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MSNBCW The July 3, 2024

The, way candidates for Speaker Of The House have until noon today to declare their candidacy. There is a lot of them. Assistant democratic leader of the house, congressman james claiborne, joins me live to discuss. Faceoff. Donald trumps former fixer, Michael Cohen, will be in the same new york courtroom this week as the judge in trumps Civil Fraud Trial threatens to jail the twice impeached four times indicted former president. Im jonathan capehart, this is the sunday show. This morning, new developments in the israelhamas war. A convoy of 17 trucks carrying aid from gaza has quashed the Rafah Border A Day after a convoy of 20 trucks delivered food and medical supplies to the gaza strip. Also new this morning, the Israeli Military says that it killed the Deputy Commander of the Hamas Rocket Fire for us while pounding hamas targets in the gaza strip. Nbc news has not independently verified this claim. That Development Comes as israel amps up its airstrikes in preparation for the, quote, next stages of war. This is according to the spokesman for the Israel Defense force. Those next stages could be a likely Ground Invasion, which israel has been threatening since the Hamas Terrorists attacks 15 days ago. Yesterday, the idf said its soldiers have been engaging in Field Exercises and are ready and near the gaza strip at this very moment. Also yesterday, defense secretary lloyd austin announced that the United States will increase its Military Presence in the region by redirecting the highs and our strike route to the persian golf, and send an Additional Air defense weapons to the region to help defend israel if necessary, and deter iran and its proxy forces from entering the war. The secretary also issued prepared to deploy orders for troops to be ready for deployment to the middle east. Meanwhile, israel says that at least 212 people are currently being held hostage in gaza by hamas. Joining me from israel, nbc news correspondent josh lederman. Josh, thank you for being here. Aid is on its way to gaza for secondary. What can you tell us about the shipment, and should be expect more in the coming days . That is certainly a hope, jonathan. After the shipment yesterday of 20 trucks in a convoy, that enter the gaza strip. It was unclear whether that was a oneoff or whether this is going to be something that was sustainable. That there would be deliveries every single day, which is what age groups face is so badly needed. The aid that was delivered yesterday, according to gaza health officials, was about 3 of what normally enters the gaza strip on any given day before the war. Its far less than what they need is there, given the humanitarian crisis. The good news is that today, weve seen some movement. What we know right now is that 17 aid trucks have entered the egyptian side of the border. We are still working to pin down exactly whats happened after. That whether theyre going to actually make it into gaza, that is the open question. If they, do the hope would be that this has now worked out a work flow, if you, well with the egyptians, with the israelis, and with officials in gaza to be able to make this a sustainable cadence of aid flowing into the gaza strip. Josh, any updates on when the gaza incursion might start . Well, its weird. Weve been in this Holding Pattern for probably a week, now jonathan. And where its felt in minute. These really government keeps putting out information suggesting it could happen at any moment. Here we are. It hasnt started. Yet some of that might have to do with the intensive Behind The Scenes discussions that were happening around getting those two americans out that were released on friday. Also, its possible that israel is simply making those final preparations. In the past 24 hours or so, weve learned from israels military that theyve made a decision to expand their operations, that theyre getting ready for operations that will include actions on the grounds. We are also seeing the Israeli Military put out their own video of Infantry Bug Raids practice in the battle plan. All indications, as you can, here in Military Help the copped air is going to above my head right now. This is east of the gaza strip. Israel may be ready to go on it anytime. So, far no final word on when thats going to happen. Josh, quickly, can you tell us more about the pentagon announcements increasing americans presents, Military Presence in the middle east . I think if you look at what the u. S. Is moving into the region, jonathan, its pretty clear that what the u. S. Is trying to do is not get ready for u. S. Troops to be on the ground in gaza, but to deter a wider conflict in the region, which is the big concern. The u. S. Is sending and things like the air defense system, which operates against threats from a very high altitude. Thats where patriots, anti military batteries. These are not the kinds of things you put into israel, for example, to be used to shoot down rockets from gaza. This is not the iron dome. This is more the kind of thing you put in place to deal with threats from a sovereign military such as iran, frankly. Potentially, missiles from hezbollah and lebanon. So the goal here, from the u. S. , is to really make sure that they have the Military Assets in the region. Also the troops already on standby to respond if this were to widen to involve other nations, and other militant groups. Israel is also very concerned on this. The Prime Minister, netanyahu, today, just visited a Commando Trip on israels northern border. Prime minister netanyahu is sending a warning to hezbollah that if they get involved in this war, it is going to make the last war that israel had with lebanon and hezbollah look like a walk in the park. Jonathan. Josh, reporting live from israel. Thank you very much. Pro israel and pro palestinian protests are erupting around the world. This is as israel continues to bombard gaza. 15 days after the hamas terrorist attacks. Thismorning in, and its aircraft struck the compound beneath hamas in the west bank. Palestinian medics say at least one person was killed. The Israeli Military says the compound is being used by militants to organize attacks. That comes just four days after an israeli airstrike hit the grounds of a gazan city orthodox church, sheltering displaced people. The idf says that it targeted the Hamas Command Center nearby. Nbc news said that they have not independently verified how many people died, but the hamas controlled Gaza Health Ministry said at least 18 palestinians were killed. Tensions remain dangerously high as israel prepares for a massive Ground Invasion in. Gaza despite offering his full support to israel, President Biden caution the Israeli Government against Overreach Ainge or in his Oval Office Speech on thursday. When i was in israel yesterday, i said that when americans experienced 9 11, we felt enraged as well. We sought and got justice, we made mistakes. I caution the government of israel not to be blinded by rage. Joining me, now bobby, Gauche Editor and columnist at bloomberg opinion. Bob, thank you for being here this morning. Do you think that President Bidens caution to israel, to not be, quote, blinded by rage, is getting through to Prime Minister, israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu . Will it make a difference and the trajectory of this war . One should help for, that but there is nothing that snow tanya who has said that would suggest that it has gone through to him. If, if, and we can only speculate, one of the reasons that israel has not yet speak on its ground offensive, is because of the advisement it has received. And just having an effect. We do have to reckon with the fact that netanyahu is under enormous pressure. Theres a lot of people in israel who are fired up, and want to see vengeance. Not unreasonably, after the horrific actions on october 7th. They want to see people who are responsible for that brought down, not just brought down but eliminated forever. Netanyahu is under a lot of pressure from his own people, and also, now, facing pressure from International Community to restrain it. Bobby, for at least a week now, we have been seen that the idf is in minutes. And expensive an operational activities have been announced today, but why hasnt israeli troops moved in yet, do you think . , again we can only gas, but there are some pretty obvious things to guess. The presence of all those hostages, we have presumed that they are moving them around, israels intelligence has to catch up with that. The previous times that israel had to go into gaza, they had very clear pictures of not just the buildings. Also, who is where. Where they could expect to see hamass batteries, where they could see hamas fighters, where the leaders were hiding out. They had a decent idea. Now, a, there were all these hostages. B, after what happened, israel, you forget them for second guessing everything they know. That was a tremendous intelligence failure. Commanders will wonder how much do we really know about this landscape into which israel announced this morning that it was evacuating residents in the countrys north as tensions escalated on the border with lebanon. How likely are we to see israel fighting a two front war withs runyon, iranianbacked hezbollah . Will they answer to that question lies in tehran. To some degree, in southern lebanon. Mainly its a wrong that will decide whether hezbollah goes in to israel with strength. Israel is preparing for that eventuality, but it is not something that israel has a lot of control over. The best it can do now is prepare. It has been moving people out of those areas for pretty much the entire two weeks since the attack. The fact that it continues to do so suggest that it does take that threat very seriously. The iranians will know just as much as anybody else. The person making that decision is the Supreme Leader of iran. He isnt tyrion. His calculus is how to keep israel off guard, off balance, without fully committing all of these various different assets. Bobby, there was a summit yesterday, a gaza summit, in egypt. What was its purpose . Well, there are two things. One is symbolic, one is practical. Symbolic, to gather people from representatives in countries from around the world to show israel, and that there is momentum towards this feat. I dont know if that objective is achieved. The second objective would be trying to come up with a plan to present for the israelis. All right, we want to cease fire, this is what needs to happen after the ceasefire. That also did not really materialize. It was a little bit of all, its not an important for leaders to gather moments like this, but i dont think anything substantive came out of it. The reason for that is that the four most important protagonists were not represented. Hamas is obviously not represented as a terrorist group. Israel was not represented. The United States was not represented. Iran is not represented. Without these four, any discussion about the future of what happens in gaza, israel, can only be that is an excellent point to end on. Bobby gauche, thank you very much for coming to the sunday show. Anytime. Next, back to the drawing board. House republicans scramble to elect a new leader after a couple weeks at the capitol. Assistant democratic leader of South Carolina joins me next to give me his take, after the break. Ter th break. Is it possible my network could take my business to the next level . It is with comcast business. Powering all your devices with gigspeed wifi. And you get fast downloads and uploads. Pick it up pick it up oh we got this because its powered by The Next Generation 10g network. More speed for your business . Its not just possible. Its happening. Get started for 59. 99 a month for 12 months. Plus, ask how to get an 800 prepaid card with a qualifying internet bundle. Comcast business, powering possibilities. The power goes out and we still have wifi to do our homework. And thats a good thing . Great in my book who are you . No power . No problem. Introducing stormready wifi. Now you can stay reliably connected through Power Outages with unlimited cellular data and up to 4 hours of battery backup to keep you online. Only from xfinity. The endless quest for a new home of the xfinity 10g network. Speaker of the house is entering a new phase. Candidates for the gavel have until noon today to declare their intentions before a candidate forms tomorrow, and unexpected vote on tuesday. At least ten republicans, many of whom voted to not certify President Bidens 2020 election, have already declare that they are running, or are considering going for the speakership. The chaos kicked into high gear after congressman, jim jordan, failed in 34 votes last week. As his republican colleagues voted by Secret Ballot voted to drop them in speakerdesignate on friday. In a stunning acknowledgment of reality, even ousted former speaker, kevin mccarthy, admitted that its a hot mess. Led by gaetz, the amount of damage theyve done to this party, to this country, its instrumentable. The crazy eights led by joining me now, Biden Campaign national cochair and Assistant Democratic leader. Clyburn, as always, thank you for coming to the sunday show. Now, of the republicans, as theyre declaring running for a, speaker is there anyone that democrats view as someone they could work with, especially since at least voted against certifying the 2020 election. Jonathan, thank you very much for having me. Six voted to certify, that means that four of the ten maybe one of the criteria that i think would be necessary. Democrats hold on a second. What are the four criteria . Sorry to interrupt. I need to hear. Four of the ten. For now, they meet at least one of the criteria that we have laid out. Got it. So they certify the electorate. We have a person running the house who will inch back support much better through the elections. I dont see the democrats voting for that. Yesterday, Congressman Garcia was on the show. He talked about how democrats are interested in a bipartisan approach to governing. What exactly does that look like . Is there an appetite for that among republicans, do you think . Well, if you remember, in the last year of congress, we had as narrow a margin as the republicans had in their majority in this congress. Weve passed six major bills. Three of which were bipartisan. I think thats one of the criteria, or three of the criteria, that will say they ought to manage. They reach across the aisle, it was necessary. There are bipartisan issues on the floor that will suit the dreams and aspirations of the american people. I think that we could go far from there. So, this is not hard. All of this is saying that we have a big country. A country of diverse thought. We are represented in this country by 435 members of the house of representatives. And about half of them are democrats, about half republicans. Lets manage the house and this is there any chance, because who knows whats going to happen with a vote that is slated for tuesday, is there any chance that speaker pro tem mchenry could be the next, could be a permanent speaker . At least have his duties expanded so that yall can get some stuff done . Well, jeffries made it clear that last week, that was something that he was amenable to. I think he had, its like, i know he had this support and that. So did sure, mchenry is considered a northerner. Hes a good guy. He recognizes the diversity of this country. Thats what you learn here and the carolinas. That the country is diversified, various thoughts, and you work with people who have different thoughts than you have. So mchenry is that kind of person. Although i dont think he wants to. Hes made it clear, its not something that he wants. I suspect that if enough republicans and democrats were to say, maybe we want you. He might change his mind. Youve been on capitol hill for a long time. You have been in, will you still are in leadership. You were with clyburn in the last congress. Have you had any Back Channel Discussions with speaker pro tem mchenry, or any of the other district republicans, as i call them, about a path forward . I have not personally had any discussions with my country. I have talked to democrats who have had discussions with my country. I think those discussions seem to be very pleasant. They seem to have been very pleasant. The doors still open. Congressman clyburn President Biden has a sense i think its 105, 105 Billion Dollar aid package for israel, ukraine, and other security priorities. House Congress Going to get this passed without a speaker . I dont think we can get it there without a speaker, unless we were doing something of a temporary nature. To expand the authority as they operate in this capacity. In order to get this in a few other things done. Doesnt say they have to do it on a permanent basis, but you make adjustments. We are

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