately donald trump has to decide whether or not he thinks he can go to trial against 18 of his codefendants testifying against him. Barbara, does it necessarily follow that if you take a plea deal that includes a felony, even though its not prison, includes a felony, that you know more or how valuable does your testimony need to be for prosecutors to say, we think we have you on a felony, with but i dont want to say walk away from this, there are other things he has to do, like Significant Community service, to make this kind of deal . I think all of these initial deals are favorable to the defendants in terms of the prosecutors have given up quite a bit in exchange. The first people in the door get the best deals because of this Domino Effect that exists. Getting these early guilty pleas can be incredibly valuable, that oftentimes they are willing to cut better deals. The next people in the door may not fare so well. But theyre all watching, because of that phenomenon, theyre often willing to do that. The other thing i would say is prosecutors have this phrase, they say you dont buy a pig in a poke. Which goes back to the idea of buying livestock sight unseen. So before you agree to this deal, you want to hear what he has to say, and all of these defendants have been providing video reported proffers as part of the plea agreement. So before prosecutors agree to give this deal, they have heard what he can deliver, and only a defendant who can provide whats called substantial assistance that is a term of art, that can be used in the prosecution of others, receives this kind of deal, so i think that prosecutors, based on the deal they were able to give here are receiving a lot in exchange. Laura, and i want to move on to new york, but i have to give you a chance to weigh in on this first. I think its Worth Unpacking exactly what hes pleading guilty to, which is conspiring to file false statements, false documents as it relates to the false slates of electors in georgia. Remember, he put up these fake protrump slate of electors. You cant have a conspiracy without other people, of course katie and barbara know well. You have to have more than one person, and in this conspiracy, prosecutors allege that the former president is part of that conspiracy. Rudy giuliani is part of that conspiracy. John eastman is part of that conspiracy. He now has to provide truthful testimony if called to the witness stand about all of them. So even though hes pleading guilty to something narrow, the wider conspiracy, prosecutors get to tell that story through ken chesebro now. Which makes it sound like this is not the best thing for the former president , but he isnt having a fantastic day, laura, which brings me to the fraud trial in new york. The judge is now threatening trump with jail. Whats going on . This is a civil trial. This is about the gag order. Judge engoron Put A Gag Order in place saying please do not talk about my court staff. The former president had actually posted something on truth social that involved the judges clerk. The judge said, look, things are so heated right now. Stop that, i do not want that. It puts her life at risk. The campaign left a post on the website for the past 17 days. It came to the judges attention, and he tore into trump and his attorneys this morning in Court Essentially saying, look, i have to figure out sanctions here, and tell me why i shouldnt put your compliant in jail for having willfully violated my gag order. Well wait to see actually a formal order. Thats footage earlier from the former president. Hes not there today. Well wait to see a formal order from the judge. He was furious by all accounts from those who were in court. Everybody knows the first rule of anything in court is you do not go after the judges staff, and yet, former president ignored essentially this gag order. So the judge is feeling like he has to do something in response. Barbara, what do you make of this move by the judge and do you think in the other cases involving donald trump, the judges are watching exactly whats happening there in new york . I think this was an important moment for the judge to let know that this is not just something hes going to say. Hes going to back it up. I do think, for example, judge chutkan has a gag order in place. I think all the judges who are presiding over these cases have to be on notice that, number one these orders are appropriate, and number two, the trump team is not so willing to comply with them. So i think everyone now is on notice that these gag orders have some teeth. Barbara mcquade, katie phang, Laura Jarrett, thanks to all of you. Now, amid the israelhamas war, President Biden is now meeting with the president of the European Council as well as the president of the european commission. Theyre at the white house right now, and just moments ago, reporters got a chance to ask questions. The president answering one about the delay in getting aid to gaza. Lets listen. What do you make of that what do you make of that . Ill answer that one question, and ill say goodbye to all of you. I believe youll see that i got a commitment from the israelis and the president of egypt that the crossing be opened. Highway had to be repaved because it was in very bad shape, and i believe that the next 24 to 48 hours, the first 20 trucks will come across. Thank you. Thank you so much. As weve been hearing, were going to talk more about this coming up. Time is of the essence for getting that aid into gaza, but then theres the whole other situation happening on capitol hill where another speaker vote has ended in a stalemate. Were back in just 60 seconds. P to your routine. Listerine is 5x more effective than floss at reducing plaque above the gumline. For a cleaner, healthier mouth. Ahhhhh. Listerine. Feel the whoa take a moment to pause and ask, why did you get vaccinated against Pneumococcal Pneumonia . I help others. But i need to help protect myself. Honestly . I couldnt afford to get sick. I want to be there for this one. I cant if im sick. 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So here we are, day 17. The house is still paralyzed. A roadblock President Biden acknowledges while arguing the aid is vital not just to israel and ukraine, but also for u. S. Security. I know we have our divisions at home. We have to get past them. We cant let petty partisan angry politics get in the way of our responsibility as a great nation. Joining us now nbcs ali vitali on capitol hill yet again. Nbcs Aaron Gilchrist is at the white house, and matthew dowd joins us, former Chief Strategist for the Bush Cheney 2002 campaign and a senior msnbc political analyst. So ali, is there a plan i dont want to say b, z at this point . What are you hearing from republicans after this third vote turned out even worse for jim jordan . He just keeps losing votes. Reporter well, chris, im back in the basement. Republicans back Behind Closed Doors, and i just saw a lot of boxes of pizza rolling into the room, so they may be hunkered down in there for a good long while, especially because our understanding of one of the things that might come up in these closed door meetings is potentially revoting Behind Closed Doors to affirm in the words of what one member said to me that jim jordan is actually the Majority Choice of the party. I dont know if that ballot is going to be what weve seen it be in the past when theyve voted Behind Closed Doors, which is typically a Secret Ballot as opposed to maybe its something where they do this more widely so that everyone can see who stands where. Im not sure what the mechanics of that look like at this point. When i caught one jordan just in the last two minutes as he was walking into the room, he told me he didnt to want get into what they were going to do in this conference meeting, but i asked him if he thought his member should stay the weekend and continue to just hash this out. He said that the house needed a speaker, no word officially on if that means theyre staying and leaving and coming back on monday to try again. Theres certainly this juxtaposition between those who are in jordans camp who are saying continue to grind this out. Jordan himself made a reference to the fact that mccarthy went 15 ballots before becoming the speaker of the house. Thats true, but at the same time, jordans progress over these three votes has been trending in the opposite direction that he would want it to be trending, which is to say on this last balloting round he lost three more people who flipped from being in his corner to now being against him. Thats a clear sign from within the conference, and im going to be interested to see if they do another vote thats meant to either affirm him as the speaker designate or not, a, if its not jordan, then who . And if it is jordan, does anyone in that room change their mind in a significant way that puts him either closer or further away from getting to the finish line here. And in the, i dont know, weirdness, matthew of everything thats been going on, you have the former speaker Kevin Mccarthy actually giving the nominating speech for jordan, and it was interesting to listen to the reaction when clearly he was aware of the criticism against jim jordan that in 16 years in the house, he never had a bill he sponsored signed into law. Listen to this. Let me correct the record, jim jordan is an effective legislator. [ applause ] to legislate is about more than the name on the bill. Its about reaching compromise and working long hours behind the scenes to get the job done. And that gavel was there will be order in the