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MSNBCW The July 4, 2024

Districts. In the, and trump racked and todays conventions after winning the states primary earlier this week. In missouri, nbc news projects on the trump the winner of the republican caucuses running of all the states 54 delegates. Overnight a, hode trump won 32 delegates that were all up for grabs. As for, trumpy is not in any of the states today, hes instead in the stump in virginia and North Carolina. Clearly feeling the momentum ahead of Super Tuesday. Over the past few weeks, weve been on a rocket to the republican nomination. Its been a rocket. Now, let us not forget about nikki haley. Her campaign also in North Carolina today, stumping ahead of Super Tuesday, despite todays outcomes in missouri and michigan, haley vows to keep charging ahead, despite failing to win a single Primary Contest thus far. Now is the time we need a new generational leader, that can put in eight years, day and night, fixing the things we need fixed, with no negativity, no drama, no vendettas, just real results for the American People. But joining me now, shaquille brewster, nbc correspondent. He is live in grand rapids, michigan for us. Shaq, its good to see you again. So the caucus in michigan was complicated, chaotic, messy. Explain to our viewers what exactly happened there. Well look, it was complicated and messy for two different reasons. For one, the process was going to be confusing, and thats because michigan had a primary on tuesday, but they also had this convention. 39 of michigans 55 delegates for the republican nomination were going to be allocated this weekend at the convention. So because they had this hybrid process, that inevitably was going to be somewhat confusing. Donald trump, winning the overwhelming share of those delegates. But it was also confusing, because there is a real divide in michigans state Republican Party, a divide that really wasnt settled until the past couple of days. There were two different people claiming to be the gop chair. There are two different conventions that were supposed to happen in two different cities for today. That was until a judge earlier this week stepped in and declared that is the actual correct chair of the Michigan Republican party. I asked him about that divide heading into november, and what that means, and what that could mean. Listen to what he told me. And, clearly there is going to be some division. And, there is going to be some hurt feelings. But, those are starting to fall back. And people are going to start now saying okay, well we want to win in november. Thats what Political Parties do. They help candidates a their elections. And thats what we will be focused on. But his message, despite the Court Battles, despite the rivaling conventions, he believes that Michigan Republicans will be unified. And if you at least look at the results, in the Delegate Poll that donald trump has earned from today, and from tuesdays primary, you can see that this Republican Party here is really united behind donald trump. All right, shaq brewster, live for us in michigan. Good to see you as always my friend. The Battleground State of michigan will be one to watch this november, for several reasons. During tuesday nights democratic primary, more than 100,000 michiganders sent a message to President Biden, casting an uncommitted vote in protest of his administrations handling of israels war on gaza. A reminder, in 2020, biden won michigan by fewer than 150,000 votes, while he still won tuesday nights primary, the uncommitted movement does not stop with michigan. And it will not, until biden shows that he here is the message being sent. As joe nichols puts it in the nation, the message was blunt. Bidens presidency could hang in the balance, if he does not Pay Attention to voters he needs in november. Joining me now to discuss this is Academy Award winning filmmaker michael moore, he is also part of the group listened to michigan, which helped organize the uncommitted push. Michael its great to see you again, thank you so much for making time for us. Earlier this week, you said would is participating in is something that is killing civilians, and children. More than 30,000 palestinians have now been killed in this ongoing war. At this point, does the president stand a chance of winning some of, those or any of those uncommitted voters. Would calling for a ceasefire at this moment be enough . No. But, it would go a long way. I cant speak for everybody who voted, obviously. We organized this campaign, listen to michigan, mister president , please. We organized this in less than three weeks. So, this is the most amazing thing to have happened. Over 100,000 michiganders, democrats, i would say the vast majority of whom voted for biden in 2020. To come out and vote, uncommitted, to send that message to the president that not only must there be a cease fire now, but we must stop, as Senator Sanders said earlier today, we must stop sending, we shouldnt send another, nicholas what he said, in bombs, guns, planes, bullets, to israel, until they stopped this madness. And i think that that is how people felt, going to the polls on tuesday, or that we needed to send a strong message. Now for people listening to those who think oh, why are we throwing the election to trump. I dont know, honest, one thing i think i feel safe saying is that those who voted uncommitted on tuesday are not going to vote for trump. My fear, and the reason why those of us started this campaign, is to basically save biden from himself. Because of what hes done, to support this massacre, to fund it, to be the banker for israel in the slaughter of these people. That, he is essentially guaranteeing that thousands and thousands of americans are going to stay home and not vote on an election day. Because theyre not going to vote for trump. And this is how trump could win, because those, those hundred and 50,000 that he won by in 2020, hillary lost michigan by just 11,000 votes. Thats two votes, on average two votes her precinct in michigan, thats it. Thats how close this could be. And to have 100,000 plus come out on tuesday and say you know what, our conscience will not allow us to support this. And, if people say well, so does your conscious allow you to let trump win . No, no. What it means, actually to me personally, is that now ive got to double and quadruple my efforts to make sure trump loses. Because biden is working against me. Biden is working against the democrats. The democrats in michigan, first of all, 75 of the people in michigan, according to the last poll i saw, are, they want a ceasefire, and want the massacre to stop. Thats republicans, and democrats. So. The fact that joe biden isnt listening to the people, its a sad thing. Its going to hurt him, if he doesnt change, and change now. And going on tv a couple of days before the primary, with seth meyers, poor seth. Stuck with the ice cream cone, with biden. And, when biden promised that there would be a ceasefire by this monday. I just, from your reporting here on msnbc, that doesnt sound like thats going to happen. And so, you know, what do we, who dont want trump back in here do at this point . Because, and again i cant speak on behalf of the arab and Muslim Americans in michigan, who voted. But ive heard from enough of them, and ive heard from enough young people of all ethnicities and races, and genders. Young people hate war, mainly because theyre the ones sent to war, to die in those wars. Can i ask you about that real quick though. Can i ask you. You bring up a really important point that i want to ask you about. Because, how broad is this coalition . There is this perception, certainly some in the Mainstream Media are trying to portray this as an Arab American thing, or a Muslim American thing. No. Saying hey, the guy on the other side wants to deport you. You are a part of this, you tell us, how broad is this coalition that is behind this uncommitted vote . Who is it . Listen, im, im going to tell tales out of school here. Those of us who were involved and helped organized and promote this on tuesday, the listen to michigan campaign, we were hoping to get maybe 10 to 15,000 votes, that was it. A few people, the optimists, thought maybe 30,000. The fact that it was over 100,000 means it was it wasnt just the 9000 people in dearborn, or the other arab cities in michigan, which have an Arab American mayor, and an arab American City council. No, this was, of course it was muslims, it was Arab Americans. But it was also vast, vast numbers of young people, who just said thats, it im out, im not going to vote for trump, but im out of this. If this guy is going to continue the war, if he is going to continue to embrace netanyahu, i will not participate in this. And so you had young people, you had progressives, you had all kinds of democrats, as i said, the vast majority of democrats in all of the polls are against Biden Funding and arming this war. So, why wouldnt biden listen to this . He wouldnt even acknowledge it, when he won the primary. And thanking the people of michigan, he just ignored the hundred thousand people. If, as Michelle Goldberg said in the New York Times last friday, if he loses michigan, he loses the election. Why would you risk that, President Biden . Why . Why, this is what we need this is, what you should do is the moral thing, which is stop the carpet bombing, stop the slaughter, make sure aid comes in. Dont be dropping aid with parachutes like it was some kind of looney tunes cartoon. You know, youve got 2 Million People starving to death, and you are dropping a few hundred parachutes. Is that a joke . Is that like your ice cream announcing were going to have a ceasefire by monday . This is not funny. This is not a joke. And the young people of michigan, the people of color in michigan. I mean, in michigan we have what, 13, 14 black cities, majority black cities. Detroit, flint, saginaw, pontiac. These are African American cities. They dont support this. Its, but they support biden, i support biden. We voted for biden, we want to vote for him again. And, but a lot of people, and this is what i was saying about our friends in the detroit area, who are palestinian. Who have Family Members who have died in these last, almost five months. Family members that have been killed by their in dearborn, and detroit, they are tax dollars. They helped to fund the slaughter of their of their, cousins their nieces, and im just asking anybody whos watching this right, now whos not, air not muslim, if you discovered that the united states, your country funded, and carried out, through the production of these arms that are given to israel, carried out the slaughter of your grandparents. Tell me what you would do. Tell me how would you vote, or would you maybe not vote at all, and just sit it out because you are so upset, so disgusted, with the murder of innocent civilians, two thirds of whom are children and women and elderly. You know, i mean these are real people, detroiters, who have lost hundreds of people, who have lost, or have wounded Family Members, or who are starving to death right now in gaza. Where would, just asking you, fellow white people, what would you do . What would you do . And why is there even, why is there an open air prison called gaza, for 15 years . You know, when people are in prison, this cause theyve committed a crime. Can somebody right now tell me what the crime is that the Palestinian People, as a group of people, have committed . What is the crime . Because according to my knowledge of history, the enemies of israel, who have been persecuting the israelis, the jewish people of this world who have been persecuted for 5000 years. But for the last 2000 years, most of the ecution has come from white, european centric, christians thats been your enemy. Not no palestinian help to build auschwitz, no Palestinian State on the docks of new york city, when boatloads of jewish refugees tried to escape the holocaust, came here, to be protected by this country, and were turned away from the docks in york, and sent back to germany to die. No palestinian did, that no palestinian ran the spanish inquisition. Your enemy, your enemy is not the Palestinian People. It is White Christian european people, who have been Slaughtering Jews for the last 2000 years. And lets just call it for what it is. Why are they in an open air prison . Why are 2 million of them in an open air prison . And im sorry to go on so long, but her uncles unhappy. Im sensing an underlying issue. Its tmobile. It started when we got him under a new plan. But then they unexpectedly unraveled their price lock guarantee. Which has made him, a bit. Unruly. You called yourself the uncarrier. You sing about price lock on those commercials. The price lock, the price lock. So, if you could change the price, change the name its not a lock, i know a lock. So how can we undo the damage . We could all unsubscribe and switch to xfinity. Their connection is unreal. And we could all unexperience this whole session. Okay, thats uncalled for. All right, back with todays republican caucuses, and conventions in michigan, missouri and idaho. Because Super Tuesday is our next stop on the road to november. With me now, democratic strategist who was in advisor to the obama campaign. She is now a host at sirius xm. And jennifer former chair of the New Hampshire Republican Party, and cofounder of the lincoln project, ladies its great how both of you with. Us jennifer, how significant are todays caucus results in your, eyes especially when it comes to momentum ahead of Super Tuesday . Well, what these results show is less momentum, and more just a continuation of whats been happening from day one. So many of us have said its not just me, the nomination belonged to donald trump before the first primary took place. And what we saw in michigan today. I mean, nikki haley, barely over 2 . And we know there is more action coming on tuesday. But, there is simply no path for anyone other than donald trump. I think the question, the more significant question is, what do the results of Super Tuesday, and the fact that donald trump is going to be the nominee, how does that bode for the, people and how does that bode for and in both cases i would say not. Well and michelle, what, if anything, to democrats take away from today, as they face did this inevitable second matchup between donald trump and joe biden . Well, this honestly was the matchup that the Biden Campaign actually wanted to have. So i think that this showcases that trump is still the commander of the Republican Party, not that thats a surprise to anyone. But for joe biden, it also shows that michigan is still competitive. I dont think there is ever thought that it wasnt, but in particular as it relates to what we just heard from michael moore, your previous segment, i think that the coalition that has been built against what we are seeing happening in gaza right, now is a very vocal and expansive coalition. And to be able to really win in a place like michigan, and to remain competitive in that race, he is going to have to find a way to break away that coalition, showcase that there are some restrictions that need to be applied to the funding that israel has received from the united states. And i think he is going to have to make his call outs against what netanyahu is doing, and what the idf is doing, a lot stronger. Jennifer, nikki haley said that she is fighting for Super Tuesday. And with trump continuing to sweep up delegates today, what is the end goal here for the Haley Campaign . What more does she need to be convinced that she does not have a chance to win this republican nomination . Well, i came to the conclusion that its not her goal, at this point, to get the nomination. And she knows that. Nikki haley absolutely knows where she stands on this. She knows what the numbers are. I would suggest that there are two pieces to this for nikki haley. The first is, if by some act of god, the gop decided to abandon trump as their nominee, say at the convention, for any reason. And i believe that there is a 0 chance of that happening, no matter what happens with trump, the party is going to stay with them. But she is certainly position as being the person who stayed in, and made the argument, and could be the person that gets some of that. Although if you think about the fact that the party wants trump as badly as he does, they are not just going to turn around and hand the nomination to someone like nikki haley, who has been fighting against him. Frankly, i think that nikki haley and chris sununu, and a few other folks who are involved in his campaign, are looking very carefully at 2028. I think that they are looking at trying to build a coalition for the party, that 30 to build on, where they can build something going forward, when the 2028 cycle comes around. And, as the former Campaign Advisor yourself, what would you be saying to nikki haley tonight, if you worked for her from a campaign perspective. Is there any reason for to stay in this contest . The only reason nikki haley is in this contest as because she was hoping originally that one of those, one o

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