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Militia groups. That began just over a week ago. Now, in those instances, militants used drones and rockets to attack multiple u. S. Installations in the region. The pentagon says those attacks left 21 americans with minor injuries, one u. S. Contractor died of a cardiac van. There is a precedent here. The u. S. Has launched similar airstrikes in syria, including last march, when another u. S. Contractor was killed by a Militia Drone in syria. Defense Secretary Austin described the overnights strikes as quote, selfdefense. And in his statement, called them separate and distinct from the israel hamas conflict. But of course, iran is a backer of hamas. All of it putting u. S. Forces in a delicate position, trying to protect personnel while avoiding a larger war in the middle east. As Secretary Austin put it in his statement, quote, if attacks by irans proxies against the u. S. Forces continue, we will not hesitate to take further necessary measures to protect our people. Lets go right now to msnbcs Courtney Kube whos in washington d. C. With the latest. Courtney, what more can you tell us about these strikes and do we know what the targets exactly where . So we know a little bit more about the targets, now chris. There were two facilities at two locations. One was a weapons storage facility, and the other was an ammunitions storage facility. According to a senior u. S. Military official, the individual could not tie a direct link between the actual weapons, namely drones, that had been used against in these attacks against bases housing u. S. Military personnel in iraq and syria last eight or nine days. The official couldnt say that those exact weapons were produced or stored or anything at these locations. But the official did say that he is confident that the strikes will impact these iranianbacked proxy groups ability to continue to attack u. S. Forces, that these strikes would have that impact. Now, the strikes were carried out by f16s, to have 16, simon platform, of course, precision guided munitions to carry them out. One interesting thing according to a u. S. Military official tonight. They are still doing a Battle Damage assessment, and cannot say yet whether there were any casualties caused by the strikes, nor whether there were any iranians present at either of the locations. And why thats kind of striking to me, chris, is that the statement that we got from Secretary Of State defense lloyd austin he tonight was explicitly tying the used to the Islamic Revolutionary guard corps and group supported by iran. And when i pressed this defense official and military official on irans direct role in these attacks against u. S. Bases over the last week or so, the officials would not tie a direct link between iran directing those attacks, but did call on iran to tell those proxy groups to stand down. So of course, for our viewers who arent totally familiar with all of these attacks, there have now been 19 attacks since october 20 we see a in a rock and syria. So far, as you mentioned, ty have been largely unsuccessful in that they have not caused mass casualties. There have been more than, upwards of two dozen minor injuries, and there was one American Contractor who suffered a cardiac event during one of the air raid drills. But so far, the attacks have been largely unsuccessful. Now, the concern here is if they continue, one could be successful, and then we could see a real escalation of the situation there, chris. So this is as they see, had deescalating tactic, but having said that, talk a little bit about the conversations that have been going on since these u. S. Service members and the contractor were injured and ultimately the contractor died of a heart attack, a heart event. And now, when this action was taken, courtney. The hope here is that this will deter future attacks against bases, and so one thing we can look back on, it may be evidence that this could work as a deterrent is back in march. There was a series of attacks against u. S. Bases in iraq and syria at the same time, and in that case, a u. S. Contractor was killed by one of these attacks. The u. S. Took a series of strikes in syria very similar to this taking out facilities that they say werestorage, weapons facilities, and there might have been some places where they ease iranianbacked proxy groups are putting together weapons. That had a real impact, so since march, this port of activity has been virtually nonexistent. It all checked up again last week, last wednesday, when we started seeing a pretty steady stream of these sorts of attacks. I will say these tax have been largely marked by drones, so drones attacking these bases. Again, most of the drones have been shot down by the defenses. One thing thats also striking is that we had seen Drone Attacks in the past, but most of the previous attacks, historically, have been by mortars, rockets, indirect fire. So its a tactic using these drones that is really seem to have gotten recently. But the question is, will it deter to, tonight strikes, deter future action as they did in march. And all we can do is watch and see. I will say that if we do see this consistent stream of attacks against the spaces i am confident that the u. S. Military will continue to take strikes like we saw tonight. One thing that they are positive of is that they dont want to see as a titfortat. They dont want to be seen as an attack on the base and the u. S. Takes it strikes. But i am confident that they will continue to respond if they see the stages of attacks. Chris . Nbc,s Courtney Kube staying up late with us tonight. Thank you so much reporting from washington d. C. I want to go now to nbcs andrea mitchell. Obviously, andrea, the concern all along has been a risk of escalation in the region. They were very careful to say with the strikes that they are not directly related to the israel hamas conflict. But talk about the larger concerns and the ongoing diplomatic efforts to make sure that things do not get worse. Well thats exactly the point. Chris that is the right question to be asking because tonight when these attacks were announced and the Secretary Of State was in a Dinner Meeting after all day meetings with his chinese counterpart and the highlevel meeting was along a highest level chinese official to arrive in washington since the administration took office. And clearly this is in that setting up a bilateral meeting next month with the president coming to san francisco. Nothing has been set, or announcer its one of the purposes of this meeting. But importantly, what Secretary Blinken said at the united nations, on tuesday, was that when he met with will need this week and the means focused hes used to us tomorrow morning, he wanted to push china to talk to him to pressure around not to widen the war between israel and hamas. China needs iranian oil does britley. And every conference that he gave potentially even u. S. Forces are more between israel and hamas would inevitably raise prices and potentially constrict Iranian Oil Exports and certainly would affect chinas economy. So very much in chinas economic interest and pressure around the issue as a very corporate economic ties. And military and diplomatic did not get a gauge of this is part of the whole court at that Secretary Blinken has been engaged in not to have around opening with hezbollah or any other preparations because they work in proxy. And hearing the Iranian Revolutionary guard, very closely connected to the part of the iranian government unaffiliated groups have the targets. And now Senior Administration official told me, tonight, when asked about how this could affect the diplomacy brought in my voice. The Senior Administration official said that this was directly at the turns as described by the pentagon. But there was directed by the Iranian Revolutionary guard to strike u. S. Forces. So i spoke to the pentagon for what connecting it directly to retaliate. Housing was a deterrence. And they would deter any further strikes against u. S. Forces. Nbc, news chief Foreign Affairs correspondent, andrew mitchell. Thank you for sharing with us all the information that youve been able to gather for us tonight. I want to bring in nbc news tyrone bureau chief and correspondent reporting from tehran, around tonight. Elliott rousey. Talk to me about what youre hearing over there and any reporting that you have from your sources on the ground. Hi chris, there hasnt been any reports here on iranian media about a Mortar Strike on the facilities. Weve also been looking on all the websites that are affiliated and seen so far, and manchin. This is not something particularly unusual chris. Iran has all of these proxies across this region. And one of the main areas that they have is in syria and they have the militias working for them. They also have the backing of the government in syria. So thats a stronghold for them. And over the years the u. S. And israel has numerous facilities that they operate from in that region. But lets be very clear here, these are not facilities that are sort of a commander. These will be local, for iran, syrian militias that work and outdated and from time to time there would be supervision from iranian commanders. And when u. S. Or israel has attacked any of these bases, the commanders have been killed and they have talked about. It so i think that this is the key right now in the coming hours to see who has been killed there. If the commanders were killed and then to see if iran chooses a reaction to. That if Senior Iranian commanders were. Their run would probably turn its head away because this has happened many times before but its somebody quite high up within the iran nature reaction. But this is also clearly a warning from the white house, for iran not to try to open up another path. Not to target u. S. Interest in the region. And there have been a string of attacks by iranian militias in this region. Almost 20 of them in the last ten days. Kendis was a warning to the iranians who control, so all of these militias not to take things any further. Were gonna have to see what the iranian election will be. Obviously, a key action alley, is whether the but one of the, things weve been talking about, if you had a chance to listen is that Courtney Kube was saying they were very specific about not saying that they could tie the strikes against american troops to iran directly or at least they werent given any indication of that. But im thinking about the meeting that was held, less than 48 hours ago in lebanon. The leaders of hezbollah, jihad hamas were all sitting under a photo. A very large photo of the ayatollah, right . That is right. Not just who is the founder of this islamic resolution and his predescents or. And thats the clear indication that those and thats who they take order froms and that is who they get their money, their funding. Everything from iran. And thats no big secret. Im in the head of hezbollah has said that we take all of our orders. We take all of our spiritual direction from iran. Hezbollah is an iranian creation. They created hezbollah in the early 80s. And this is more closely connected. This is very and one with one another. And yes there may be times when people are correct when they say it is a direct order given from iran. But they dont need to give direct orders. Theres an understanding between what needs to be done at what time. Theres proxies that have been built up over decades. And then we know what to do. They are efficient. And they know what to do. And they know when the right time to strike is. And why its necessary. And they dont necessarily have to have permission because theres a understanding of how to keep this region on edge and frightened of iran. And it worked so far. Let me just ask you briefly, were just about out of time ali but do expect seeing that there is nothing so far would expect there to be any reporting on this regionally . And if so, if that does happen what would be the spin on it . The reporting would depend on the iranian access would that back. But if around the, and if there was a Senior Iranian commander they would probably reported that but it depends what their reaction would be. They have been other times on the u. S. Has hit bases there and the iranians have turned their head away, not reported it. But when Somebody Senior has gone up there, they have reported. It and then the reaction would be either to turn their heads away and not do anything about it or set up attacks again with u. S. And threats with the region. And thats what would be determined in the coming hours today if theres a retaliation by militia and russia iran, syria or anywhere else in that region against u. S. Nbc News Tehran Bureau chief ali arouzi, thank you so much for joining us. And coming, up more on the u. S. And syria with Military Analysis with retired Four Star General and a National Security expert. Well be right back. Goli, taste your goals. The power goes out and we still have wifi to do our homework. And thats a good thing . Great in my book who are you . No power . No problem. Introducing stormready wifi. Now you can stay reliably connected through Power Outages with unlimited cellular data and up to 4 hours of battery backup to keep you online. Only from xfinity. We are watching for new home of the xfinity 10g network. Development in the middle east us this morning as the u. S. Has launched airstrikes on two targets in syria. It says, were used by iranian backed militias that have struck at u. S. Troops in the region with drones and rockets. U. S. Officials are saying that attack on u. S. Positions injured nearly two dozen americans. And the response is narrowly tailored and in selfdefense. All of this as iran has that in the u. S. Word support of the Israeli Offensive against hamas and gaza. The u. S. Warning iran and the militia to back off. As tensions in the region remain very high. Joining me now, retired four star u. S. Army general barry mccaffrey, a veteran of the vietnam war. And former battlefield commander in the persian golf. Kevin barons editorial director for political live within expertise National Security and Foreign Affairs. It is great to have both lead at night general. I want to read a little bit from Secretary Austin statement. In and he says, quote, iran wants to hide its hand and deny its role in the attacks against our forces. We will not let them. Did the administration under the circumstances, as you see, it, general have any choice but to respond . No. This has been going up 19 attacks and essentially in the next 10 to 15 days. 21 wounded, clearly iran was signaling to draw our attention with false reporters of israel. They have clearly orchestrating that hezbollah accordance in the north of israel, the hamas 30,000 potential fighters and the Houthi Militias and they have struck u. S. Elements in both iraq and syria. They have been threatening to u. S. Naval forces at sea. And so the biden administration, which i think did not want escalation of this war was essentially signaling the military power to stop it. It is not over. This thing is going to get worse before it gets better. But i think within an appropriate response by Secretary Austin. Well clearly, kevin, President Biden had been under increasing pressure to push back on stronger supported by iran. And this week he did one around Supreme Leader that the u. S. Would reonif there were further assault and in fact the u. S. Officials that are folks talk to today said that more attacks, three more came today while meeting that 19 total thatheeneral just talked about. But let me go back to the key question that aljabri raised. Will these strikes at the intended impact . Well if thempt iss as small as preventing strikes on key bases in certain areas. Then in my. It is the impact that some commentators and reservoirs are wanting our some major shifts in the u. S. Footing against around, then for now, no. As you said the most recent attacks. Quickly with all this news were reminding ourselves that earlier today some people may have missed that there was an attack on u. S. Troops, at the airbase in Northern Iraq because they stand. And that is a Military Facility at the edge of the international airport. Ive been there and talk to troops and several years back during the i. S. I. S. Wars. That recently as the end of the timber, a week before the hamas invasion, the United States had announced a color costa raid into Northern Syria to kill one of the leaders of i. S. I. S. And those, right in the last several years have come from that base. And so theres an active war going on already. The i. S. I. S. War is not open. Its just a much, much smaller and its in the background. And Central Command is trying to get some attention sits in the last year or so. So the retailer tory strikes today follows specific strikes in Northern Iraq, incurred could stand. Targeting at locations where the United States is fighting i. S. I. S. And around us on the other side of that. So thats a loaded to, yes, it can be very narrow if thats all that the United States is trying to do for now. This is fireplaces general, that frankly people could not find on a map or should people have necessarily Militia Drone<\/a> in syria. Defense Secretary Austin<\/a> described the overnights strikes as quote, selfdefense. And in his statement, called them separate and distinct from the israel hamas conflict. But of course, iran is a backer of hamas. All of it putting u. S. Forces in a delicate position, trying to protect personnel while avoiding a larger war in the middle east. As Secretary Austin<\/a> put it in his statement, quote, if attacks by irans proxies against the u. S. Forces continue, we will not hesitate to take further necessary measures to protect our people. Lets go right now to msnbcs Courtney Kube<\/a> whos in washington d. C. With the latest. Courtney, what more can you tell us about these strikes and do we know what the targets exactly where . So we know a little bit more about the targets, now chris. There were two facilities at two locations. One was a weapons storage facility, and the other was an ammunitions storage facility. According to a senior u. S. Military official, the individual could not tie a direct link between the actual weapons, namely drones, that had been used against in these attacks against bases housing u. S. Military personnel in iraq and syria last eight or nine days. The official couldnt say that those exact weapons were produced or stored or anything at these locations. But the official did say that he is confident that the strikes will impact these iranianbacked proxy groups ability to continue to attack u. S. Forces, that these strikes would have that impact. Now, the strikes were carried out by f16s, to have 16, simon platform, of course, precision guided munitions to carry them out. One interesting thing according to a u. S. Military official tonight. They are still doing a Battle Damage<\/a> assessment, and cannot say yet whether there were any casualties caused by the strikes, nor whether there were any iranians present at either of the locations. And why thats kind of striking to me, chris, is that the statement that we got from Secretary Of State<\/a> defense lloyd austin he tonight was explicitly tying the used to the Islamic Revolutionary<\/a> guard corps and group supported by iran. And when i pressed this defense official and military official on irans direct role in these attacks against u. S. Bases over the last week or so, the officials would not tie a direct link between iran directing those attacks, but did call on iran to tell those proxy groups to stand down. So of course, for our viewers who arent totally familiar with all of these attacks, there have now been 19 attacks since october 20 we see a in a rock and syria. So far, as you mentioned, ty have been largely unsuccessful in that they have not caused mass casualties. There have been more than, upwards of two dozen minor injuries, and there was one American Contractor<\/a> who suffered a cardiac event during one of the air raid drills. But so far, the attacks have been largely unsuccessful. Now, the concern here is if they continue, one could be successful, and then we could see a real escalation of the situation there, chris. So this is as they see, had deescalating tactic, but having said that, talk a little bit about the conversations that have been going on since these u. S. Service members and the contractor were injured and ultimately the contractor died of a heart attack, a heart event. And now, when this action was taken, courtney. The hope here is that this will deter future attacks against bases, and so one thing we can look back on, it may be evidence that this could work as a deterrent is back in march. There was a series of attacks against u. S. Bases in iraq and syria at the same time, and in that case, a u. S. Contractor was killed by one of these attacks. The u. S. Took a series of strikes in syria very similar to this taking out facilities that they say werestorage, weapons facilities, and there might have been some places where they ease iranianbacked proxy groups are putting together weapons. That had a real impact, so since march, this port of activity has been virtually nonexistent. It all checked up again last week, last wednesday, when we started seeing a pretty steady stream of these sorts of attacks. I will say these tax have been largely marked by drones, so drones attacking these bases. Again, most of the drones have been shot down by the defenses. One thing thats also striking is that we had seen Drone Attacks<\/a> in the past, but most of the previous attacks, historically, have been by mortars, rockets, indirect fire. So its a tactic using these drones that is really seem to have gotten recently. But the question is, will it deter to, tonight strikes, deter future action as they did in march. And all we can do is watch and see. I will say that if we do see this consistent stream of attacks against the spaces i am confident that the u. S. Military will continue to take strikes like we saw tonight. One thing that they are positive of is that they dont want to see as a titfortat. They dont want to be seen as an attack on the base and the u. S. Takes it strikes. But i am confident that they will continue to respond if they see the stages of attacks. Chris . Nbc,s Courtney Kube<\/a> staying up late with us tonight. Thank you so much reporting from washington d. C. I want to go now to nbcs andrea mitchell. Obviously, andrea, the concern all along has been a risk of escalation in the region. They were very careful to say with the strikes that they are not directly related to the israel hamas conflict. But talk about the larger concerns and the ongoing diplomatic efforts to make sure that things do not get worse. Well thats exactly the point. Chris that is the right question to be asking because tonight when these attacks were announced and the Secretary Of State<\/a> was in a Dinner Meeting<\/a> after all day meetings with his chinese counterpart and the highlevel meeting was along a highest level chinese official to arrive in washington since the administration took office. And clearly this is in that setting up a bilateral meeting next month with the president coming to san francisco. Nothing has been set, or announcer its one of the purposes of this meeting. But importantly, what Secretary Blinken<\/a> said at the united nations, on tuesday, was that when he met with will need this week and the means focused hes used to us tomorrow morning, he wanted to push china to talk to him to pressure around not to widen the war between israel and hamas. China needs iranian oil does britley. And every conference that he gave potentially even u. S. Forces are more between israel and hamas would inevitably raise prices and potentially constrict Iranian Oil Exports<\/a> and certainly would affect chinas economy. So very much in chinas economic interest and pressure around the issue as a very corporate economic ties. And military and diplomatic did not get a gauge of this is part of the whole court at that Secretary Blinken<\/a> has been engaged in not to have around opening with hezbollah or any other preparations because they work in proxy. And hearing the Iranian Revolutionary<\/a> guard, very closely connected to the part of the iranian government unaffiliated groups have the targets. And now Senior Administration<\/a> official told me, tonight, when asked about how this could affect the diplomacy brought in my voice. The Senior Administration<\/a> official said that this was directly at the turns as described by the pentagon. But there was directed by the Iranian Revolutionary<\/a> guard to strike u. S. Forces. So i spoke to the pentagon for what connecting it directly to retaliate. Housing was a deterrence. And they would deter any further strikes against u. S. Forces. Nbc, news chief Foreign Affairs<\/a> correspondent, andrew mitchell. Thank you for sharing with us all the information that youve been able to gather for us tonight. I want to bring in nbc news tyrone bureau chief and correspondent reporting from tehran, around tonight. Elliott rousey. Talk to me about what youre hearing over there and any reporting that you have from your sources on the ground. Hi chris, there hasnt been any reports here on iranian media about a Mortar Strike<\/a> on the facilities. Weve also been looking on all the websites that are affiliated and seen so far, and manchin. This is not something particularly unusual chris. Iran has all of these proxies across this region. And one of the main areas that they have is in syria and they have the militias working for them. They also have the backing of the government in syria. So thats a stronghold for them. And over the years the u. S. And israel has numerous facilities that they operate from in that region. But lets be very clear here, these are not facilities that are sort of a commander. These will be local, for iran, syrian militias that work and outdated and from time to time there would be supervision from iranian commanders. And when u. S. Or israel has attacked any of these bases, the commanders have been killed and they have talked about. It so i think that this is the key right now in the coming hours to see who has been killed there. If the commanders were killed and then to see if iran chooses a reaction to. That if Senior Iranian<\/a> commanders were. Their run would probably turn its head away because this has happened many times before but its somebody quite high up within the iran nature reaction. But this is also clearly a warning from the white house, for iran not to try to open up another path. Not to target u. S. Interest in the region. And there have been a string of attacks by iranian militias in this region. Almost 20 of them in the last ten days. Kendis was a warning to the iranians who control, so all of these militias not to take things any further. Were gonna have to see what the iranian election will be. Obviously, a key action alley, is whether the but one of the, things weve been talking about, if you had a chance to listen is that Courtney Kube<\/a> was saying they were very specific about not saying that they could tie the strikes against american troops to iran directly or at least they werent given any indication of that. But im thinking about the meeting that was held, less than 48 hours ago in lebanon. The leaders of hezbollah, jihad hamas were all sitting under a photo. A very large photo of the ayatollah, right . That is right. Not just who is the founder of this islamic resolution and his predescents or. And thats the clear indication that those and thats who they take order froms and that is who they get their money, their funding. Everything from iran. And thats no big secret. Im in the head of hezbollah has said that we take all of our orders. We take all of our spiritual direction from iran. Hezbollah is an iranian creation. They created hezbollah in the early 80s. And this is more closely connected. This is very and one with one another. And yes there may be times when people are correct when they say it is a direct order given from iran. But they dont need to give direct orders. Theres an understanding between what needs to be done at what time. Theres proxies that have been built up over decades. And then we know what to do. They are efficient. And they know what to do. And they know when the right time to strike is. And why its necessary. And they dont necessarily have to have permission because theres a understanding of how to keep this region on edge and frightened of iran. And it worked so far. Let me just ask you briefly, were just about out of time ali but do expect seeing that there is nothing so far would expect there to be any reporting on this regionally . And if so, if that does happen what would be the spin on it . The reporting would depend on the iranian access would that back. But if around the, and if there was a Senior Iranian<\/a> commander they would probably reported that but it depends what their reaction would be. They have been other times on the u. S. Has hit bases there and the iranians have turned their head away, not reported it. But when Somebody Senior<\/a> has gone up there, they have reported. It and then the reaction would be either to turn their heads away and not do anything about it or set up attacks again with u. S. And threats with the region. And thats what would be determined in the coming hours today if theres a retaliation by militia and russia iran, syria or anywhere else in that region against u. S. Nbc News Tehran Bureau<\/a> chief ali arouzi, thank you so much for joining us. And coming, up more on the u. S. And syria with Military Analysis<\/a> with retired Four Star General<\/a> and a National Security<\/a> expert. Well be right back. Goli, taste your goals. The power goes out and we still have wifi to do our homework. And thats a good thing . Great in my book who are you . No power . No problem. Introducing stormready wifi. Now you can stay reliably connected through Power Outages<\/a> with unlimited cellular data and up to 4 hours of battery backup to keep you online. Only from xfinity. We are watching for new home of the xfinity 10g network. Development in the middle east us this morning as the u. S. Has launched airstrikes on two targets in syria. It says, were used by iranian backed militias that have struck at u. S. Troops in the region with drones and rockets. U. S. Officials are saying that attack on u. S. Positions injured nearly two dozen americans. And the response is narrowly tailored and in selfdefense. All of this as iran has that in the u. S. Word support of the Israeli Offensive<\/a> against hamas and gaza. The u. S. Warning iran and the militia to back off. As tensions in the region remain very high. Joining me now, retired four star u. S. Army general barry mccaffrey, a veteran of the vietnam war. And former battlefield commander in the persian golf. Kevin barons editorial director for political live within expertise National Security<\/a> and Foreign Affairs<\/a>. It is great to have both lead at night general. I want to read a little bit from Secretary Austin<\/a> statement. In and he says, quote, iran wants to hide its hand and deny its role in the attacks against our forces. We will not let them. Did the administration under the circumstances, as you see, it, general have any choice but to respond . No. This has been going up 19 attacks and essentially in the next 10 to 15 days. 21 wounded, clearly iran was signaling to draw our attention with false reporters of israel. They have clearly orchestrating that hezbollah accordance in the north of israel, the hamas 30,000 potential fighters and the Houthi Militias<\/a> and they have struck u. S. Elements in both iraq and syria. They have been threatening to u. S. Naval forces at sea. And so the biden administration, which i think did not want escalation of this war was essentially signaling the military power to stop it. It is not over. This thing is going to get worse before it gets better. But i think within an appropriate response by Secretary Austin<\/a>. Well clearly, kevin, President Biden<\/a> had been under increasing pressure to push back on stronger supported by iran. And this week he did one around Supreme Leader<\/a> that the u. S. Would reonif there were further assault and in fact the u. S. Officials that are folks talk to today said that more attacks, three more came today while meeting that 19 total thatheeneral just talked about. But let me go back to the key question that aljabri raised. Will these strikes at the intended impact . Well if thempt iss as small as preventing strikes on key bases in certain areas. Then in my. It is the impact that some commentators and reservoirs are wanting our some major shifts in the u. S. Footing against around, then for now, no. As you said the most recent attacks. Quickly with all this news were reminding ourselves that earlier today some people may have missed that there was an attack on u. S. Troops, at the airbase in Northern Iraq<\/a> because they stand. And that is a Military Facility<\/a> at the edge of the international airport. Ive been there and talk to troops and several years back during the i. S. I. S. Wars. That recently as the end of the timber, a week before the hamas invasion, the United States<\/a> had announced a color costa raid into Northern Syria<\/a> to kill one of the leaders of i. S. I. S. And those, right in the last several years have come from that base. And so theres an active war going on already. The i. S. I. S. War is not open. Its just a much, much smaller and its in the background. And Central Command<\/a> is trying to get some attention sits in the last year or so. So the retailer tory strikes today follows specific strikes in Northern Iraq<\/a>, incurred could stand. Targeting at locations where the United States<\/a> is fighting i. S. I. S. And around us on the other side of that. So thats a loaded to, yes, it can be very narrow if thats all that the United States<\/a> is trying to do for now. This is fireplaces general, that frankly people could not find on a map or should people have necessarily Encyclopedia Knowledge<\/a> where u. S. Military bases are. But kevin brings up a good point. And so if you could help us put it into context. These attacks against American Forces<\/a>, d. O. D. Says that from october 17th through tuesday the u. S. And Coalition Forces<\/a> were attacked at least ten separate times in iraq. Three times in syria, they used a mix of drones and rockets a tuber 18th to separate Drone Attacks<\/a> against the u. S. And Coalition Forces<\/a> stationed at the alassad base in western iraq. And help us understand the real threat to these American Forces<\/a> and why being there is so important. Of course the u. S. Is not just a Global Leader<\/a> but major stabilizing force in the middle east. Certainly we have vital Security Entrance<\/a> and continue free flow in the region. We have been a long time alley of the dishonest as an economic necessity for Western Europe<\/a> for japan and to some extent. And were committed to the one Democracy In The Middle East<\/a> israel. For standing behind their security. So these are vital u. S. National security interest. And we do think that its important for us to underscore that the uranium to have a lot to lose if this war went high intensity. If the u. S. Naval power and u. S. Air force par, which turned against iran it would turn to another disaster for the economy. So i think that there are some fortunately Wrist Draining<\/a> influences on iranian actions. But what they do is they fight through proxies. The focus has remained on israel. How do we ensure the security of israel or on the edge of a major conflict. And i dont think the israelis have an option to go in on the ground to try and find hostages and eliminate the extent they can that hamas, political and military leadership. I think its likely that were gonna see hezbollah up the ante and to some extent try to draw the israelis intention on. The israelis have three divisions now facing lebanon. So the places a tinderbox. I think Secretary Blinken<\/a> and austin are trying to keep cool heads and make sure that this doesnt escalate. And you cant look at this in any way shape or form an installation. And they certainly didnt, in doing these strikes. So give us a look behind the curtains. What kind of intelligence gathering is needed by the u. S. Before moving forward with a strike like this . You mean the United States<\/a> and the u. S. Knows where the attacks are coming from and you can tell that the talented strikes. Theres been a few of these off the years. It just happens to be in the middle of a subpoena. Like i, said this i. S. I. S. , for the i. S. I. S. Combat engagement, whatever its called now is nonstop and so it will pair up to get these announcements from Central Command<\/a> and theres been another raid. Theres been such a specific target, or rocket that was launched and it was in baghdad. And a couple of years later, there was a retaliatory strike. So the u. S. Keeps tabs on all of this. The bigger intelligence worry is to what hes saying, and the larger regional civility questions. The universe is, lost weve known all of this. This is the most complicated web in the world where israel was on the verge of making and extending the abortion to more deals with their neighbors that were enemies in the last few decades. And all of thats been put on hold. The iran deal they have been not very successful but some glimmer of negotiation, in hopes that the u. S. Could find its way back is a diplomat future was the run. Its a lot of geopolitical intelligence questions that i think are awarding people more than what they had no. We have more tax, come there would be similar to this. And then where attacks come from from specific basis where troops are more vulnerable. And the last thing that anybody wants to see our american troops killed by iranian rockets that would require more italy shuns and a spiral that nobody wants. Thank you so much for joining. Me the retired four star u. S. Army general and kevin bacon notorious director for political live with an expertise in the field. Of defense, National Security<\/a> and Foreign Affairs<\/a>. Thank you guys. Appreciated. And, after the break were also following the major manhunt didnt mean for the suspect in last night shooting. Weve got the latest on the search, coming up. It helps keep me undetectable. 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This Attack Strikes<\/a> at the very heart of who we are and the values we hold dear for this precious place we call home. This city did not deserve this terrible assault on its citizens, its peace of mind, on its sense of security. No city does. No state. No people. As Police Continue<\/a> their search for the killer and more americans are asking themselves, can we finally do something about the root of the problem, the question remains, are every day tragedies like this going to continue to be normal . Joining me now, former Seattle Police<\/a> chief carmen bass, now an msnbc Law Enforcement<\/a> analyst. Two former fbi agents join us as well. Is a supervisory Special Agent<\/a>. Rubber meco, our tires Special Agent<\/a> who served on the hostage rescue team. Thank you all for being here. Rob, its unclear, completely unclear from everything weve heard from officials where this suspect might be, but the communities and lewiston and near that area are sheltered in place. You have a big man hunt. So tell me what theyre doing right now and what the most important thing is that they can do to try and track this guy down. Right now, the biggest thing is to try and determine when he left that white subaru did he get in another vehicle or did he go on foot. Or theres actually a third possibility. It was by a boat ramp, he has some vote experience. Because, if hes in a vehicle, that search zone and goes so much bigger as opposed to if he went on ground. And, then theyre looking, and if he wanted to both, there are so many different things, but its more restrictive. So theyre really trying to determine how he got out of that area, was it preplanned, did he have a second vehicle there, did he know vehicles that they left their keys, in Something Like<\/a> in pennsylvania escape thing when they got in a vehicle that had keys, so thats the key, but they also have to determine if they had on foot. I think part of it is interviewing the family. Hes gone through his mind about this whole scenario, the ending included, so somethings plan for him to go. I would be looking at does the have a favorite campsite to go to, i can place to go to where he maybe hold up. Carmen, there was a large Law Enforcement<\/a> presence at the home in public records show its believed to be connected to robert card. The manhunt, as weve said, huge, ongoing, at the hour that i last checked, they said they had 350 officers actively searching. Talk to us from a Police Perspective<\/a> what theyre doing right now. While theyre searching for every piece of evidence that they can that might lead them to this persons whereabouts. Theyre going to be looking at any computers, laptops, paperwork thats in that home, any evidence of weapons and weaponry registrations. Anything that can, but even names of friends or other people they may be able to contact later on to help ascertain where obviously, they have to proceed with extreme caution, and he had a job, so to speak, so it couldve been things like that. So theyre gonna go slow, methodically through the home to find out if there is anything that they can get that might help understand where he is. And as ive mentioned before, there may be a certain place on the property or hiding place or Something Like<\/a> that, so they just want to make sure they check everything for his whereabouts, and any clue to his whereabouts. So carl, i was thinking about the philadelphia escapee, right . He escaped from prison, he was on the run for a couple of weeks. He actually broke into somebodys garage, stole a weapon, and they eventually got him, and nobody was hurt. But this is a whole different kind of challenge for them. This is somebody who has tactical training. This is somebody who taught other people how to shoot weapons, and in fact, people who took training from him who are reservists say he was very smart and very tactical, how does that change the game . Well chris, every Law Enforcement<\/a> officer thats working on this case is out there tonight searching and putting their life at risk. Robert card clearly has a high level of training. Its very evident looking at that picture, how easily not gone, he looks like he knows how to handle that weapon. And the fact that hes a Firearms Instructor<\/a> means that he was able to pass all sorts of firearms qualifications, so hes a good shot. And he also understands tactics. He knows how to move. He knows how to use cover. Shoot from different positions. The other thing is that hes gotta understand military tactics. So he may very well understand how to set up an ambush. Maine is very thickly wooded, and as i understand, he grew up in that area. So hes on his home turf. That gives him an advantage. Hes gonna know the best hiding places. And if you look at the philadelphia case that you mentioned, that guy had nothing with him initially and he was still able to hide out in two weeks. Robert card, on the other hand, looks like he was fully prepared. So i think theres a lot of things that are going to play out here, weather turns out he was in the woods or if he broke an dissemblance home. Whats interesting is that there have been no sightings of him whatsoever in the last two days. So it makes me wonder to Roberts Point<\/a> if he was able to get home in another vehicle and leave the area, or has he hunkered down somewhere . Is he planted . Smart hiding during the day, maybe moving at night. And a third possibility, which ive seen on some manhunts, is he couldve shot himself. We found manhunts where people have killed themselves and their bodies are found for quite some time. If we go back, if we can, rob, to the philly case, camps were key. We talked about not being able to spot anybody, but those doorbell cameras were critical in figuring out where he might be, narrowing the search area, then you can start to do a grid search. I mean, right now the grid the entire inside of maine. And only 1. 3 Million People<\/a> who live there. So the fact that he has that enormous rural area, which he may be very familiar with, and again, we dont know if there was a boat or something waiting for him since he left his car at the dock. How big is the search area right now . And how do you narrow it down with a lack of cameras in the way that there would be in a more suburban or urban environment . Yes, so the big thing is, again, determining if he got a vehicle. That just spreads out that area. So then youre gonna have to look for a clue. Now, you have technology, i would actually very sparsely populated area because you can use technology, you can use helicopters with thermal imagery. And other things like that to get his location at a safe distance. And then you can set up tactics to surround him and restrict his movement. The big thing is, where do you start . You cant search an entire state with a helicopter, or if you get it down to a certain area, and you think hes moving at night when other people are moving, its a lot easier to spot. Its getting that first clue, like you said, those ring cameras were great. Here, the houses are so far off, and hes not gonna go off into an area right in front of a door unless he goes into a cabinet, it may not have it. And also, we probably watched that man hunt, and he knows what cameras did for that on, so i guarantee its gonna be a lot tougher and youve got to get that first clue. Right now, theyre doing in broad areas and trying to get that lucky clue. So carmen, theres a couple things we havent talked, about ones exhaustion, the longer this goes, on . Right hes exhausted, but then i would assume also the searchers, theres a lot of strain on this community. This is a very tightknit community. Many of the people who work on this search are members of that community. And the fact that you have a suspect who has a history of mental illness. So how did those things play into it . Yeah, absolutely, chris. As a chief, thats one of the things i was always worried about, was the making sure that we had fresh eyes, fresh people. Everyone has to be on high alert, you cant have people tired out here trying to search. So they need to be staying coordinated in that regard, that there is a clean hand over, if you will. So theres another person to get some rest and go through to the next day. As you know, its all Hands On Deck<\/a> where you have to start rationing out resources so they can be fresh to do a good job. Clearly, we dont know how this is going to be in, and we dont want on anybodys part to affect it. And also, the lockdown like this already for over a day, and we dont know how many days its going to last. It has an effect on the community as well so we have to remind them to stay resistant im Chris Jinxing At<\/a> and made, strong, until we can some of the, sea worlds find this headquarters. Person. Thats the other question, right, as we continue our live everything is shut down businesses shut down, i was reading the local people tonight, and were talking about how the streets were empty and how eerie it is so thats a consideration. The longer this goes on, does history tell us, does experience tell you the longer it goes on, the harder it is to find him. Or how this timing play into this . So this can go on a very long time. Historically, theres been some manhunts that have taken a long time, eric rudolph, the infamous olympic bomber from atlanta back in 96. It took many months to capture him. So he was hiding in the woods in northern carolina, and in that case, we got a lucky break. There was a Patrol Officer<\/a> that was out at night and saw a Guy Dumpster Diving<\/a> and stop the guy and it turned out it was eric rudolph. So everybody just needs to keep their head on so including the public. I also think that the boston bombing, their surviving terrace and the boston bombing he was found because he walked down and somebody notice that the color on their boat had been pulled. Off and he went out to take a look, and saw some bloody handprints on, that he took a quick peek inside and thats when he saw him and called 911. To hopefully the public is keeping their eyes out for anything that suspicious. Obviously we want them to be safe and heeding the police wanting to stay home. But obviously if they see something they need to call 911. Yes i covered that bombing and one of the things i remember very vividly is for all the technology and manpower, in the, and it was that one alert citizen who changed the trajectory of everything. Carl, shelley carmen, rob, thank you very much for staying up late with. Us appreciate it. And with those main communities on edge ill be talking with a local journalist about the impact, the violence and now the man hunt is having on the state that he has covered for years. Ill be right back. Attention hearing loss sufferers do you struggle to hear loved ones . Do you have trouble keeping up with conversations . Do you listen to tv on max volume . Hearing loss makes you miss out on important moments. You feel alone. Start hearing better today, with rcas all new micro hearing aids. 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Hundreds of local state and federal Law Enforcement<\/a> officials continue to hunt for the man suspected of killing 18 people and wounding 13 more. Tonight, police did Serve Search Warrants<\/a> and called out robert cards name outside a family home. They stayed there for hours. But he remains on the run. Joining me now john criscos, anchor at tv in portland, maine, he has been reporting live from lewistown all day. First, let me say how sorry i am that you and your community are going through this. And whenever you report on a terrible situation like this, and its where you live as well, there are things that stick with you, stories that people tell you. Whats yours today . When i think it really is the story, chris, of a man who was in the Bowling Alley<\/a> where the shooting happened, and he was there, he loved double, he loved toable with his wife. And he actually organized a lead for children, and thats what was happening there. There were children there bowling we. He was shot and killed by the. Suspect he died trying to save the lives of the children who were in there in that Bowling Alley<\/a>. The children he bought into the Bowling Alley<\/a>. He organized this and was trying to save their lives. He died in that process. The people who i talk to who knew him talking about what a warm soul he was, what a generous person, how loving he was. And they cant imagine that this would happen to him. And all of them as they were gathering for a night, again, chris, children, bullying as the suspect came in and started shooting people. And what they were doing inside to try to save their own lives, they were another mantle as he was running down the bowling lane and hiding in the pins and getting up into the mechanism that is used we know so the stories from inside, those were the stories that will stick with us for a lifetime. Our heart breaks for everyone in that community, and john greco, thank you so much for staying up and sharing with us those stories. I think its so important. For people to understand what really happened we. Im Chris Jansing<\/a> in new york. The coverage continues after a break. Fter a break. There is a better way to manage diabetes. The dexcom g7 continuous Glucose Monitoring<\/a> system eliminates painful finger sticks, helps lower a1c, and its covered by medicare. Before using the dexcom g7, i was really frustrated. All of that Finger Pricking<\/a> and all that pain, my a1c was still stuck. Before dexcom g7, i couldnt enjoy a single meal. I was always trying to outguess my glucose, and it was awful. 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